Psykomatik wrote:There is one more where i can see Tate, but there is so much shading on them, it's so strange...
Tate had 2 months and a half to work on this episode. When he has that amount of time at his disposal, his work tends to be very well polished. Tate is an excelent DB artist. When he wants to, he can draw BETTER than on-model. Buu saga DBZ style.
The obcenely off model work of Tate in the past was more due to lack of time and bad schedule than his style. The thing with Tate is that when it comes to choosing between on-model and fluidity, he will choose fluidity a thousand times and i agree with him.
Hit!! wrote:I really wish Super would air at a different time so we could see this level of violence again..
Hunter x hunter 2011 aired in the morning too, but unlike super it had a lot of blood. With super they are choosing to almost never include blood, it's most likely because the series directors don't want to.
Look at the filler episodes 68-76, this is when Kohei Hatano was the new series director and there was a lot more blood(Krillin getting shot,Beerus vs Champa).
I truly wish they would stop censoring so much it really hurts the series in my opinion.
ArchedThunder wrote:https://twitter.com/truebard/status/873992121471991808
I wish I could understand exactly what he was saying.
Is he saying the show almost has a good schedule? It's so hard to tell with his English.
It seems as though he is saying that, on a good schedule, an episode in production for 2-3 months before it airs. But he also implying that's the standard.
Spoiler:
Akira Toriyama wrote:My policy is to try and forget things once they’re over. Since if I don’t discard the old and focus on what’s new, I’ll overload my brain capacity. I still haven’t lived down going, “Who the heck is Tao Pai-pai?” that one time I was talking with Ei’ichiro Oda-kun. But the fact that there are still people reading the series after all this time… All I can say is; “thank you.” Really, that’s all.
Akira Toriyama wrote:Drawing Dragon Ball again reminded me of two things--how much I love it, and how much I never want to do it again.
Kunzait_83 wrote:And if you're upset because all this new material completely invalidates the tabletop RPG rulebook-sized statistical system and flowchart for the characters' "canonical Power Levels" that you'd been working on painstakingly for the last bunch of years now... well I don't think there's a kind, non-blunt way of saying this, but that's 100% entirely your own misguided fault for buying so deeply into all this nonsensical garbage in the first place. And that you also have IMMENSELY skewed and comically backwards priorities in what you think is most important and needed to make a good Dragon Ball story.
Zephyr wrote:Goodness, they wrote idiotic drivel in a children's cartoon meant to advertise toys!? Again!? For the ninetieth episode in a row!? Somebody stop the presses! We have to voice our concern over these Super important issues!
Kamiccolo9 wrote:Fair enough, I concede. Sean Schemmel probably has some kind of hidden talent. Maybe he is an expert at Minesweeper. You're right; calling him "talentless" wasn't fair.
Michsi wrote: Mon Jul 04, 2022 11:29 amIn Super Piccolo got yelled off the stage by Vegeta in the U6 Tournament arc and lost to Jiminy Cricket in the ToP , he deserved 15 new transformations with his theme song played by Metallica in the background.
iAnimationLover_ wrote:Then how does that make him the troll? You should also watch the episode before you start criticizing shots that arent even that bad, and literally have nothing close to "Horrendous" to them.
First off those shots are posted in the official Twitter account before the initial broadcast, I gave my opinion about them as a whole and second off how could I know this shot would last less than a second on-screen when this one (also posted in the official Twitter) not? So yes, that make him a troll for not analysing the circumstance.
Probably already asked in this thread: but who was the writter of this episode?
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Are we too old to enjoy new Dragon Ball movies/series?
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Nickolaidas wrote: Sun Jun 14, 2015 2:10 am
Guys, I'm going to be straight with you. If you feel the show has gotten 'silly' ... it hasn't. You're just 'too old for this shit'. Seriously, 95% of the people in those boards do not fit the target demographic of the show, so don't expect the show to be 'everything you hoped for'. I'm referring to the people here who expect Super to be rich with dark moments, serious storytelling, meaningful characters etc etc. It won't. It's a show for kids. A show for kids being kids. Everyone in those boards has a manchild in him/her, clamoring to get out, and that's fine. But having unrealistic expectations (such as believing the show grew up alongside you) is naïve at best. Honestly, do you take seriously a story where the supposed God of Destruction halts his urges to blow up stuff in order to eat ice cream sundae? That's the show's silliness at full force, take it for what it is. The show hasn't matured one bit, so don't expect it too. Again, I'm not saying that's a bad thing. I'm saying *that* is DB and always will be.
zamasu121 wrote:
Hunter x hunter 2011 aired in the morning too, but unlike super it had a lot of blood. With super they are choosing to almost never include blood, it's most likely because the series directors don't want to.
