"Dragon Ball XENOVERSE 2" Official Discussion Thread

[Nia]

I'd rather see some small free updates instead and have them put their efforts into XV3 and making it a far better game, rather than wasting time and resources on just Xenoverse1.5.

Consider this: isn't it reasonable to think the current updates to Xenoverse 2 are meant to be testing the waters for new mechanics and what-not for Xenoverse 3? Isn't it better to test such an aspect in a game that's already out than to potentially add in something that would damage the sequel because they were unsure of it?

[dualist]

New Video from Burcol has some speculation of possible future dlc:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHkb8JD5FQI&t=634s

I really hope the TP Medals thing is not the case. I want some more DLC. If we got 2 more extra packs, i would want, Baby Vegeta, Uub/Majuub, Pikkon, Bergamo, Lavenda, Basil, Kafla, and Toppo.

And since i’m starting to believe that XV3 isn’t the next game, i want all the support we can get

I'd be quite surprised if they didn't make an XV3 when the series is the most successful DB game. I'm happy to see additions to XV2, and that doesn't mean that they aren't working on XV3. The next installment needs originality, so I wouldn't rather them add established characters as DLC now, and focus on the story and gameplay for the next installment.

[Scsigs]

I'd rather see some small free updates instead and have them put their efforts into XV3 and making it a far better game, rather than wasting time and resources on just Xenoverse1.5.

And gauge reviews & reactions to the game to note what still needs further tweaking. Xenoverse 2 is what should've been the first game, though with the first game's story, but it still needs further refinements.

I dont get how people can say that. Thats like saying Tenkaichi 2 is what Tenkachi 1 should have been. You can’t say that a first game should have been it’s sequel because its the FIRST GAME. A first game can’t be compared to a sequel in terms of saying that the game should have been like it because the the first game’s job is to be the base of the franchise.

Considering many are calling Xenoverse 2 Xenoverse 1.5, I majorly disagree. Given that there were some MAJOR missed opportunities in Xenoverse 1's design that weren't made better in patches, I'd say that Xenoverse 2 is EXACTLY what 1 should've been. A major chunk of the story is the same with only minor differences, the combat's the same, but refined a bit (& that's what I could say about everything in the game), & I got through it a lot easier than the first. I'm not saying that everything they made better in the sequel should've been there, but just the base tweaks should've been in the first game. Often times a LOT of video game sequels feel that way; Uncharted 2, Budokai 2, Watch_Dogs 2, Super Smash Bros Melee, Assassin's Creed II, Legacy of Goku II...& I'm betting that I'm not the only one to say that. Games that ship pretty barren also get that effect, but that's not what I'm talking about here. It's even worse if they're released on the same systems as each other, when it proves that the system has that capabilities to do them, or if they're rereleases that don't do much but add in some minor elements from the sequels to make the experience better. I mean, Kingdom Heart 1 got a bit of a control overhaul for the Final Mix version that make it more like Kingdom Hearts II in its controls & Uncharted 1 got some minor control tweaks for its PS4 rerelease to make IT more like its sequel, so even developers can admit when a design choice from a later game would be good for the earlier game.
It's not just video games either. Movies, TV shows, music...I could list a LOT of those that I feel are what their predecessors should've been. It's where the trope Even Better Sequel comes from.

[nato25]

And gauge reviews & reactions to the game to note what still needs further tweaking. Xenoverse 2 is what should've been the first game, though with the first game's story, but it still needs further refinements.

I dont get how people can say that. Thats like saying Tenkaichi 2 is what Tenkachi 1 should have been. You can’t say that a first game should have been it’s sequel because its the FIRST GAME. A first game can’t be compared to a sequel in terms of saying that the game should have been like it because the the first game’s job is to be the base of the franchise.

