Super Animation Catalogue 2.0

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 93

Post by zamasu121 » Sun Jun 11, 2017 10:52 pm

It's funny how the bloodiest animes are extremely tame compared to South park.
if you are easily disgusted by animated gore(south park) don't reveal the spoiler.
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 93

Post by Jinzoningen MULE » Sun Jun 11, 2017 10:54 pm

zamasu121 wrote:It's funny how the bloodiest animes are extremely tame compared to South park.
if you are easily disgusted by animated gore(south park) don't reveal the spoiler.
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The shows exist in totally different contexts, and have incomparable productions. I don't get the point. Is your ideal Dragon Ball a weekly, 20 minute gore-fest?
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 93

Post by zamasu121 » Sun Jun 11, 2017 11:04 pm

Jinzoningen MULE wrote:
zamasu121 wrote:It's funny how the bloodiest animes are extremely tame compared to South park.
if you are easily disgusted by animated gore(south park) don't reveal the spoiler.
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The shows exist in totally different contexts, and have incomparable productions. I don't get the point. Is your ideal Dragon Ball a weekly, 20 minute gore-fest?
No, far from it, i don't want gore in dragon ball super, just a little blood and battle damage.

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 93

Post by kinisking » Sun Jun 11, 2017 11:15 pm

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HybridSaiyan wrote:Toei should know Dragon ball, Z, and GT had blood so dismissing it from Super seems like a bad move.
Dragon ball is a violent series, not some kiddy crap. Dragon Ball was full of nude for heaven's sake. It doesn't make sense they'd literally show Roshi chasing a girl which looked like rape and not apply a little drop of blood.
episode 75 might be the last episode in which we see a decent amount of blood. :( :( :(
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Which is funny because the blood there was excessive.
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 93

Post by Nasryyy » Sun Jun 11, 2017 11:47 pm

The blood problem has been discussed at least 5 times on this thread, and here we go again, whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy ?

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 93

Post by Jinzoningen MULE » Sun Jun 11, 2017 11:49 pm

Nasryyy wrote:The blood problem has been discussed at least 5 times on this thread, and here we go again, whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy ?
It does get annoying, doesn't it? Perhaps someone should make a "Complaining About the Lack of Blood" thread.
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 93

Post by Sodhi » Mon Jun 12, 2017 12:36 am

I agree. The show will never have blood like DBZ, no need to discuss this any further.

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 93

Post by Hit!! » Mon Jun 12, 2017 12:37 am

If its so annoying to you then just ignore the comments that have to do with that topic. Easy...

More annoying to me is seing people whine about others not talking about what they want to talk about..

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 93

Post by Sodhi » Mon Jun 12, 2017 12:40 am

There is nothing to discuss though. As I said before it will not have blood like DBZ. It's annoying that after 94 episodes people still dont get it.

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 93

Post by Jinzoningen MULE » Mon Jun 12, 2017 12:43 am

Hit!! wrote:If its so annoying to you then just ignore the comments that have to do with that topic. Easy...

More annoying to me is seeing people whine about others not talking about what they want to talk about..
If the forum worked under that logic, there would be no need for moderators, would there? Meanwhile, neither of us would be here, because this forum would be absolute cancer, and everyone has enough of that on social media. Saying "Ignore what you don't like" isn't particularly compelling when it has frequently taken up far too much room in a thread about animation supervisors and styles.
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 93

Post by Hit!! » Mon Jun 12, 2017 12:45 am

Sodhi wrote:There is nothing to discuss though. As I said before it will not have blood like DBZ. It's annoying that after 94 episodes people still dont get it.
I didn't know it was discussed before...

But even though, just because you don't like people discussing certain topic doesn't mean everybody should stop talking about it just to please you.

Many things have improved in Super, why can't the blood problem improve??

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 93

Post by Nasryyy » Mon Jun 12, 2017 12:49 am

Hit!! wrote:If its so annoying to you then just ignore the comments that have to do with that topic. Easy...

More annoying to me is seing people whine about others not talking about what they want to talk about..
well excuse me cause i think this an animation thread and something like this shouldn't be discussed here, and as i said it's annoying because this problem was talked about more than 5 times here and people like sodhi said doesn't understand that super is not Z it won't have that kind of gore or blood

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 93

Post by Jinzoningen MULE » Mon Jun 12, 2017 12:49 am

Hit!! wrote:Many things have improved in Super, why can't the blood problem improve??
The general lack of blood and gore is not a production problem to begin with. It's in a totally separate vein, so to speak.
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 93

Post by Hit!! » Mon Jun 12, 2017 12:50 am

Jinzoningen MULE wrote:
Hit!! wrote:If its so annoying to you then just ignore the comments that have to do with that topic. Easy...

More annoying to me is seing people whine about others not talking about what they want to talk about..
If the forum worked under that logic, there would be no need for moderators, would there? Meanwhile, neither of us would be here, because this forum would be absolute cancer, and everyone has enough of that on social media. Saying "Ignore what you don't like" isn't particularly compelling when it's frequently taken up far too much room in a thread about animation supervisors and styles.
You twisted my words. I never said that.