Look at the filler episodes 68-76, this is when Kohei Hatano was the new series director and there was a lot more blood(Krillin getting shot,Beerus vs Champa).
I truly wish they would stop censoring so much it really hurts the series in my opinion.
I think it's really bullshit when Frieza literally shoots a guy in his shoulder and not 1 drop of blood comes out. Or when Zamasu stabs Goku and Vegeta multiple times and would have these massive holes in the middle of their stomach, but not one goddamn drop of blood comes out. It has come to a point where it's beyond ridiculous.
Kids are not gonna become more or less violent just because of a freaking cartoon. Kids become more violent because of their parents. I come from a Latin American country where violence is the norm and the most common way of solving things is through violence. Here cartoons get extremely sensored and banned all the time due to supposed "explicit content", and it does not stop kids from growing up violently. It really is fucking pointless. Meanwhile, those same channels air a bunch of "narco-novelas" in morning and day schedules. And these "narco-novelas" show dead mutilated corpses all the time, people getting shot and killed like it's nothing and shows drug dealers as the heroes and role models kids should follow and look up to. But no, the catholic church says that Dragon Ball and Pokemon are evil and satanic, so they get banned and sensored.
Noah wrote:Probably already asked in this thread: but who was the writter of this episode?
Here's who had the main roles of Episode 94:
Writer - Toshio Yoshikata
Director & Storyboard - Masato Mitsuka
Animation Director - Yuichi Karasawa
Spoiler:
Akira Toriyama wrote:My policy is to try and forget things once they’re over. Since if I don’t discard the old and focus on what’s new, I’ll overload my brain capacity. I still haven’t lived down going, “Who the heck is Tao Pai-pai?” that one time I was talking with Ei’ichiro Oda-kun. But the fact that there are still people reading the series after all this time… All I can say is; “thank you.” Really, that’s all.
Akira Toriyama wrote:Drawing Dragon Ball again reminded me of two things--how much I love it, and how much I never want to do it again.
Kunzait_83 wrote:And if you're upset because all this new material completely invalidates the tabletop RPG rulebook-sized statistical system and flowchart for the characters' "canonical Power Levels" that you'd been working on painstakingly for the last bunch of years now... well I don't think there's a kind, non-blunt way of saying this, but that's 100% entirely your own misguided fault for buying so deeply into all this nonsensical garbage in the first place. And that you also have IMMENSELY skewed and comically backwards priorities in what you think is most important and needed to make a good Dragon Ball story.
Zephyr wrote:Goodness, they wrote idiotic drivel in a children's cartoon meant to advertise toys!? Again!? For the ninetieth episode in a row!? Somebody stop the presses! We have to voice our concern over these Super important issues!
Kamiccolo9 wrote:Fair enough, I concede. Sean Schemmel probably has some kind of hidden talent. Maybe he is an expert at Minesweeper. You're right; calling him "talentless" wasn't fair.
Michsi wrote: Mon Jul 04, 2022 11:29 amIn Super Piccolo got yelled off the stage by Vegeta in the U6 Tournament arc and lost to Jiminy Cricket in the ToP , he deserved 15 new transformations with his theme song played by Metallica in the background.
zamasu121 wrote:
Hunter x hunter 2011 aired in the morning too, but unlike super it had a lot of blood. With super they are choosing to almost never include blood, it's most likely because the series directors don't want to.
Look at the filler episodes 68-76, this is when Kohei Hatano was the new series director and there was a lot more blood(Krillin getting shot,Beerus vs Champa).
I truly wish they would stop censoring so much it really hurts the series in my opinion.
I think it's really bullshit when Frieza literally shoots a guy in his shoulder and not 1 drop of blood comes out. Or when Zamasu stabs Goku and Vegeta multiple times and would have these massive holes in the middle of their stomach, but not one goddamn drop of blood comes out. It has come to a point where it's beyond ridiculous.
