"Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

[kinisking]

The Goku black arc should not have been made into a movie. The best part was Goku Blacks mystery, and the build up would be shit in a movie. Developing Zamasu's motivation would be even worse along with emphasizing how destroyed Trunks feels about what happened. There's just so much and a movie equivalent wouldn't give us anything besides for better animation.

The mystery aspect and Zamasu's development could easily be adapted into a movie, but adjustments would have to be made. I've even written a rough draft of a script and timed it out in my head (I plan on making my own cut, but it probably won't happen).

For an example on how to handle Zamasu, cut down most of episode 53 to include just the fight, have a 2-3 minute scene between Zamasu and Gowasu discussing the morality of humans, the events of Barbari occur, another 3-5 minute scene conveying Zamasu's turn to the dark side. All of this would occur from 15-ish minutes in to 50 minutes, and would be interspersed with footage of Trunks/Vegeta training, Bulma fixing the time machine, etc.

As for Goku Black's identity, it would be easy enough. The structure would be similar to how the anime handled it. You have speculation throughout part 1, which intensifies once everyone goes to the past, but instead of being revealed before the second fight, it would happen not long before the final battle begins.

A movie could easily work with a little rearranging, and everything that made the anime version enjoyable could be left intact while shaving off the poorly placed padding, uneven build-up, etc. You just need to have a little imagination.

Just because it fits , doesn't mean it'll fit well. It'll have the same story beats, but a quicker pacing will definitely stop everything from setting in properly. Heck, people complained about how quick 66 was, and there's no way a movie would do it slower.

[Jinzoningen MULE]

Just because it fits , doesn't mean it'll fit well. It'll have the same story beats, but a quicker pacing will definitely stop everything from setting in properly. Heck, people complained about how quick 66 was, and there's no way a movie would do it slower.

I guarantee it could be done, I can see it in my head. Like I said, I've already gotten a rough draft of a script that I estimate is just a little under two and a half hours, and that's without changing the order of events at all. My only reservation about starting work on it is that I may loose interest partway through. I also want to hold off until I have the English dub available, since I'd like it to be dual track.

By the way, my estimations are just cutting from existing footage. If we got a legitimate, Toei-made movie, they could convey the same thing that I'm planning to do, but seamlessly. Need I even mention that the manga is proof that the arc can be shortened and remain competent? A movie wouldn't even go as far as the manga does.

[micah007]

So it looks like Volume 3 will be released on June 2,2017 according to a leak sources.

[Miracles]

I like the way the anime and manga explain situations for each other.
The Zamasu timeline paradox that was not explained in detail in the anime was solved in this manga chapter.
Toriyama is keeping the story clean.

[The gr]

So it looks like Volume 3 will be released on June 2,2017 according to a leak sources.

Do you have any evidence to support this

I like the way the anime and manga explain situations for each other.
The Zamasu timeline paradox that was not explained in detail in the anime was solved in this manga chapter.
Toriyama is keeping the story clean.

sadly the manga still have the bullshit Beerus causing a split timeline,but I agree with the manga fixing the time paradox from zamasu origin,I'm hoping to see a chapter on how zamasu was so successful Frome switching bodies with Goku and fleeing from the timeline

[micah007]

So it looks like Volume 3 will be released on June 2,2017 according to a leak sources.

Do you have any evidence to support this

I like the way the anime and manga explain situations for each other.

I do it comes from https://www.db-z.com/ they have a good track record, I've been following them for awhile.

[Noah]

I hope by the time we get into the Universe Survival arc in the manga we get a better approach of what Toriyama is wanting to do with Goku's character in this same arc.

[The gr]

I hope by the time we get into the Universe Survival arc in the manga we get a better approach of what Toriyama is wanting to do with Goku's character in this same arc.

I highly doubt if toyataro is going to change things,but who knows we might have a less douchebag Goku in the manga,but the Bergamo figth must have a different approach in term of story just to avoid douchebag Goku

so according to website I've read, volume 3 will feature chapter 16-21,I'm looking forward to see the cover, and I found a cool screenshot related to the mangaI know sintzu would love to have this image as his wallpaper

[Chuquita]

So it looks like Volume 3 will be released on June 2,2017 according to a leak sources.

