Complete BT3 Info and Discussion Thread [UPDATED 10/02/07]

sangofe · Post by **sangofe** » Sat Sep 22, 2007 1:04 am

Rocketman wrote:Something that's been bugging me...

Did Kid ChiChi even fight?

Apart running around alone on her own? No, I'm pretty sure she did not.

fps_anth · Post by **fps_anth** » Sat Sep 22, 2007 1:32 am

We are ultimate heels!

Awesome wallpaper *saves*

QuantumDestiny · Post by **QuantumDestiny** » Sat Sep 22, 2007 1:40 am

sangofe wrote:
Rocketman wrote:Something that's been bugging me...

Did Kid ChiChi even fight?
Apart running around alone on her own? No, I'm pretty sure she did not.

Pretty sure she didn't in the manga, but in the DBZ anime older ChiChi remembers herself fighting with Goku as their first 'date'.

Chuquita · Post by **Chuquita** » Sat Sep 22, 2007 2:02 am

Would've been amusing had Chi-Chi continued to wear a cape into adulthood. (ala Piccolo)

Xyex · Post by **Xyex** » Sat Sep 22, 2007 2:09 am

gohanku wrote:On the video, what were the Z signs and X for? More characters?

The Z's would likely be unlocked characters (and stages) while the X is an unused spot.

EDIT
Just watched the Akkuman and Kid Chi-Chi video, looks great. Looks like Spike found a nice middle ground for the non-fliers. At least, it looked like Kid Chi-Chi had a slow sink to her float. That's sooooo much better than the "Flail and Fall™" of BT2. Now we should be able to at least get back over ground and keep in the air when we want.

mckeg · Post by **mckeg** » Sat Sep 22, 2007 5:19 am

Victator Supreme wrote:Why if I did not know better, I Would think "balancing" is an empty buzzword with no real meaning. Every character is unique and requires unique strategy. IF a character can't fly you adjust your plan accordingly. But if you run in using Roshi like you would Goku, then you are going to lose.

Bang on, someone said before 18 vs satan was a hard fight, well it wasnt if you used him appropriately. His rush blast2 + trap blast2 made it pretty easy once you adapted to his different play style.

Thanos6 · Post by **Thanos6** » Sat Sep 22, 2007 5:28 am

Character select screen!

http://www.ataricommunity.com/forums/sh ... p?t=612025

Xyex · Post by **Xyex** » Sat Sep 22, 2007 6:31 am

mckeg wrote:Bang on, someone said before 18 vs satan was a hard fight, well it wasnt if you used him appropriately. His rush blast2 + trap blast2 made it pretty easy once you adapted to his different play style.

Different play style? Oh, you mean spamming his rush attacks? Yeah, that's reeeeal fun.

Supa Saiya-Jin Tullece · Post by **Supa Saiya-Jin Tullece** » Sat Sep 22, 2007 7:04 am

You know what I wish for right now?

USSJ Mid Goku. Too bad I know that I'll never get it now.

The Tori-bot · Post by **The Tori-bot** » Sat Sep 22, 2007 7:39 am

sangofe wrote:
Rocketman wrote:Something that's been bugging me...

Did Kid ChiChi even fight?
Apart running around alone on her own? No, I'm pretty sure she did not.

C'mon! She decapitated and disintagrated (sp?) a friggin' dinosaur! Ya can't call that doing nothing!

Li'l Lemmy · Post by **Li'l Lemmy** » Sat Sep 22, 2007 7:47 am

Supa Saiya-Jin Tullece wrote:You know what I wish for right now?

USSJ Mid Goku. Too bad I know that I'll never get it now.

Have we ever had that form of Goku available to us in any game? I mean, I know that he never actually fought in that mode, but we did at least SEE him in it . . .

Ngh. Guess it's destined to go forever ignored, like SSJ2 Gotenks.

~Da Lemmy

The Tori-bot · Post by **The Tori-bot** » Sat Sep 22, 2007 7:49 am

Li'l Lemmy wrote:
Supa Saiya-Jin Tullece wrote:You know what I wish for right now?

USSJ Mid Goku. Too bad I know that I'll never get it now.
Have we ever had that form of Goku available to us in any game? I mean, I know that he never actually fought in that mode, but we did at least SEE him in it . . .

Ngh. Guess it's destined to go forever ignored, like SSJ2 Gotenks.

~Da Lemmy

Except that we never saw an SSJ2 Gotenks.

Li'l Lemmy · Post by **Li'l Lemmy** » Sat Sep 22, 2007 8:06 am

The Tori-bot wrote:
Li'l Lemmy wrote:
Supa Saiya-Jin Tullece wrote:You know what I wish for right now?

USSJ Mid Goku. Too bad I know that I'll never get it now.
Have we ever had that form of Goku available to us in any game? I mean, I know that he never actually fought in that mode, but we did at least SEE him in it . . .

Ngh. Guess it's destined to go forever ignored, like SSJ2 Gotenks.

~Da Lemmy
Except that we never saw an SSJ2 Gotenks.

Explicitly? No (though I'll forever argue that a certain scene in the anime is him powering up to that level, lightning or no).