Kids are not gonna become more or less violent just because of a freaking cartoon. Kids become more violent because of their parents. I come from a Latin American country where violence is the norm and the most common way of solving things is through violence. Here cartoons get extremely sensored and banned all the time due to supposed "explicit content", and it does not stop kids from growing up violently. It really is fucking pointless. Meanwhile, those same channels air a bunch of "narco-novelas" in morning and day schedules. And these "narco-novelas" show dead mutilated corpses all the time, people getting shot and killed like it's nothing and shows drug dealers as the heroes and role models kids should follow and look up to. But no, the catholic church says that Dragon Ball and Pokemon are evil and satanic, so they get banned and sensored.
The fucking hypocrisy makes me sick..
This part annoyed me the most about the future Trunks arc, if this arc would have aired in the 90's it would have been much better.
zamasu121 wrote:
This part annoyed me the most about the future Trunks arc, if this arc would have aired in the 90's it would have been much better.
I think it would be A LOT better if it aired during the evening
I'm sure it would improve the show if it aired in the evening, but they can still put more blood and battle damage in the morning time slot, the best example for this is HxH 2011 which also aired in the morning.
Toei should know Dragon ball, Z, and GT had blood so dismissing it from Super seems like a bad move.
Dragon ball is a violent series, not some kiddy crap. Dragon Ball was full of nude for heaven's sake. It doesn't make sense they'd literally show Roshi chasing a girl which looked like rape and not apply a little drop of blood.
This scene for me was one of the most brutal shit I've ever seen as a kid.
Frieza literally punched Vegeta so much that he coughed up a bucket of blood, and continued to do so for another 1-2 minutes lmao.
HybridSaiyan wrote:Toei should know Dragon ball, Z, and GT had blood so dismissing it from Super seems like a bad move.
Dragon ball is a violent series, not some kiddy crap. Dragon Ball was full of nude for heaven's sake. It doesn't make sense they'd literally show Roshi chasing a girl which looked like rape and not apply a little drop of blood.
episode 75 might be the last episode in which we see a decent amount of blood.
neolux wrote:You can't use say Super being in the morning is the reason the show has no blood. One Piece airs right after DBS and has significant amounts of blood.
Why the internation release is such matter for the lack of bloody scenes? I mean couldn't Toei authorize the companies to do edits if necessary? I mean they didn't gave a f*** about the atrocious 4Kids version of One Piece back then.
Are we too old to enjoy new Dragon Ball movies/series?
Spoiler:
Nickolaidas wrote: Sun Jun 14, 2015 2:10 am
Guys, I'm going to be straight with you. If you feel the show has gotten 'silly' ... it hasn't. You're just 'too old for this shit'. Seriously, 95% of the people in those boards do not fit the target demographic of the show, so don't expect the show to be 'everything you hoped for'. I'm referring to the people here who expect Super to be rich with dark moments, serious storytelling, meaningful characters etc etc. It won't. It's a show for kids. A show for kids being kids. Everyone in those boards has a manchild in him/her, clamoring to get out, and that's fine. But having unrealistic expectations (such as believing the show grew up alongside you) is naïve at best. Honestly, do you take seriously a story where the supposed God of Destruction halts his urges to blow up stuff in order to eat ice cream sundae? That's the show's silliness at full force, take it for what it is. The show hasn't matured one bit, so don't expect it too. Again, I'm not saying that's a bad thing. I'm saying *that* is DB and always will be.
Noah wrote:Why the internation release is such matter for the lack of bloody scenes? I mean couldn't Toei authorize the companies to do edits if necessary? I mean they didn't gave a f*** about the atrocious 4Kids version of One Piece back then.
The show is more appealing to licensees if they don't have to spend money on visual edits.
HybridSaiyan wrote:Toei should know Dragon ball, Z, and GT had blood so dismissing it from Super seems like a bad move.
Dragon ball is a violent series, not some kiddy crap. Dragon Ball was full of nude for heaven's sake. It doesn't make sense they'd literally show Roshi chasing a girl which looked like rape and not apply a little drop of blood.
This scene for me was one of the most brutal shit I've ever seen as a kid.
Frieza literally punched Vegeta so much that he coughed up a bucket of blood, and continued to do so for another 1-2 minutes lmao.
Thats what A-1 did with Fairy Tail(show had a lot of fanservice and yet there was barely any blood), and btw FT anime aired at 9am morning too.
The level of brutality in DBZ was nothing compared to Saint Seiya, the Bronze Saiyans losing tons of blood in every Arc to the point it became ridiculous.
Instead of blood, the new DBS series directors should include more scenes when bones are broken or dislocated(like when Toppo dislocated Gokus arm).
