The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

[Kaboom]

Yeah, if Popo's number were greater than Piccolo's or something, then it'd really be puzzling why he didn't go help. But as it is, he'd be of no more use than the humans. Heck, despite that high power, he's still a good chunk weaker than Kuririn, Tenshinhan, and Yamcha.

[Saiga]

And we all saw what happened to Yamcha.

[Kid Buu]

I wouldn't call him less useful than Chiaotzu though.

Edit: Talking about Popo here, not Yamcha.

[ZombieVito]

Why not defeat King Piccolo?

Because that will kill Kamisama.

[RandomGuy96]

I wouldn't call him less useful than Chiaotzu though.

Edit: Talking about Popo here, not Yamcha.

Chiaotzu's psychic powers should effect beings much greater than Popo. He seemed shocked his abilities didn't work on Nappa, despite knowing how strong his fellow humans were.

Because that will kill Kamisama.

Defeat, not kill.

[Kid Buu]

Yeah poor Chaotzu just does NOTHING in that fight but die, at least Yamcha's death meant a Saibaman died at least. It's part of the reason why I consider Tenshinhan, Yamcha, & Chaotzu Vs Ginyu Force canon; got to throw those guys a bone at one point.

So do you guys think Piccolo Daimao was stronger than Kami or not? Some people say no because Goku lost to Kami, but guidebooks gave Piccolo the higher power. Basically Kami vs Piccolo is pure strength.

[ZombieVito]

Because that will kill Kamisama.

Defeat, not kill.

But that would accomplish nothing. You have to kill him or seal him up.

Popo couldn't do a thing.

[RandomGuy96]

Because that will kill Kamisama.

Defeat, not kill.

But that would accomplish nothing. You have to kill him or seal him up.

Popo couldn't do a thing.

He could just break every bone in his body. And why wouldn't Popo be able to seal him?

So do you guys think Piccolo Daimao was stronger than Kami or not? Some people say no because Goku lost to Kami, but guidebooks gave Piccolo the higher power. Basically Kami vs Piccolo is pure strength.

No. That 220 for Kami number came from a magazine and was never reprinted in the Daizenshuu.

[Kaboom]

The 220 number for Kami was from the same article as the 1000-something for Popo, so that might be considered from the Saiyan arc as well. If Kami's power was maybe around 300 after the King Piccolo debacle and 350 or so after training for the 23rd Tournament, then considering his age, perhaps after almost ten years of inactivity...

[Kid Buu]

Well, old age makes humans weaker....so maybe it applies to Nameks as well?

[RandomGuy96]

It worked for King Piccolo. But then, I wouldn't follow 220 even if it that was case; I take Goku's 910 from that same article and kinda just scale from there, because I think that makes more sense with the statements and feats actually depicted (like King Piccolo's "not even half my power" comment). It only requires ignoring the numbers for King Piccolo and post-god water Goku. Also, assuming Ten, Krillin, and Yamcha were read at resting levels, like Goku and Piccolo. Everyone at the 22nd Budokai, as well as Cyborg Tao and BoZ Goku, can just be their Weekly Jump numbers.

[Kid Buu]

How strong do they have Cyborg Tao at?

[RandomGuy96]

How strong do they have Cyborg Tao at?

210. Which doesn't really fit his "many times greater" statement, and also is too strong for how effortlessly Tenshinhan owned him if he really was merely 250, but meh, it's impossible to fit all of those statements (though I managed to make a BP list where I fit all but one).

[Hellspawn28]

Buu Saga Kuririn vs. Pui Pui

So what if Vegeta and Piccolo got turn into stone instead. How would Kuririn handle Pui Pui.

[Kid Buu]

I have Babidis bosses at the previous Big Bads strength, so Pui Pui would be around Oozaru Vegeta's strength. Kuririn should take this.

[RandomGuy96]

I have Babidis bosses at the previous Big Bads strength, so Pui Pui would be around Oozaru Vegeta's strength. Kuririn should take this.

Ditto. Plus, I just can't see Krillin losing to a guy who after getting his ass kicked thought that he would wreck the guy who was stomping him just because they're in x10 gravity.

[Kid Buu]

Raditz Vs. all 6 Saibamen.

No Kamikazes.

[RandomGuy96]

Raditz Vs. all 6 Saibamen.

No Kamikazes.

Two or three Saibamen would be enough, as long as he can't go Oozaru. Like I said earlier about Popo and Yajirobe vs a Saibamen, it'd be like 100% Freeza fighting two King Colds, or better yet two 100% Freezas fighting Super Saiyan Goku. He would be able to sweep one aside after a little struggle, maybe pull an incredibly hard fought victory against two, and be ridiculously screwed against three. Same thing would happen to Yamcha.

[Kid Buu]

I actually don't think Yamcha was stronger than the Saibamen. The fight seemed pretty damn even until Yamcha used the Kamehameha, compare that to Tenshinhan who just straight up beat the Saibaman in melee.

[RandomGuy96]

I actually don't think Yamcha was stronger than the Saibamen. The fight seemed pretty damn even until Yamcha used the Kamehameha, compare that to Tenshinhan who just straight up beat the Saibaman in melee.

Yamcha was 1,480, the Saibaman was 1,200. Simple enough, why doubt it? He did seem stronger by virtue of hitting it before it hit him, after all.