Eh... while that feels good from just a "neatness" perspective (what would that make Yamu? King Piccolo?), I really don't think it matches the fight with Videl. I say that Spopo gets stomped by any of them, and couldn't even take initial kid Goku. I do still go with Pui Pui = Ozaru Vegeta, Yakon = 100% Freeza, and Dabra = Full Power Perfect Cell, though. I guess the mystery fighters would be on par with 19/20 and King Cold then.
I guess I'd give Spopo a power level of 6 if I had to, same as Yamu, just cause it's around x1.25 above the regular human level of 5. Its the same boost I have the power up giving Vegeta. And the other three guys, as I see no reason for Babidi not to power them up. They appeared stronger than that level would suggest since they apparently actually learned how to use their ki; they can fly and shoot blasts.
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The Monkey King wrote:It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWokeRandomGuy96 wrote:He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.
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I dunno, the only thing I remember Videl doing to him is kick his head really sideways. i guess Spopvich can be around Yamcha's strength in his debut?
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If Super Vegetto and Super Saiyan 4 Goku were near equals, I'd say Vegetto would win. Less energy problems (Super Saiyan 4 cuts down the fusion time) and he's got all of Vegeta's skills to go along with Goku's.
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Yeah. I mean, at one point, I thought it'd be ridiculous to have Spopo less than Ginyu level, but that was so long ago and I was kinda clueless, lol.
He might look tough, but I just don't think he's that strong. Stronger than Mr. Satan and Videl, sure, but not much more than that. I really can't see him putting up a good fight against guys like Tao or Nam.
He might look tough, but I just don't think he's that strong. Stronger than Mr. Satan and Videl, sure, but not much more than that. I really can't see him putting up a good fight against guys like Tao or Nam.
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Imo he gets stomped in all fights.Super Saiyan Turlast x4 wrote:I really would like to see where everyone has Spopo, so:
Spopovich Vs 21st Budokai Goku
Spopovich Vs Nam
Spopovich Vs Tao & Cyborg Tao
Spopovich Vs Roshi (Beginning of Saiyan saga)
Just trying to get a feel for his power. This is the enhanced Spopovich.
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Chiaotzu after training with Kami Vs. Piccolo beginning of DBZ
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Chaozu's more powerful than Piccolo. He'd also have his psychic abilities to stop Piccolo from doing anything. He would likely win, unless Chaozu does something stupid and give Piccolo a chance to use his Makankousappou or something.
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I cannot justify Chiaotzu actually winning. Therefore, Piccolo Clothes Beams a shoe into his lungs.Kid Buu wrote:Chiaotzu after training with Kami Vs. Piccolo beginning of DBZ
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Piccolo's makankōsappō is much stronger than Chaotzu. It would depend on how it played out.
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Piccolo wins. I have Chaoz at 325.Kid Buu wrote:Chiaotzu after training with Kami Vs. Piccolo beginning of DBZ
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The heck?Zombie wrote:Piccolo wins. I have Chaoz at 325.Kid Buu wrote:Chiaotzu after training with Kami Vs. Piccolo beginning of DBZ
Anyway, I'm part of the minority that goes with the Weekly Jump number for 23rd Budokai Goku. So I have Piccolo at that time at 900, enough to one-shot 610 Chiaotzu. Chiaotzu CAN win if he uses his psychic powers to just stop Piccolo's heart, but one, Piccolo can just blitz Chiaotzu, and two, Chiaotzu's stupid.
The Monkey King wrote:It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWokeRandomGuy96 wrote:He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.
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Even using the 910 as Goku's regular battle power, I still think Chaozu wins this. He was able to paralyse Kuririn and cause him pain at the 22nd Budokai, and I think that gap was bigger than this one. So he's paralyse Piccolo and either wait for Piccolo to collapse/die from the pain or speed up the process by kicking him to death.
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Considering Piccolo can regenerate from just his head would stopping his heart really do much?
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Well, he almost died from being shot through the heart (and you're to blame!) by Freeza, so I imagine it'd be more than a minor issue.Polyphase Avatron wrote:Considering Piccolo can regenerate from just his head would stopping his heart really do much?
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Any of the dead Z fighters after training with Kaio vs. Vegeta circa saiyan arc.
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There's not one of them that can lose.Cursed Lemon wrote:Any of the dead Z fighters after training with Kaio vs. Vegeta circa saiyan arc.
The Monkey King wrote:It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWokeRandomGuy96 wrote:He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.
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Even with Oozaru?RandomGuy96 wrote:There's not one of them that can lose.Cursed Lemon wrote:Any of the dead Z fighters after training with Kaio vs. Vegeta circa saiyan arc.
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Even with Oozaru, with my current outlook on the android arc humans power. If not for some lines from Gero and others, however, then I'd say Oozaru Vegeta would be able to splatter them all at the same time.Kid Buu wrote:Even with Oozaru?RandomGuy96 wrote:There's not one of them that can lose.Cursed Lemon wrote:Any of the dead Z fighters after training with Kaio vs. Vegeta circa saiyan arc.
The Monkey King wrote:It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWokeRandomGuy96 wrote:He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.
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What?RandomGuy96 wrote:The heck?Zombie wrote:Piccolo wins. I have Chaoz at 325.Kid Buu wrote:Chiaotzu after training with Kami Vs. Piccolo beginning of DBZ
Anyway, I'm part of the minority that goes with the Weekly Jump number for 23rd Budokai Goku. So I have Piccolo at that time at 900, enough to one-shot 610 Chiaotzu. Chiaotzu CAN win if he uses his psychic powers to just stop Piccolo's heart, but one, Piccolo can just blitz Chiaotzu, and two, Chiaotzu's stupid.
Everyone surpassed Kami, who was around 250 - 300.
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What reason is there to have Chiaotzu so low? What's wrong with the Daiz level here?What?
Everyone surpassed Kami, who was around 250 - 300.
The Monkey King wrote:It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWokeRandomGuy96 wrote:He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.