Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Innagadadavida · Post by **Innagadadavida** » Wed Apr 29, 2009 4:45 pm

JulieYBM wrote:
Innagadadavida wrote:Who's that girl in the top panel? Is that Bra?
I think it's Vegetto's daughter...maybe not 'Bra', but still...

HAHA! WHAT!? Looks like Bulma is the mommy. That's great. I'm putting five bucks on that she's a super saiyan.

Senzu_Bean · Post by **Senzu_Bean** » Wed Apr 29, 2009 5:15 pm

Dayspring wrote:http://www.dragonball-multiverse.com/en/page-112.html <-New Page.

Badly written. This Cell isn't Super Perfect (ok, whatever), yet Dabura is equally as strong as this Cell. I double-checked the original to see if it was a mistranslation; it's not.

The story takes place 27 years after the Cell Games, so 794 (10 years after the 28th Budokai).

EDIT: Although, you could take it to be a retcon in that Dabura is equal to Boo-saga Dabura, who is weaker than (non-Kanzentai) Cell.

It makes perfectly sense then. Looks like Broly is the only overpowered beast in the fan-manga.

rereboy · Post by **rereboy** » Wed Apr 29, 2009 5:21 pm

Senzu_Bean wrote:
Dayspring wrote:http://www.dragonball-multiverse.com/en/page-112.html <-New Page.

Badly written. This Cell isn't Super Perfect (ok, whatever), yet Dabura is equally as strong as this Cell. I double-checked the original to see if it was a mistranslation; it's not.

The story takes place 27 years after the Cell Games, so 794 (10 years after the 28th Budokai).

EDIT: Although, you could take it to be a retcon in that Dabura is equal to Boo-saga Dabura, who is weaker than (non-Kanzentai) Cell.
It makes perfectly sense then. Looks like Broly is the only overpowered beast in the fan-manga.

It makes sense that Brolly is much more powerfull if he destroyed everything in his universe, allowing his powers to expand exponentially in the process.

Senzu_Bean · Post by **Senzu_Bean** » Wed Apr 29, 2009 5:30 pm

rereboy wrote:
Senzu_Bean wrote:
Dayspring wrote:http://www.dragonball-multiverse.com/en/page-112.html <-New Page.

Badly written. This Cell isn't Super Perfect (ok, whatever), yet Dabura is equally as strong as this Cell. I double-checked the original to see if it was a mistranslation; it's not.

The story takes place 27 years after the Cell Games, so 794 (10 years after the 28th Budokai).

EDIT: Although, you could take it to be a retcon in that Dabura is equal to Boo-saga Dabura, who is weaker than (non-Kanzentai) Cell.
It makes perfectly sense then. Looks like Broly is the only overpowered beast in the fan-manga.
It makes sense that Brolly is much more powerfull if he destroyed everything in his universe, allowing his powers to expand exponentially in the process.

The problem is not Broly destroying the entire universe but how he did destroy it.

Innagadadavida · Post by **Innagadadavida** » Wed Apr 29, 2009 5:34 pm

This site needs a section for character profiles. An easy way to reference the character and see exactly where they came from and what the situation was for them before they entered the tournament.

Y'know, like, "This version of Cell never exploded and became Super Perfect," or "This version of Broly destroyed everything."

It also needs somebody who can translate better.

Senzu_Bean · Post by **Senzu_Bean** » Wed Apr 29, 2009 5:36 pm

I only now read what Vegetto says and basically he is implying Cell had to improve and it is probably holding back. Yeah, Dabura is going to get his ass kicked in the next pages.

rereboy · Post by **rereboy** » Wed Apr 29, 2009 5:37 pm

Yap, Vegetto is implying Cell is holding back.

Wojak · Post by **Wojak** » Wed Apr 29, 2009 5:52 pm

rereboy wrote:
Senzu_Bean wrote:
Dayspring wrote:http://www.dragonball-multiverse.com/en/page-112.html <-New Page.

Badly written. This Cell isn't Super Perfect (ok, whatever), yet Dabura is equally as strong as this Cell. I double-checked the original to see if it was a mistranslation; it's not.

The story takes place 27 years after the Cell Games, so 794 (10 years after the 28th Budokai).

EDIT: Although, you could take it to be a retcon in that Dabura is equal to Boo-saga Dabura, who is weaker than (non-Kanzentai) Cell.
It makes perfectly sense then. Looks like Broly is the only overpowered beast in the fan-manga.

It makes sense that Brolly is much more powerfull if he destroyed everything in his universe, allowing his powers to expand exponentially in the process.

But throwing ki blasts doesn't make you stronger in Dragonball.
Fighting and training does.

FuniYamcha · Post by **FuniYamcha** » Wed Apr 29, 2009 5:56 pm

Well, going back to the unknown girl, she's the same chick from this page:

http://www.dragonball-multiverse.com/en/page-48.html

My only wonder is if Vegetto is truly a pimp and chose both Bulma and ChiChi, since I can't see the Goku part being fine with just knocking up Bulma.

rereboy · Post by **rereboy** » Wed Apr 29, 2009 5:59 pm

Wojak wrote:
rereboy wrote:
Senzu_Bean wrote: It makes perfectly sense then. Looks like Broly is the only overpowered beast in the fan-manga.

It makes sense that Brolly is much more powerfull if he destroyed everything in his universe, allowing his powers to expand exponentially in the process.
But throwing ki blasts doesn't make you stronger in Dragonball.
Fighting and training does.

We can only speculate what Brolly went through as he destroyed his universe and became more powerfull than anything in it.

As far as we know he could have gone through serious hardships that greatly increased his power.