Considering many are calling Xenoverse 2 Xenoverse 1.5, I majorly disagree. Given that there were some MAJOR missed opportunities in Xenoverse 1's design that weren't made better in patches, I'd say that Xenoverse 2 is EXACTLY what 1 should've been. A major chunk of the story is the same with only minor differences, the combat's the same, but refined a bit (& that's what I could say about everything in the game), & I got through it a lot easier than the first. I'm not saying that everything they made better in the sequel should've been there, but just the base tweaks should've been in the first game. Often times a LOT of video game sequels feel that way; Uncharted 2, Budokai 2, Watch_Dogs 2, Super Smash Bros Melee, Assassin's Creed II, Legacy of Goku II...& I'm betting that I'm not the only one to say that. Games that ship pretty barren also get that effect, but that's not what I'm talking about here. It's even worse if they're released on the same systems as each other, when it proves that the system has that capabilities to do them, or if they're rereleases that don't do much but add in some minor elements from the sequels to make the experience better. I mean, Kingdom Heart 1 got a bit of a control overhaul for the Final Mix version that make it more like Kingdom Hearts II in its controls & Uncharted 1 got some minor control tweaks for its PS4 rerelease to make IT more like its sequel, so even developers can admit when a design choice from a later game would be good for the earlier game.
It's not just video games either. Movies, TV shows, music...I could list a LOT of those that I feel are what their predecessors should've been. It's where the trope Even Better Sequel comes from.

Yeah but it wasnt and you need to consider making a sequel is considerably easier then building a game from the ground up which xv1 had to do whilst also accommodating for the ps3, xbox 360 and for the first time, pc. Without XV1, XV2 would probably be in the same boat as it wouldn't have a foundation to go off.

[Scsigs]

Yeah but it wasn't and you need to consider making a sequel is considerably easier then building a game from the ground up which xv1 had to do whilst also accommodating for the ps3, xbox 360 and for the first time, pc. Without XV1, XV2 would probably be in the same boat as it wouldn't have a foundation to go off.

You're kind of implying that all of its problems were caused by it being on the 360 & PS3 as well as their 8th-gen counterparts, which in all honesty it really shouldn't have been because it came out in 2015, but I call bullshit. Many games that were made for both manage to be good, since they're made for the 7th-gen consoles & just upscaled in some fashion for the 8th-gen ones (which, I'm wondering why the first game wasn't in 60FPS, or at least got a patch for it, on the later consoles since the second game can do that on a more graphics-intensive software & the later consoles have more capable hardware than their 7th-gen counterparts, but whatever). Hell, even games made available for Backwards Compatibility on Xbox One run better than the 360 without any tweaks. Even on the 6th gen we had more capable action RPGs with the Kingdom Hearts & Final Fantasy games & much more capable fighting games in Budokai 2 & 3 & Dimps made those last 2.

Yeah, they had room for refinement with the first game as a base, not every game series is going to start out perfect. That's what sequels are for. Tell another story & tweak anything that needs fixing while you're at it, but the fast turnaround time for the second game from the first (about a year & a half) shows that they more so wanted to cash in on the success of the first game, which I don't blame them for, rather than wait a longer amount of time to give us a more in-depth sequel. A lot of the storytelling is ripped right out of the first game (with a lot of reused lines & cutscenes, I should mention), just with a new coat of paint the Unreal Engine 4 provided, the combat is the same, but now they give you good tutorials on how to use it, there's a bigger hub world, there's more to do & more to pique your interest, & the RNG isn't as terrible, but Xenoverse 2 is what I expected the experience of the first game to be. I was HOURS into my playthrough of the first game before I started having real trouble with the first game & it never got better until after I looked up things online. When a game doesn't properly point things out to you, or if something's really unintuitive, that's bad design. The sequel fixes a lot of the issues I had with the first that SHOULD'VE been there in the first place.

That's why I say the sequel should've been what the first game was. It does what the first game does, only better in some cases, but it's still the first game, just with some things tweaked, rather than a full-fledged sequel, which is why I'm glad that they're taking at least 2 years to make the third game, but satiating the player base with DLC & free updates, using the "games as a platform" business model really well. That's what DLC was originally meant to be for anyways; something you add on to the base game to keep people coming back after they've played what it has to initially offer, rather than doing something like what Activision or EA does & strip away content from the main game & repackage it, overprice actual DLC, or use microtransactions, to fleece people out of extra money for no good reason (though XV2 let's you buy TP, but that's mainly for those who don't wanna grind that shit, which I understand). XV1 was a decent start, but 2 has some elements that I expected to see in it from the start.

[AnimeNation101]

And gauge reviews & reactions to the game to note what still needs further tweaking. Xenoverse 2 is what should've been the first game, though with the first game's story, but it still needs further refinements.

I dont get how people can say that. Thats like saying Tenkaichi 2 is what Tenkachi 1 should have been. You can’t say that a first game should have been it’s sequel because its the FIRST GAME. A first game can’t be compared to a sequel in terms of saying that the game should have been like it because the the first game’s job is to be the base of the franchise.