Nobody is trolling or disrespecting no one, so i don't see why we should stop discussing whatever we're discussing just because you said so. If it was off topic i would understand, but it's not. It has to do with animation.

Now, about creating a new thread to discuss this issue, that would be a good idea, but saying that we have to stop discussing certain topic just because you don't like it is wrong.

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 93

Post by Gashif Aldi » Mon Jun 12, 2017 1:05 am

Hit!! wrote:
Jinzoningen MULE wrote:
Hit!! wrote:If its so annoying to you then just ignore the comments that have to do with that topic. Easy...

More annoying to me is seing people whine about others not talking about what they want to talk about..
If the forum worked under that logic, there would be no need for moderators, would there? Meanwhile, neither of us would be here, because this forum would be absolute cancer, and everyone has enough of that on social media. Saying "Ignore what you don't like" isn't particularly compelling when it's frequently taken up far too much room in a thread about animation supervisors and styles.
You twisted my words. I never said that.

Nobody is trolling or disrespecting no one, so i don't see why we should stop discussing whatever we're discussing just because you said so. If it was off topic i would understand, but it's not. It has to do with animation.

Now, about creating a new thread to discuss this issue, that would be a good idea, but saying that we have to stop discussing certain topic just because you don't like it is wrong.
It's not animation, it's more of a direction. In episode 89 (where Gohan trained with Piccolo) Piccolo's arm was cut off, there was "white" blood. You can assume that the animators tried to give some blood, but in the end they just follow the direction and color it white. Then it's the Departement of Photography's fault, but it was Nagamine's direction.

This is more of a Series Director thing. Japan and Latin America aren't the same, their highest priority is their own country.
Complaining here is not gonna help, discusing is more of a achieving the same opinion. Changing our opinions would not change anything in the show.
You should make your own thread instead. It's a director thing, the director can just change the filter again easily, the blood can be changed easily, if the SD choses to. So there's your answer.
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 93

Post by Hit!! » Mon Jun 12, 2017 1:18 am

Gashif Aldi wrote:
It's not animation, it's more of a direction. In episode 89 (where Gohan trained with Piccolo) Piccolo's arm was cut off, there was "white" blood. You can assume that the animators tried to give some blood, but in the end they just follow the direction and color it white. Then it's the Departement of Photography's fault, but it was Nagamine's direction.

This is more of a Series Director thing. Japan and Latin America aren't the same, their highest priority is their own country.
Complaining here is not gonna help, discusing is more of a achieving the same opinion. Changing our opinions would not change anything in the show.
You should make your own thread instead. It's a director thing, the director can just change the filter again easily, the blood can be changed easily, if the SD choses to. So there's your answer.
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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 93

Post by Mazingerdestro » Mon Jun 12, 2017 8:06 am

Nasryyy wrote:The blood problem has been discussed at least 5 times on this thread, and here we go again, whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy ?

5? Try 5000

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 93

Post by Avok » Mon Jun 12, 2017 3:30 pm

People on spanish speaking forums are calling the episode one of the best in Super and the transformation as the best so far. I agree with the transformation part. My only complaint is that Goku's hair and clothes dont move, and I would've liked some more effects as in trees moving or earth shaking.

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 93

Post by Araki » Mon Jun 12, 2017 6:33 pm

Gashif Aldi wrote:It's not animation, it's more of a direction. In episode 89 (where Gohan trained with Piccolo) Piccolo's arm was cut off, there was "white" blood. You can assume that the animators tried to give some blood, but in the end they just follow the direction and color it white. Then it's the Departement of Photography's fault, but it was Nagamine's direction.

This is more of a Series Director thing. Japan and Latin America aren't the same, their highest priority is their own country.
Complaining here is not gonna help, discusing is more of a achieving the same opinion. Changing our opinions would not change anything in the show.
You should make your own thread instead. It's a director thing, the director can just change the filter again easily, the blood can be changed easily, if the SD choses to. So there's your answer.
Tatsuya Nagamine head directed the 2nd season of Saint Seiya Omega (well, part of it anyway), where blood was pretty much non-existent, while in the first season, directed by Morio Hatano (Future Trunks arc), there was blood eventually. His One Piece Film Z, if i recall correctly, was also pretty much bloodless, except for subtle moments at the end where it was unavoidable. No blood in Beet the Vandel Buster either. So my short experience with his work says that he doesn't give it much importance.

But yeah, it's definitely a director thing. The level of blood and censorship in One Piece, for instance, saw many shifts through the years that was often attributed to directors' changes. In an interview about the aforementioned SS Omega, Hatano explained how he had to fight to keep one death scene bloody and brutal as he believed that was fundamental for the moment.

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Re: Super Animation Catalogue 2.0 - Episode 93

Post by SaiyanGod117 » Mon Jun 12, 2017 7:45 pm

Welp than we won't be getting any blood anytime soon then sadly-hopefully there will be some battle damage.

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