JulieYBM · Post by **JulieYBM** » Wed Apr 29, 2009 6:04 pm

More background info will probably be given in dramatic points throughout the series.

Like...maybe by the end of this fight we'll get a narration as the winner confidently walks away.

SSJ2bardock · Post by **SSJ2bardock** » Wed Apr 29, 2009 6:37 pm

Senzu_Bean wrote: It makes perfectly sense then. Looks like Broly is the only overpowered beast in the fan-manga.

Um, only? Are we forgetting Goku, Vegeta, Gohan, Vegetto, the Super Namek, and others?

rereboy · Post by **rereboy** » Wed Apr 29, 2009 6:58 pm

I think he meant "more powerfull than he should be".

Dayspring · Post by **Dayspring** » Wed Apr 29, 2009 9:14 pm

Innagadadavida wrote:It also needs somebody who can translate better.

I'd volunteer if they asked for someone; I'm completely fluent in French (and obviously English

).

And just to clarify, by "badly written" I meant there's waaaay too much subtext in this page, that some characters are picking up on (Vegetto, Goku) and others aren't (Gohan, maybe Piccolo). Goku's realising that for this gap to exist, Cell should be stronger. In the original French, Vegetto used a double negative ("We all know it's I'mpossible for him to not have gotten any stronger in 27 years.") to confirm Goku's suspicion.

Essentially Cell is pulling a Goku VS Recoom; he manipulates his ki so quickly that nobody can read its true level. All they can tell is that he's the same strength as when he started the Cell Games, which is equals (or is arguably less than) Dabura's strength ("Equal" coming from the original manga and daizenshuu comments about Dabura's srength). EDIT: In light of this, it's possible Cell is stronger than Broly or even Vegetto for all we know.

As for Broly getting stronger, it's Broly. Existing makes him stronger. Even then, this is a multiverse, so we don't need an answer as there's no cause and effect. "How" did he destroy the universe? Simplist answer would be he flew from planet to planet blowing crap up. Given he had 27 years, this isn't unlikely. How did space travel? Same as Baby Broly did in movie 8.

Pain · Post by **Pain** » Wed Apr 29, 2009 9:27 pm

FuniYamcha wrote:Well, going back to the unknown girl, she's the same chick from this page:

http://www.dragonball-multiverse.com/en/page-48.html

My only wonder is if Vegetto is truly a pimp and chose both Bulma and ChiChi, since I can't see the Goku part being fine with just knocking up Bulma.

Dude, that's Bra.

FuniYamcha · Post by **FuniYamcha** » Wed Apr 29, 2009 9:39 pm

I thought Goku was only raising his power so fast that scouters couldn't measure it? Wasn't Vegeta able to sense Goku's rise and decline of power? I would figure that Vegetto would be at least able to sense Cell's power going up and down, since he should be the strongest one there.

Rocketman · Post by **Rocketman** » Wed Apr 29, 2009 9:48 pm

Dayspring wrote:As for Broly getting stronger, it's Broly. Existing makes him stronger.

I think you mean, "it's Broly, the most fucking overrated piece of shit character in all of Dragonball. The vampires in Twilight aren't as fawned over as he is."

I hate Broly more than I hate Gohan.

Dayspring · Post by **Dayspring** » Wed Apr 29, 2009 10:25 pm

FuniYamcha wrote:I thought Goku was only raising his power so fast that scouters couldn't measure it? Wasn't Vegeta able to sense Goku's rise and decline of power? I would figure that Vegetto would be at least able to sense Cell's power going up and down, since he should be the strongest one there.

That just goes to show you how powerful this version of Cell is. But yeah, Vegetto's arrogance implies that he either came to the conclusion immediately or that he can sense Cell's true strength. Regardless, neither Goku, Gohan, nor Piccolo can sense it.

Here's what's being implied by the first two panels:

Goku: Uhhhh...did Cell get stronger and I missed it? Because he should be stronger than what I'm sensing right now. Like, lots stronger.
Gohan: No, no. He's still as weak as ever.
Vegetto (at Gohan): Dumbass.

EDIT:
@Rocketman: ...Yeah, that's a fair statement, actually.

FuniYamcha · Post by **FuniYamcha** » Wed Apr 29, 2009 11:37 pm

Well, it doesn't necessarily mean he's as strong as Vegetto, just that he's stronger than Base Goku, Super Namek Piccolo and Gohan the Father. And Gohan the Father sucks, so I wouldn't count on him to sense a damned thing. And that means a lot coming from me since I like Gohan, but geez, once he starts wearing those glasses, he might as well be any regular human jag-off in the show. Regardless though, it's possible this Cell is very strong, since it's been a lot of time since the Cell Games and I imagine the Goku/Vegeta in him probably made him at least do some training in the 17 years.

Or, we could be looking into this way too much, and it just turns out that Cell is doing what he did to Trunks/Goku/Gohan until he got his ass kicked, where he's hasn't unleashed some of his power in order to have a more entertaining fight.

Dayspring · Post by **Dayspring** » Thu Apr 30, 2009 11:50 am

It would be pretty easy for Cell to become insanely powerful if you think about: Cell creates ??? amount of Cell Jrs. Cell absorbs their vital energy. He's now increased his strength by an amount equal to Cell Games Vegeta x ???. Repeat for 27 years.

What I like about this version if Cell is the possibility. He could be anywhere between Cell Games strength and infinity.

Here's my pics for the final 8: Boo (who absorbed everybody), Namek, Broly, and Vegetto, this Cell (I have a feeling he'll absorb someone strong), our Goku (naturally), Super Saiyan universe Vegeta, our Vegeta.