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Post by goku the krump dancer » Sun Sep 23, 2012 2:32 pm

Something about Cell's cockiness makes me hope that Bojack puts up a decent fight.

But I think it would funny if Gohan told Cell that he'd fight him if he forfeited his match. Which would lead to more interesting matches later on like Kakarott vs Bojack since they seem to be around the same level of power.
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I believe Zen Boo states (back when Bojack killed Pan) that Gohan handent lost any power.
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Post by Rocketman » Sun Sep 23, 2012 2:57 pm

Pages like this make me wish there were some design changes for the characters from Vegetto's universe. Have Gohan keep his bang or something.

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Post by Kaboom » Sun Sep 23, 2012 3:35 pm

Oh, this ought to be good.
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Post by Hellspawn28 » Sun Sep 23, 2012 3:40 pm

If Cell or Bojack wins then one of them will fight either Kuririn or Tapion the next around. I'm pretty Kuririn or Tapion will lose or maybe end up being killed.
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Post by Kingdom Heartless » Sun Sep 23, 2012 3:42 pm

I don't know how I feel about Gohan going down the road of bloodlust again, however I'd love to see a good rematch between him and Cell. Maybe Gohan could actually get some enjoyment out of a fight for once.
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Post by Hades » Sun Sep 23, 2012 3:42 pm

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Was that a subtle dig at the Bojack special?
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Post by rereboy » Sun Sep 23, 2012 3:43 pm

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Saiga wrote:I still don't see Cell becoming that powerful over the years. I'm not saying he couldn't have improved with training, but I don't see how he could push himself into another tier of power. Him training himself to become SS3 level would be like Goku or Vegeta becoming SS3 level in their SS2 forms.
Cell has Goku's and Vegeta's cells, among others. His potential is as big or superior to Goku's and Vegeta's and he also has their will to fight and become stronger. If Goku achieved SSJ3 in 7 years after the Cell games just because of his drive to become stronger, Cell might as well.
Having someone's cells doesn't automatically give you equal or greater potential. Cell's potential revolved around absorbing the Androids to become complete, and there's no indication that he could have anything resembling Super Saiyan 3.

Plus Goku obtained SS3 by training in other world.
Apparently, in Dragon Ball, having someone's cells even allows you to even use the techniques of the fighter from which those cells came from, and yet you are saying that's not enough for him to have the same potential... A being made out of the best traits of Goku, Vegeta, Piccolo, Freeza, Cold and #17 wouldn't have the potential to achieve a similar power gain as one of the people he is made out of, in the same period of time...

Of course he has the potential to do that, or even greater. We just don't know if he actually fulfilled his potential to the fullest but he obviously has that potential. And being made out of those people, its only obvious that he would grow stronger in 27 years. We just don't know by how much.

Also, Cell has equivalent auras to SSJ1 and SSJ2. That is more than enough indication that Cell has similar "stages" to SSJ1 and SSJ2 and thus probably SSJ3 if he reaches that kind of power.

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Post by funrush » Sun Sep 23, 2012 3:47 pm

Hades wrote:
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Was that a subtle dig at the Bojack special?
No, Bojack killed U16 Pan. He's watching U18 Gohan and Pan

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Post by Gyt Kaliba » Sun Sep 23, 2012 4:25 pm

This is definitely getting interesting now. I wasn't expecting Kakarot to actually calm down after this, but I'm definitely intrigued by Cell's dialogue towards Gohan. So did Gohan go cut a deal with him too, or was this more something of Cell's idea? Although...wait...it was the canon Gohan that went and talked to Vegeta, Kakarot, Nappa, and Raditz, right? It had to have been, since it was his daughter he wanted saved. So, about that time, the other Gohan who lost his daughter, cut a deal with Cell maybe?
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Post by Marco Polo » Sun Sep 23, 2012 4:58 pm

Rocketman wrote:Pages like this make me wish there were some design changes for the characters from Vegetto's universe. Have Gohan keep his bang or something.
I kinda agree, but I think the fact that the two Gohans look the same was done on purpose for some kind of plot twist. We don't know which version of Gohan was it that struck a deal with Universe 13's Vegeta.

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Post by dprez » Sun Sep 23, 2012 5:21 pm

I can't wait to see how strong this Cell is. I bet he could manage to achieve a Ssj3 like power and push that even further. He seams pretty confident about challenging Gohan, even knowing that he is not the strongest one at the tournament. I'd say he has become a little less arrogant about his "perfection", and with his new found maturity, can see that he needs to improve when witnessing a greater power. This tells me that he has already improved a great deal over the past 27 years. With his superior genes and zenkai ability, I'd say it's not a stretch at all to put his power at least on the Ssj3 level tier.

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Post by Saimaroimaru » Sun Sep 23, 2012 5:31 pm

Maybe he plans on absorbing Gohan? That is one way to power up fast.

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Post by Daisetsu » Sun Sep 23, 2012 6:18 pm

Marco Polo wrote:
Rocketman wrote:Pages like this make me wish there were some design changes for the characters from Vegetto's universe. Have Gohan keep his bang or something.
I kinda agree, but I think the fact that the two Gohans look the same was done on purpose for some kind of plot twist. We don't know which version of Gohan was it that struck a deal with Universe 13's Vegeta.
It was U18 Gohan that made the deal. While U16 talked with the Kaioshins.