June? Wonderful! I was expecting it to be March or April which felt too soon to me.

Now I just have to remember to regularly check for its listing so I don't miss it.

[Lupin879]

I'd be looking for a page of the chapter 13 in Japanese. Could anybody help me?

The page is this
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[Basako]

I'm hoping to see a chapter on how zamasu was so successful Frome switching bodies with Goku and fleeing from the timeline

I think we may see that if/when Goku fights directly against Black. Next chapter last chance.

[mfwlegend3]

Funny little strip made by Toyotaro. I've never seen this before.
https://s14.postimg.org/f2usge7rl/IMG_0086.jpg

[Ki Breaker]

Funny little strip made by Toyotaro. I've never seen this before.
https://s14.postimg.org/f2usge7rl/IMG_0086.jpg

Haha that was a good one, never saw it myself

[Lord Beerus]

Funny little strip made by Toyotaro. I've never seen this before.
https://s14.postimg.org/f2usge7rl/IMG_0086.jpg

Pretty sure this was released around the time the Super anime was first announced.

Still gets a laugh out of me.

[Ajay]

Funny little strip made by Toyotaro. I've never seen this before.
https://s14.postimg.org/f2usge7rl/IMG_0086.jpg

Pretty sure this was released around the time the Super anime was first announced.
Still gets a laugh out of me.

Yup, it was in the Super Start Guide.

Here's the full version:

[spoiler][/spoiler]

[Miracles]

sadly the manga still have the bullshit Beerus causing a split timeline,but I agree with the manga fixing the time paradox from zamasu origin,I'm hoping to see a chapter on how zamasu was so successful Frome switching bodies with Goku and fleeing from the timeline

What do you mean Beerus creating a timeline as nonsense?

[The gr]

sadly the manga still have the bullshit Beerus causing a split timeline,but I agree with the manga fixing the time paradox from zamasu origin,I'm hoping to see a chapter on how zamasu was so successful Frome switching bodies with Goku and fleeing from the timeline

What do you mean Beerus creating a timeline as nonsense?

Because Beerus did nothing related to time travel to cause a split timeline,is just doesn't make any sense

[Jinzoningen MULE]

sadly the manga still have the bullshit Beerus causing a split timeline,but I agree with the manga fixing the time paradox from zamasu origin,I'm hoping to see a chapter on how zamasu was so successful Frome switching bodies with Goku and fleeing from the timeline

What do you mean Beerus creating a timeline as nonsense?

A lot of us talked it out a little over a month ago, and there are two camps. One says that the act of time travel itself creates timelines, the others say that actions performed after the fact are what cause splits. If you believe the former, Beerus creating another timeline by erasing Goku Black's past still doesn't hold up even in the manga, since events never could have lead to that conclusion without a split in the first place.

[Basako]

sadly the manga still have the bullshit Beerus causing a split timeline,but I agree with the manga fixing the time paradox from zamasu origin,I'm hoping to see a chapter on how zamasu was so successful Frome switching bodies with Goku and fleeing from the timeline

What do you mean Beerus creating a timeline as nonsense?

A lot of us talked it out a little over a month ago, and there are two camps. One says that the act of time travel itself creates timelines, the others say that actions performed after the fact are what cause splits. If you believe the former, Beerus creating another timeline by erasing Goku Black's past still doesn't hold up even in the manga, since events never could have lead to that conclusion without a split in the first place.

The thing is, we got the answer last chapter. It wasn't what I expected, but we know now that only the time travel isn't enough for a split, but a relevant event must happen. During the previous chapters, while Trunks was already interfering in the timeline, we saw five rings, they became six only after Beerus killed Zamasu.

In some extent, event overlap in a timeline is possible, until a relevant event happens for a split. So we aren't sure how many splits happened in the Cell arc. At least one and maximum of two more, considering the number of rings and that one unrelated split happened in U12 long before.

[Nejishiki]

Because Beerus did nothing related to time travel to cause a split timeline,is just doesn't make any sense

Beerus destroyed Zamasu, who affected time as Goku Black. While time was severed by the Hakaishin, he isn't required to be a time traveler to split a time traveler's actions. In Beerus' present, he's responsible for sectioning away Goku's fate. If that's consistent, then the Zamasu of 1000 years will be the only travel acknowledged in their present.