The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by RandomGuy96 » Wed Feb 26, 2014 6:03 pm

Oh. Missed that.

Yet despite being completely engulfed and blown apart, he regenerated. I don't think it would work unless Buu has already been weakened. And even then, he must pull it off quickly, or else Buu will be good as new a few seconds later.
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Post by Kamiccolo9 » Wed Feb 26, 2014 6:04 pm

RandomGuy96 wrote:I think Buu would survive it. He's not THAT tiny that a blast that only destroyed Cell's torso/Fat Buu's stomach would kill him. A little bit of him would survive. Then he'd just regenerate.

It might not even matter if it does completely engulf him. Kamehamehas should explode on contact, and blowing Buu up won't kill him unless you've hit him with a LOT of powerful physical attacks beforehand and haven't given him any time to catch his breath.
I'm pretty sure that Gohan's Kamehameha against Cell didn't explode on impact. Or if it did, then the explosion was still strong enough to destroy every last cell. A Kamehameha of sufficient power and size should be enough to get rid of Buu, assuming that Goku was capable of pulling one off.
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Post by Polyphase Avatron » Wed Feb 26, 2014 9:06 pm

Buu could spread pieces of himself around before being hit so he can still regenerate
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Post by TheGmGoken » Wed Feb 26, 2014 10:14 pm

I remember last year I made some Anime vs Manga characters in this vs thread. Do anyone think someone in the MANGA is stronger than their anime counterpart?

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Post by Kaboom » Wed Feb 26, 2014 10:21 pm

Super Vegetto, because in the anime Boo actually made him struggle at some point.
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Post by cesarcoronel07 » Thu Feb 27, 2014 12:15 am

I think this one is already done but, how about Pan Vs. Dr. Gero... She did manage to hold him and Dr. Gero couldn't scape. Also, Gero stated she had incredible power for a little girl :think:

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Post by RandomGuy96 » Thu Feb 27, 2014 2:25 am

Kaboom wrote:Super Vegetto, because in the anime Boo actually made him struggle at some point.
Or Buu was just stronger.
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dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.
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Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.

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Post by Kid Buu » Thu Feb 27, 2014 3:08 am

Piccolo Vs Kami at the 23rd Budokai.

Assuming Mr. Popo uses the DB to restore Kami's youth, and Kami doesn't resort to mafuba tactics.
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Post by ZombieVito » Thu Feb 27, 2014 4:44 am

Base Vegetto vs Ultimate Gohan.

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Post by Kid Buu » Thu Feb 27, 2014 5:01 am

Neither, as the narrative shows they are both pointless failures.

Okay in all seriousness, I'd probably say Vegetto. He's composed of two competent fighters while Gohan is rusty.
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Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Thu Feb 27, 2014 6:01 am

Zombie wrote:Base Vegetto vs Ultimate Gohan.
Vegetto wins, easily. Rou Kaioshin was expecting "Gokhan" to be strong enough to beat Gotenks Boo without Super Saiyan (implying that he would fight in normal base, not Ultimate), and since Goku & Vegeta are a better combination than Goku & Gohan, Vegetto should be stronger than "Gokhan", and Ultimate Gohan as well.
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Post by Saiga » Thu Feb 27, 2014 6:15 am

Zombie wrote:Base Vegetto vs Ultimate Gohan.
Base Vegetto has done nothing, and Super Vegetto doesn't need to be 50x stronger than Gohan to beat up Gohan-Boo the way he did. So I don't see any reason to put Vegetto that high, and Gohan would stomp him. Personally I think Vegetto's base form is around the Super Saiyan 2 tier fighters.
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Post by Polyphase Avatron » Thu Feb 27, 2014 8:04 am

Anime base Vegeto wins, manga version never fought and would probably lose.
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Post by MDSTSSJ » Thu Feb 27, 2014 10:43 am

Zombie wrote:Base Vegetto vs Ultimate Gohan.
Base Vegetto wrecks Ultimate Gohan.

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Post by dbgtFO » Thu Feb 27, 2014 11:04 am

Zombie wrote:Base Vegetto vs Ultimate Gohan.
I think Vegetto would beat Gohan rather easily.
All I really could base this on is Buu's immediate reaction to the succesful merger of Goku and Vegeta(as with many things, it's debatable what his reaction really indicates).

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Post by goku the krump dancer » Thu Feb 27, 2014 12:51 pm

In the manga Super Boo sarcastically says "Oh my, I'm so afraid" even after Veggie turns Super Saiyan.. I still base Vegetto beats Gohan though.

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Post by dbzfan7 » Thu Feb 27, 2014 5:39 pm

Zombie wrote:Base Vegetto vs Ultimate Gohan.
Base Vegetto. Gokan in base was said to be enough to beat Gotenks Boo and since Goku and Vegeta are more compatible, so should Vegetto.
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Post by TheGmGoken » Thu Feb 27, 2014 5:41 pm

Base Vegetto vs Kaioken Gokau(Gohaku, Gokhan...whatever his name suppose to be).

How much Kaioken does he needs?

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Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Thu Feb 27, 2014 6:11 pm

TheGmGoken wrote:Base Vegetto vs Kaioken Gokau(Gohaku, Gokhan...whatever his name suppose to be).

How much Kaioken does he needs?
Kaio-ken x2 should be enough. I don't believe there is a huge difference between them.
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Post by xmysticgohanx » Thu Feb 27, 2014 8:39 pm

dbzfan7 wrote:
Zombie wrote:Base Vegetto vs Ultimate Gohan.
Base Vegetto. Gokan in base was said to be enough to beat Gotenks Boo and since Goku and Vegeta are more compatible, so should Vegetto.
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