"Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

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Post by Miracles » Thu Feb 23, 2017 12:21 am

A weak chapter.

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Post by Noah » Thu Feb 23, 2017 1:41 am

Miracles wrote:A weak chapter.
Why?
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Post by Miracles » Thu Feb 23, 2017 2:46 am

Noah wrote:
Miracles wrote:A weak chapter.
Why?
A detailed explanation on timeline/parallel worlds surely got me screaming and doing push ups.

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Post by Gig » Thu Feb 23, 2017 4:31 am

Sorry if someone already asked this... but has there been any explanation for the fact that Zamasu (basically a Kaioh) does have healing abilities and superior deities (U7 and U10 Kaioshins) not?
Chapter 21 says that Kibito has got such abilities to support the Kaioshin he servers... so are healing abilities something limited to lower level "divine" beings for some reason?

Do you think Zamasu would have lost this power in case he normally completed his Kaioshin training and officially become the new U10 Kaioshin (with his life then tied to U10 God of Destruction's one)?

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Post by Nejishiki » Thu Feb 23, 2017 5:12 am

Based on the information we currently have, that's probably the situation. I personally think Zamasu would keep his healing gifts since he's a prodigy.
Zeru14 wrote:I'm also glad Toyo unlike Toei made the Supreme Kai's play a more active role, and not just have them show up only for the Potara fusion. One thing I noted is that in this chapter Future Zamasu and Black stated that the only planet they attacked so far is Earth, that means that New Namek and their Dragonballs are still intact.
How do you figure? From my recollection, Future Zamasu wanted to take refuge on another planet rather than Future Earth being the only planet they attacked.

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Post by MyNiggaGoku » Thu Feb 23, 2017 9:28 am

Can anyone tell me where I can find the manga chapters in original Japanese & of respectable quality? Thanks!
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Post by micah007 » Thu Feb 23, 2017 5:08 pm

MyNiggaGoku wrote:Can anyone tell me where I can find the manga chapters in original Japanese & of respectable quality? Thanks!
I've only ever found one clean source that post the full original Japanese scans in respectable quality. This guy who runs a facebook page of V-Jump archives he will update with current issues a few days after they release.

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Post by MyNiggaGoku » Thu Feb 23, 2017 5:35 pm

micah007 wrote:
MyNiggaGoku wrote:Can anyone tell me where I can find the manga chapters in original Japanese & of respectable quality? Thanks!
I've only ever found one clean source that post the full original Japanese scans in respectable quality. This guy who runs a facebook page of V-Jump archives he will update with current issues a few days after they release.

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Post by micah007 » Thu Feb 23, 2017 5:44 pm

MyNiggaGoku wrote:
micah007 wrote:
MyNiggaGoku wrote:Can anyone tell me where I can find the manga chapters in original Japanese & of respectable quality? Thanks!
I've only ever found one clean source that post the full original Japanese scans in respectable quality. This guy who runs a facebook page of V-Jump archives he will update with current issues a few days after they release.

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Post by TheUltimateNinja » Thu Feb 23, 2017 5:50 pm

So, is Black's SSRose multiplier just garbage? If so how can it be considered superior to SSGod?

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Post by Ajay » Thu Feb 23, 2017 6:33 pm

MyNiggaGoku wrote:
micah007 wrote:
MyNiggaGoku wrote:Can anyone tell me where I can find the manga chapters in original Japanese & of respectable quality? Thanks!
I've only ever found one clean source that post the full original Japanese scans in respectable quality. This guy who runs a facebook page of V-Jump archives he will update with current issues a few days after they release.

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This is not okay.

Please do not ask for or post links to illegal scans. This is outlined in Rule #5 of the Forum Rules, which you agreed to abide by when you signed up to the forum.

V Jump is easily available for purchase through a multitude of sites -- CD Japan, Amazon Japan, etc. They ship internationally.

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Post by MyNiggaGoku » Thu Feb 23, 2017 6:36 pm

Ajay wrote:
MyNiggaGoku wrote:
micah007 wrote:
I've only ever found one clean source that post the full original Japanese scans in respectable quality. This guy who runs a facebook page of V-Jump archives he will update with current issues a few days after they release.

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Post by Noah » Thu Feb 23, 2017 9:41 pm

Miracles wrote:A detailed explanation on timeline/parallel worlds surely got me screaming and doing push ups.
So you don't like when they try to explain stuff to us? :|
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Post by TheUltimateNinja » Thu Feb 23, 2017 9:45 pm

Noah wrote:
Miracles wrote:A detailed explanation on timeline/parallel worlds surely got me screaming and doing push ups.
So you don't like when they try to explain stuff to us? :|
I don't like it because it canonizes a mistake. Trunks was originally from 20 years in the future, once he returns to his timeline he only has to wait 8 months to make anoher trip so then he ends up being from 17 years in the future. Eventually at some point Toriyama forgot this and thought Trunks was always from 17 years in the future and this makes that official.