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Post by dario03 » Sun Sep 23, 2012 6:24 pm

Cell most of got a good bit stronger. He has sensed Gohan's power but is casually challenging him to a fight.

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Post by Scarz » Sun Sep 23, 2012 6:32 pm

I'm waiting for Gohan to say something completely out of character on the next page. Like "make him pay" or "make him suffer" but I'll love to be proven wrong.

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Post by funrush » Sun Sep 23, 2012 6:56 pm

Scarz wrote:I'm waiting for Gohan to say something completely out of character on the next page. Like "make him pay" or "make him suffer" but I'll love to be proven wrong.
Well, we don't know. He did kill his daughter earlier. We know how he is when he gets pissed.

Although he doesn't exactly look pissed here.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Saiga » Sun Sep 23, 2012 9:52 pm

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Apparently, in Dragon Ball, having someone's cells even allows you to even use the techniques of the fighter from which those cells came from, and yet you are saying that's not enough for him to have the same potential... A being made out of the best traits of Goku, Vegeta, Piccolo, Freeza, Cold and #17 wouldn't have the potential to achieve a similar power gain as one of the people he is made out of, in the same period of time...

Of course he has the potential to do that, or even greater. We just don't know if he actually fulfilled his potential to the fullest but he obviously has that potential. And being made out of those people, its only obvious that he would grow stronger in 27 years. We just don't know by how much.

Also, Cell has equivalent auras to SSJ1 and SSJ2. That is more than enough indication that Cell has similar "stages" to SSJ1 and SSJ2 and thus probably SSJ3 if he reaches that kind of power.
That's too different things. Plus, Gero actually monitored the battles so it doesn't mean that Cell knew the techniques just from having their cells... stuff like the Kamehameha can be used by practically everyone to boot. Like I said, I wouldn't find it too bad if he had the potential to keep up with their SS2 forms because he had a SS2 equivalent... but there's no "of course" about it, he could very well develop slower through training because he was only designed to gain power through other methods.

Hell, he has Gohan's cells yet he doesn't have the "dormant power awakened through rage" thing so I doubt cells have anything to do with that.

I'm not saying he can't improve at all. Just that I think it's bullshit to assume that he can make massive gains through training when there's nothing to indicate that he ever could.

It's not really enough indication. We don't know how Cell's biology works, and his "SS2" equivalent is more or less a mistake. For him to get some magical SS3 equivalent it'd take one hell of a fluke to unlock and I think it'd take more than just training because to get there.
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Post by JulieYBM » Sun Sep 23, 2012 10:07 pm

Cell must be a pain to drawn, but I do hope he wins.
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Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Mon Sep 24, 2012 12:12 am

Saiga wrote:That's too different things. Plus, Gero actually monitored the battles so it doesn't mean that Cell knew the techniques just from having their cells... stuff like the Kamehameha can be used by practically everyone to boot. Like I said, I wouldn't find it too bad if he had the potential to keep up with their SS2 forms because he had a SS2 equivalent... but there's no "of course" about it, he could very well develop slower through training because he was only designed to gain power through other methods.

Hell, he has Gohan's cells yet he doesn't have the "dormant power awakened through rage" thing so I doubt cells have anything to do with that.

I'm not saying he can't improve at all. Just that I think it's bullshit to assume that he can make massive gains through training when there's nothing to indicate that he ever could.

It's not really enough indication. We don't know how Cell's biology works, and his "SS2" equivalent is more or less a mistake. For him to get some magical SS3 equivalent it'd take one hell of a fluke to unlock and I think it'd take more than just training because to get there.
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How he obtained his SS2 equivalent was definitely a fluke, I'll give you that, but absolutely nothing says he couldn't have obtained that power via another method given the time and need/desire/motivation. I mean, Cell has all the traits, abilities and techniques of the characters who were used in his creation, including the near death boosts. Even though Gero was creating him with the intention of making him the most powerful being in existence, I think it would be absurd to assume that the doctor or the computer would code him with such an imperfection as not being able to increase his power via training (at least in his perfect form) so that he can't make the same sort of gains almost every other character in the series displays the ability to make, especially when you consider who most of his DNA donors were: Goku, Vegeta, Piccolo, Freeza, Cold and "various other organisms"; like insects. (He doesn't have Gohan's cells in the original...nor Kuririn, Nappa or Tenshinhan.) That would be such a gigantic flaw in his supposedly perfect being...

Oh, and Cell defying logic and having techniques of the various character just from having their cells is pretty much stated directly in the series. Gero monitored the battles for a while, but then stopped and gave the project over to the computer. He didn't know about Super Saiyan because he didn't watch Goku defeat Freeza, yet Cell clearly displays the ability to use the Death Beam, so it wasn't something Gero himself programmed in. Add in the fact that Piccolo states that Cell's very first Kamehameha is pathetic because Goku's cells were harvested back when he was a lot weaker, well I don't think you need much more to see the connection.
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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by CaBrPi » Mon Sep 24, 2012 12:14 am

Saiga wrote:Hell, he has Gohan's cells yet he doesn't have the "dormant power awakened through rage" thing so I doubt cells have anything to do with that.
No, he doesn't, unless that's only true in this fanmanga. In the original, he has Goku's, Vegeta's, Piccolo's, Freeza's, and King Cold's cells, but not Gohan's, nor Nappa's, nor Kuririn's or any of the other humans'.

There's also the fact that Cell is shown to be aware of the zenkai power-up. I wouldn't put it past him to abuse it.

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