But c'mawn. It's a reasonable extrapolation to make, given that friggin' 2 is between the numbers 1 and 3. This isn't like SSJ4 Vegeta, where he "cheated" and may or may not have skipped the third level in ascending (which is why I can't really complain about no SSJ3 Vegeta, badass as I think it would be); we know that there's a SSJ2 Gotenks because of damned nature.

The only problem would be assigning him a move list that isn't completely pulled out of one's ass . . . well, that, and the fact that he'd be a completely wasted character and take away slots from other characters and forms we have actually SEEN. But it's always bothered me for some reason that the SSJ2 Gotenks was never used all the same-- skipping from SSJ to SSJ3 is something I wanna do by choice, dammit.

Ngh. I'm done whining now, though; it's a good lineup on the whole, with lots of fanservice.

*exhale*

~Da Lemmy

Leotaku · Post by **Leotaku** » Sat Sep 22, 2007 9:06 am

kvon wrote:While we wait for the game's release, we can play "find the character" with this.

Does anyone have a non .png version of that image (ie, a file format with a lower file size)? 'Cause that takes WAY too long to download on my connection. :\

kvon wrote:
Leotaku wrote:Which trailer was that? I only watched that 8-minute one posted a few pages back. I don't think I noticed her falling. I hope she didn't...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHpP_ltufyA

This walk-through will show how earthbound characters would not fly, but simply jump or rush into the air since they will eventually descend slowly to the ground.

Thanks for that, kvon.
Hm, it was kinda hard to tell in that video. I think the best example I saw was around 1:20, when Chichi is powering up, and you can clearly see her descending; the aura made it easier for me to see.
Anyway, I guess that'll be OK. It's certainly better than flailing and falling, for me at least.

Conan the SSJ · Post by **Conan the SSJ** » Sat Sep 22, 2007 10:17 am

Li'l Lemmy wrote:Explicitly? No (though I'll forever argue that a certain scene in the anime is him powering up to that level, lightning or no).

But c'mawn. It's a reasonable extrapolation to make, given that friggin' 2 is between the numbers 1 and 3. This isn't like SSJ4 Vegeta, where he "cheated" and may or may not have skipped the third level in ascending (which is why I can't really complain about no SSJ3 Vegeta, badass as I think it would be); we know that there's a SSJ2 Gotenks because of damned nature.

The only problem would be assigning him a move list that isn't completely pulled out of one's ass . . . well, that, and the fact that he'd be a completely wasted character and take away slots from other characters and forms we have actually SEEN. But it's always bothered me for some reason that the SSJ2 Gotenks was never used all the same-- skipping from SSJ to SSJ3 is something I wanna do by choice, dammit.

Ngh. I'm done whining now, though; it's a good lineup on the whole, with lots of fanservice.

*exhale*

~Da Lemmy

We don't get a SSJ2 level for GT Kid Goku either, despite the fact he clearly went level 2 on at least a few brief occasions (one being where he deflects an attack of Hyper Metal Rilldo's). Although, he does always immediately revert back to SSJ. Regarding Gotenks, since lightning isn't a necessity in the anime, I see him as a SSJ2 in that format after the additional big-explosion "power-up" we see him do after going SSJ in the RoSaT. Where's the love for level 2, Spike!

Humpski · Post by **Humpski** » Sat Sep 22, 2007 10:35 am

Why is Seripa on the heroes side of that poster? I'd even argue and say that Bardock shouldn't be there either.

Gaiash · Post by **Gaiash** » Sat Sep 22, 2007 11:26 am

Oh for crying out loud not the "He was clearly Super Saiya-Jin 2 in that scene" arguement again I think you should just let it be.

Leotaku · Post by **Leotaku** » Sat Sep 22, 2007 11:37 am

caejones wrote:Lezee...

Namu can jump really high. There's Kento'un... And... Blue has ... that... rocket thing he used to fly away from Kamehouse.
Roshi and Gohan are kinda screwed, though. ZBut even then things are changed considerably.

Oh yeah, I forgot to mention; Roshi could've used that flying turtle thing he had when he travelled to Mount Frying Pan, or whatever it's called. Although, that turtle thing kept spinning around as it was flying, so I'm not sure if that would work.

the1payday · Post by **the1payday** » Sat Sep 22, 2007 11:49 am

I know we wouldn't see an Ultra Super Saiyan mid-Goku....and to be honest I really wouldn't use one if they did. However, it would be pretty cool if they added a "full powered" super saiyan stage for mid-Goku. "Full Powered" may not be the term I'm looking for, but I'm referring to the stage Goku was at during the Cell Games, with no Aura surrounding him.

That, and we also need a caped Gohan for his middle stage.

Rocketman · Post by **Rocketman** » Sat Sep 22, 2007 11:57 am

Supa Saiya-Jin Tullece wrote:USSJ Mid Goku. Too bad I know that I'll never get it now.

Goku: "This form's useless, best to stay with the regular Super Saiyan."

However, it would be pretty cool if they added a "full powered" super saiyan stage for mid-Goku.

Select Super Saiyan Goku in his Cell Games outfit, then don't depower for the whole match.

Where's the love for level 2, Spike!

Ask Toei, since they couldn't even keep SSJ2 straight on the Goku vs Majin Vegeta fight.