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Post by Jinzoningen MULE » Thu Feb 23, 2017 9:47 pm

TheUltimateNinja wrote:
Noah wrote:
Miracles wrote:A detailed explanation on timeline/parallel worlds surely got me screaming and doing push ups.
So you don't like when they try to explain stuff to us? :|
I don't like it because it canonizes a mistake. Trunks was originally from 20 years in the future, once he returns to his timeline he only has to wait 8 months to make anoher trip so then he ends up being from 17 years in the future. Eventually at some point Toriyama forgot this and thought Trunks was always from 17 years in the future and this makes that official.
I don't even care about the mistakes anymore. I can't! Every time I think about it, I come to the same conclusion; "What the hell is time travel even doing in Dragon Ball?!"
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Post by Noah » Thu Feb 23, 2017 9:57 pm

TheUltimateNinja wrote:I don't like it because it canonizes a mistake. Trunks was originally from 20 years in the future, once he returns to his timeline he only has to wait 8 months to make anoher trip so then he ends up being from 17 years in the future. Eventually at some point Toriyama forgot this and thought Trunks was always from 17 years in the future and this makes that official.
No it doesn't make, there's no official canon, you can keep Super as a separated thing from the original manga and still enjoy for what it is, but didn't that "20 years in the future" was just a TV Special 2 thing? I thought in the manga was 17 and how this chapter confirms that Trunks waited 8 months instead of 3 years to go to the past in the Android arc?
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Post by TheUltimateNinja » Thu Feb 23, 2017 10:00 pm

Jinzoningen MULE wrote: I don't even care about the mistakes anymore. I can't! Every time I think about it, I come to the same conclusion; "What the hell is time travel even doing in Dragon Ball?!"
The problem is that this would mean Trunks was only 14 years old when he first came to the past and that he didn't grow at all for 3 years.

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Post by TheUltimateNinja » Thu Feb 23, 2017 10:02 pm

Noah wrote:
TheUltimateNinja wrote:I don't like it because it canonizes a mistake. Trunks was originally from 20 years in the future, once he returns to his timeline he only has to wait 8 months to make anoher trip so then he ends up being from 17 years in the future. Eventually at some point Toriyama forgot this and thought Trunks was always from 17 years in the future and this makes that official.
No it doesn't make, there's no official canon, you can keep Super as a separated thing from the original manga and still enjoy for what it is, but didn't that "20 years in the future" was just a TV Special 2 thing? I thought in the manga was 17 and how this chapter confirms that Trunks waited 8 months instead of 3 years to go to the past in the Android arc?
No, Trunks tells Goku he's from 20 years in the future when he first comes to the past. He then waits 8 months in his own timeline and goes back 17 years. However according to this chapter he was always from 17 years in the future all along, which is wrong.

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Post by Jinzoningen MULE » Thu Feb 23, 2017 10:18 pm

TheUltimateNinja wrote:The problem is that this would mean Trunks was only 14 years old when he first came to the past and that he didn't grow at all for 3 years.
I get the problem, I'm just saying that I've long passed the point where I can be bothered with it.
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Post by Basako » Fri Feb 24, 2017 1:47 am

TheUltimateNinja wrote:
Noah wrote:
TheUltimateNinja wrote:I don't like it because it canonizes a mistake. Trunks was originally from 20 years in the future, once he returns to his timeline he only has to wait 8 months to make anoher trip so then he ends up being from 17 years in the future. Eventually at some point Toriyama forgot this and thought Trunks was always from 17 years in the future and this makes that official.
No it doesn't make, there's no official canon, you can keep Super as a separated thing from the original manga and still enjoy for what it is, but didn't that "20 years in the future" was just a TV Special 2 thing? I thought in the manga was 17 and how this chapter confirms that Trunks waited 8 months instead of 3 years to go to the past in the Android arc?
No, Trunks tells Goku he's from 20 years in the future when he first comes to the past. He then waits 8 months in his own timeline and goes back 17 years. However according to this chapter he was always from 17 years in the future all along, which is wrong.
Let's be exact, Bulma doesn't say the time machine could never get reset before, she is talking specificly about now. Maybe it's because the link between the two timelines is weaker now, because the macine got old, and if she moves something, the link will fade.

We factually know that the machine has been reset before. Even if you want to consider that Trunks did wait the 3 years, which would make the number of 17 a mistake, we also have Cell's time travel with the time machine that was used by Trunks before, meaning it was reset to 25 years.
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