Considering many are calling Xenoverse 2 Xenoverse 1.5, I majorly disagree. Given that there were some MAJOR missed opportunities in Xenoverse 1's design that weren't made better in patches, I'd say that Xenoverse 2 is EXACTLY what 1 should've been. A major chunk of the story is the same with only minor differences, the combat's the same, but refined a bit (& that's what I could say about everything in the game), & I got through it a lot easier than the first. I'm not saying that everything they made better in the sequel should've been there, but just the base tweaks should've been in the first game. Often times a LOT of video game sequels feel that way; Uncharted 2, Budokai 2, Watch_Dogs 2, Super Smash Bros Melee, Assassin's Creed II, Legacy of Goku II...& I'm betting that I'm not the only one to say that. Games that ship pretty barren also get that effect, but that's not what I'm talking about here. It's even worse if they're released on the same systems as each other, when it proves that the system has that capabilities to do them, or if they're rereleases that don't do much but add in some minor elements from the sequels to make the experience better. I mean, Kingdom Heart 1 got a bit of a control overhaul for the Final Mix version that make it more like Kingdom Hearts II in its controls & Uncharted 1 got some minor control tweaks for its PS4 rerelease to make IT more like its sequel, so even developers can admit when a design choice from a later game would be good for the earlier game.
It's not just video games either. Movies, TV shows, music...I could list a LOT of those that I feel are what their predecessors should've been. It's where the trope Even Better Sequel comes from.

When people say this, they’re basically saying that just because a sequel is so similar to the first game, the first game should have had the same content as the sequel. Just because something you expected to be in the first game isn’t in but is in the second game doesn’t mean that the first should have been the second. What comes down to it is whether its essential for the game to be classified as complete and able to stand on its own without the sequel’s features.

From what XV1 had, i’d say that it deserves Xenoverse 1 instead of maybe Xenoverse 0.5 because XV1 felt complete and it didn’t need what XV2 had to feel complete. Now, the sequel being incomplete is a different story as i could agree on the under some circumstances.

[nato25]

At the time of my review for xv2 I agree that xv2 doesnt do enough to warrant itself as a full game as its too close content wise to xv1. I probably still agree to that now but the game has a lot more new content now, even a whole new game mode (that i dont care for really). However this is no doubt the better game essentially making the first not worth playing at all unless you specifically want to experience demigra.

[Spider-Man]

I got Xenoverse 2 on PS4 It was an ok game but I'm looking forward to buy Fighterz it looks fun and more polished.

But the game itself wasn't that bad it was fun playing matches with my friend,the visual and music are also good and the voice acting is top-notch.

Ohh and I really like Perfect Cell in this game,Dameon Clarke did a good job voicing him.

[Lord Frieza]

For future DLC I'd like a few more of the GoD along with new fighters. Most have a few moves under their belt from Heroes and the Manga, hell thats were some of Whis, Vados and Champa's attacks come from. Well thanks to Toppo we know have stock moves to hand out.

Destruction Energy - Purple Power Ball.

Destruction Aura - The character is covered in destruction energy protecting them from damage.

To give soem examples

Belmod

God of Destruction's Clever Scheme - His attack from Heroes.

Mini - Destruction - The move used by Toppo to stop Frieza's Death Ball (It just screams Belmod), I picture it a short to mid range move

Generic Melee or Ranged Attack

Maximum Power Charge

Belmod's Trick - Belmod Traps his target (maybe targets if their close enough) in spheres then unleashes a barrage of energy cards

Destruction Energy

Destruction Aura


Liquiir

God of Destruction's Euphoria - A powerful onslaught of homing ki attacks

Liquiir Blade - Ki Blade Attack

Generic Melee or Ranged Attack

Maximum Power Charge

God of Destruction's Bombardment - Liquiir grows extra tails and unleash a barrage of ki blasts, kind of like the Dodoria Launcher (only even cooler)

Destruction Energy

Destruction Aura


Sidra

God of Destruction's Commandment - Powerful Melee Attack

Generic Melee or Ranged Attack

Generic Melee or Ranged Attack

Full Power Charge

Destruction Energy

Full Power Energy Wave

Sidra Barrier - A large barrier that activates instantaneously, protecting Sidra and those near by.

