The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

[goku the krump dancer]

Base Vegito vs Fat Buu

I've seen people place base Vegetto at SSJ3 Goku's level so even at his possible absolute weakest, he's still capable of defeating Fat Stuff with moderate effort if he's 100% serious. If you place base Vegetto at anything higher than SSJ3 Goku then the amount of effort he has to dish out becomes less and less lol.

[Pantalones]

Piccolo fused with Kami will just raise his power by a bit . Kami isn't that strong to begin with .We know Kami is less than 400 ,As Piccalo was around 400-460.(against Radditz)

Piccolo was around 3,200 against nappa ... even if we assume Kami was 500 , It still wont be 4000.

...did you miss what actually happened when Piccolo fused with Kami later on? He didn't just get a little increase like adding on Kami's not-even-remotely-relevant-at-that-point level onto his own would be. He went from weak enough to be beaten in a couple hits by Android 17 all the way up to being his equal (maybe even stronger, considering they fought equally pretty much the whole time regardless of the fact that #17 doesn't get tired, and that he probably would've killed #17 if not for the barrier blocking his attack at one point.) That's definitely not a less-than-400-point increase.

And consider that the original nameless Namek's power is said to be way more than any Saiyan could handle, yet both of his split halves (Daimao/Kami) seem to have never been any higher than 300-something. Just adding them together would only end up with a level that even Raditz could beat, not one that would seem incredible to a planet full of 3000ish Nameks. It definitely doesn't work by just adding Piccolo and Kami's levels together.

[ZombieVito]

Guru actually states the fusion will give Piccolo a x2 boost. Still inferior to Vegeta but a lot stronger than Nappa.

[RandomGuy96]

Guru actually states the fusion will give Piccolo a x2 boost. Still inferior to Vegeta but a lot stronger than Nappa.

Yeah, Guru never says that. What he actually says is that when the Nameless Namek split, he lost half of the power he was gifted at birth. Whatever that means.

[Kid Buu]

Toriyama said Mr. Satan might not be about as strong as Bob Sapp, so who'd win between those?

[RandomGuy96]

Toriyama said he was weaker than Sapp. I think that was just his way of saying Sapp would win in a fight.

Why did he say Bob Sapp was stronger than Satan anyway? Why that one specific guy?

[Kid Buu]

Toriyama said he was weaker than Sapp. I think that was just his way of saying Sapp would win in a fight.

Why did he say Bob Sapp was stronger than Satan anyway? Why that one specific guy?

Well he make be weaker than Sapp, but apparently Sapp has creative ways to lose a fight

[Mystic Buu]

Piccolo(before he fused with Kami) vs Future #17.

[Saiga]

Piccolo(before he fused with Kami) vs Future #17.

I definitely think Future #17 would win. Trunks seems to think the Z-team are only capable of defeating the Androids if they outnumber them before he finds out that they're stronger than the ones in his timeline. I don't think anyone at that stage could defeat a Future 17 or 18 one-on-one.

[TheGmGoken]

Piccolo(before he fused with Kami) vs Future #17.

Future 17. I mean I have 17 of the Future the same power of Main timeline 17. So Piccolo would get mega owned. Besides didn't 17 KILL Piccolo in the future?

[Wibbs]

Piccolo(before he fused with Kami) vs Future #17.

Future 17. I mean I have 17 of the Future the same power of Main timeline 17. So Piccolo would get mega owned. Besides didn't 17 KILL Piccolo in the future?

Future Android 18 killed Piccolo in both the Anime and the TV Special.

[Mystic Buu]

Piccolo(before he fused with Kami) vs Future #17.

Future 17. I mean I have 17 of the Future the same power of Main timeline 17. So Piccolo would get mega owned. Besides didn't 17 KILL Piccolo in the future?

I meant present Piccolo.But now I also think that Future #17 would win.So next one:SSJ Trunks vs Meta-Cooler

[RandomGuy96]

Which Trunks? Fresh new SS Future Trunks from his special? Mecha arc Trunks? Android arc Trunks? Perfect Cell arc Trunks? Cell Games Trunks? Kid Trunks in the Buu Saga? Before ROSAT training? After?

Anyway, Daizenshuu said future 17 was only somewhat weaker than present 17 to boot. That's on top of what Saiga brought up. Future 17 dispatches Piccolo with one blow.

[Mystic Buu]

Which Trunks? Fresh new SS Future Trunks from his special? Mecha arc Trunks? Android arc Trunks? Perfect Cell arc Trunks? Cell Games Trunks? Kid Trunks in the Buu Saga? Before ROSAT training? After?

Anyway, Daizenshuu said future 17 was only somewhat weaker than present 17 to boot. That's on top of what Saiga brought up. Future 17 dispatches Piccolo with one blow.

Oops,I meant SSJ Kid Trunks(after RoSaT) vs Meta-Cooler.

[RandomGuy96]

Which Trunks? Fresh new SS Future Trunks from his special? Mecha arc Trunks? Android arc Trunks? Perfect Cell arc Trunks? Cell Games Trunks? Kid Trunks in the Buu Saga? Before ROSAT training? After?

Anyway, Daizenshuu said future 17 was only somewhat weaker than present 17 to boot. That's on top of what Saiga brought up. Future 17 dispatches Piccolo with one blow.

Oops,I meant SSJ Kid Trunks(after RoSaT) vs Meta-Cooler.

Oh, well, even pre-ROSAT Trunks finger-flicks Metal Cooler, who should only be in between 17 and 16.

[TheGmGoken]

Which Trunks? Fresh new SS Future Trunks from his special? Mecha arc Trunks? Android arc Trunks? Perfect Cell arc Trunks? Cell Games Trunks? Kid Trunks in the Buu Saga? Before ROSAT training? After?

Anyway, Daizenshuu said future 17 was only somewhat weaker than present 17 to boot. That's on top of what Saiga brought up. Future 17 dispatches Piccolo with one blow.

Oops,I meant SSJ Kid Trunks(after RoSaT) vs Meta-Cooler.

My mans Trunks win. He's comparable to Piccolo at that point. Hell include Goten in there and Goten will shit on Meta Cooler.

[Wibbs]

Which Trunks? Fresh new SS Future Trunks from his special? Mecha arc Trunks? Android arc Trunks? Perfect Cell arc Trunks? Cell Games Trunks? Kid Trunks in the Buu Saga? Before ROSAT training? After?

Anyway, Daizenshuu said future 17 was only somewhat weaker than present 17 to boot. That's on top of what Saiga brought up. Future 17 dispatches Piccolo with one blow.

Oops,I meant SSJ Kid Trunks(after RoSaT) vs Meta-Cooler.

Oh, well, even pre-ROSAT Trunks finger-flicks Metal Cooler, who should only be in between 17 and 16.

I know this is off topic but it's really bothering me, what does RoSaT stand for?

[TheGmGoken]

I know this is off topic but it's really bothering me, what does RoSaT stand for?

Room of Spirit and Time. It's the called the "Hyperbolic Time Chamber" in the English dub.

[Wibbs]

I know this is off topic but it's really bothering me, what does RoSaT stand for?

Room of Spirit and Time. It's the called the "Hyperbolic Time Chamber" in the English dub.

Oh, I get it now. I though you were referring to a special or something. Anyway thanks for clearing that up for me.

[Kid Buu]

Jeice Vs Burter