[Zelvin]

The problem with trying to claim that XV2 is better because of the DLC and patches is the fact that, thanks to digital distribution and online connectivity allowing for patches to be made post-release to any game, makes that argument completely pointless. Since the same patches and upgrades to the base game could've been given to the first Xenoverse game post launch. Which only makes XV2 look even more like just an upgraded, or more appropriately, updated version of the first game.

This is the problem with trying to integrate aspects of an MMO. An MMO doesn't make an entirely separate game less than two years after its launch. They just do DLC Expansions to improve the existing game, and those are generally $20 an expansion. Which, along with updates, can change the combat formula and how the game is played. As noted, XV2 did not radically change anything. The existing combat mechanics were improved, but not substantially. It doesn't do enough to actually be a second installment in a series. Especially with how poorly implemented some of the aspects of the game were.

Majin Purification is still a lazy idea and Giant Namekian, after rebalancing, became useless. There were almost no original ideas being added to this installment. And it still doesn't help when the majority of character unlocks are still from the first game. And we still don't get the likes of Demigra as a playable character with an adjusted moveset. Too many of the assets were just ported over with minor tweaks to really earn its place as the 2nd installment.

The third game needs to be able to stand on its own without dangling a load of DLC characters being held hostage. The inclusion of microtransactions for TP medals just indicates how much they're trying to milk whatever player base is left of their money. The Hero Coliseum is literally a mobile game shoved into a console game for the sole sake of making them more money. I wouldn't have had as much problem with it in the game, had it been there from the start and they added the microtransactions later once the community settled. But this was just a blatant cash grab.

[S3 Hendrix]

So it seems fu will be the reason for universe mission happening in heroes and that’s most likely why he’s coming to xenoverse 2 right now, cause the SDBH 10th manga chapter reveals Fu at the end https://imgur.com/gallery/4PwxF

[Phozz]

So it seems fu will be the reason for universe mission happening in heroes and that’s most likely why he’s coming to xenoverse 2 right now, cause the SDBH 10th manga chapter reveals Fu at the end https://imgur.com/gallery/4PwxF

I can't wait for this cool ass looking character!

[Rinsankajugin]

So it seems fu will be the reason for universe mission happening in heroes and that’s most likely why he’s coming to xenoverse 2 right now, cause the SDBH 10th manga chapter reveals Fu at the end https://imgur.com/gallery/4PwxF

I wonder if this means whatever happens in Xenoverse 3 will be more connected to Heroes...

[Kanassa]

So it seems fu will be the reason for universe mission happening in heroes and that’s most likely why he’s coming to xenoverse 2 right now, cause the SDBH 10th manga chapter reveals Fu at the end https://imgur.com/gallery/4PwxF

Is.. Is Trunks getting broken out of prison by Final Form Cooler?

[AnimeNation101]

So it seems fu will be the reason for universe mission happening in heroes and that’s most likely why he’s coming to xenoverse 2 right now, cause the SDBH 10th manga chapter reveals Fu at the end https://imgur.com/gallery/4PwxF

Where the heck can i read this manga

[TheDevilsCorpse]

I should probably mention this here too, but the bits with Fu are not from the story-driven Dark Demon Realm Mission manga, but rather the author's gag-based Ultimate Charisma Mission manga. The contents of those panels probably factor into the upcoming story in the SDBH manga and arcade missions, but may not necessarily represent content from the missions that will be available in the immediate future.

[VegettoEX]

Where the heck can i read this manga

Super Dragon Ball Heroes: Dark Demon Realm Mission is serialized in Saikyo Jump, which is released every-other-month. The March 2018 issue came out today:

https://www.amazon.co.jp/dp/B079236SLQ

The first collected volume was released last May:

http://www.kanzenshuu.com/2017/04/27/su ... e-details/

[ShadowBardock89]

I wish there was a Zenie-TP Medal exchange in the game. I'm stocking up on Zenie and I have nothing to spend it on.

[Gyt Kaliba]

I wish there was a Zenie-TP Medal exchange in the game. I'm stocking up on Zenie and I have nothing to spend it on.

Same, so much the same. I'd even take an outrageously uneven exchange rate at this point, like every 10,000 Zeni gets you like...10 TP medals. Just so there'd be SOMETHING to do with all of it.

Granted I'm at a point now where I don't need the TP medals as much either (unless I finally do dabble in Hero Colosseum again eventually), but I'll probably need more of them once the next pack comes out no doubt.

[Nia]

It seems XV2 got a patch today. No clue what it's for, though.
It's too small to be anything for the upcoming DLC.