Viz's Print Edition of the "Full Colour Comics" Discussion

rereboy · Post by **rereboy** » Wed Jan 29, 2014 9:40 pm

Soul wrote:Yeah, isn't Popo's lips censored in the Japanese version as well?

No.

Post by **SaiyaJedi** » Wed Jan 29, 2014 9:47 pm

rereboy wrote:
Soul wrote:Yeah, isn't Popo's lips censored in the Japanese version as well?
No.

Toriyama colored Popo blue on the spine image for the revised Tankōbon release, but that seems to be because he's never consistent with colors, moreso than anything else.

MagicBox · Post by **MagicBox** » Wed Jan 29, 2014 11:35 pm

ShadowDude112 wrote:Oh, title pages? There are ones for chapters 1, 2, and 3. Which is all I've seen so far. Chapter 1 is Raditz, 2 is Goku, Gohan, Chi-Chi, and Gyumao in the car from Zenkai Power, and 3 is Gohan dressed as Son Wukong. I think that's it.

Aww, man. So it is the same as the Japanese release, just without Toriyama's Q&A. We're going to be missing out on a lot of title pages.

It's not a deal-breaker for me, but I wish they (Shueisha AND Viz) would have simply released a physical version of the digital "Full Color" releases. Those had the original title pages and everything.

Thanks a ton for answering my question!

Tanooki Kuribo · Post by **Tanooki Kuribo** » Thu Jan 30, 2014 2:32 am

Hmm, it seems Amazon has put up a "look inside" preview for Vol.1. If you wanna check it out and skim through some pages...

http://www.amazon.com/Dragon-Ball-Full- ... gy_b_img_y

KentalSSJ6 · Post by **KentalSSJ6** » Thu Jan 30, 2014 2:36 am

Tanooki Kuribo wrote:Hmm, it seems Amazon has put up a "look inside" preview for Vol.1. If you wanna check it out and skim through some pages...

http://www.amazon.com/Dragon-Ball-Full- ... gy_b_img_y

At least they changed the font.

rickysha · Post by **rickysha** » Thu Jan 30, 2014 4:37 am

Sorry for going off-topic but the Viz 3-in-1 volumes are bad releases and I should avoid them, right?

Fizzer · Post by **Fizzer** » Thu Jan 30, 2014 9:26 am

"Five years after the events recounted in Dragon Ball", are you fucking kidding me? This release doesn't even have the stupid "Z" slapped on it, surely they could have at least changed that line, to not cock-up the very first panel?

KentalSSJ6 · Post by **KentalSSJ6** » Thu Jan 30, 2014 3:53 pm

Fizzer wrote:"Five years after the events recounted in Dragon Ball", are you fucking kidding me? This release doesn't even have the stupid "Z" slapped on it, surely they could have at least changed that line, to not cock-up the very first panel?

Its supposed to be 3-4 years later right?

Luso Saiyan · Post by **Luso Saiyan** » Thu Jan 30, 2014 4:00 pm

KentalSSJ6 wrote:Its supposed to be 3-4 years later right?

The problem is that this is supposed to be the first volume (since the real issue #1 is not part of this release).

Fizzer · Post by **Fizzer** » Thu Jan 30, 2014 4:26 pm

It's also that these books are called "Dragon Ball" not "Dragon Ball Z". As some people probably know, I dislike the splitting of the manga, and lines like that which are inserted to imply that the story is two separate stories, but those lines are even more annoying when they actually don't belong there anymore.

Luso Saiyan · Post by **Luso Saiyan** » Thu Jan 30, 2014 5:06 pm

Fizzer wrote:It's also that these books are called "Dragon Ball" not "Dragon Ball Z".

My point exactly. It doesn't make sense to say "the events of Dragon Ball - Volume 1", when this is supposed to be the first volume for the average reader.

Duo · Post by **Duo** » Thu Jan 30, 2014 5:21 pm

I pestered VizMedia on their Facebook page about fixing some of their translation issues, and got this in response from them:

"You should also know that we get approval from the author (in this case, Toriyama-sensei) for every translation, so it's completely false to suggest that we are disrespecting the author's wishes."

That cannot possibly be true for Mr. Satan's name change or Boo the Djinn, can it?

Mewzard · Post by **Mewzard** » Thu Jan 30, 2014 5:48 pm

Duo wrote:I pestered VizMedia on their Facebook page about fixing some of their translation issues, and got this in response from them:

"You should also know that we get approval from the author (in this case, Toriyama-sensei) for every translation, so it's completely false to suggest that we are disrespecting the author's wishes."

That cannot possibly be true for Mr. Satan's name change or Boo the Djinn, can it?

I'm going to go with Toriyama not being bothered by some changes that fans take pretty hard. Maybe he was fine with Mr. Satan being changed since Viz did use the name once, and explained the change.

Maybe some changes he just didn't remember, or liked.

Luso Saiyan · Post by **Luso Saiyan** » Thu Jan 30, 2014 5:49 pm

Duo wrote:That cannot possibly be true for Mr. Satan's name change or Boo the Djinn, can it?

It can, if he doesn't mind.

rereboy · Post by **rereboy** » Thu Jan 30, 2014 5:50 pm

You actually think those changes bother Toriyama in the slightest or at least enough to actually tell them "no"?

Also, Djinn is perfectly valid and correct for "majin", as it has been discussed and stated many times, including by Herms.

Makaioshin · Post by **Makaioshin** » Thu Jan 30, 2014 5:56 pm

Duo wrote:I pestered VizMedia on their Facebook page about fixing some of their translation issues, and got this in response from them:

"You should also know that we get approval from the author (in this case, Toriyama-sensei) for every translation, so it's completely false to suggest that we are disrespecting the author's wishes."

That cannot possibly be true for Mr. Satan's name change or Boo the Djinn, can it?

At best I assume someone at Shueshia went over it and Toriyama signed his name somewhere. It is still a solid translation overall.

And I still think it would be cool if we could get them to change the censored name to Mark.

linkdude20002001 · Post by **linkdude20002001** » Thu Jan 30, 2014 5:57 pm

"Boo the Djinn" isn't really a change, though, and I'm fine with it. The problem I have is with lines like "Five years after the events recounted in 'Dragon Ball'..." and everyone's inconsistent dialogue (especially Piccolo's and Chichi's).

AgitoZ · Post by **AgitoZ** » Thu Jan 30, 2014 6:19 pm

Even if Toriyama was against it artistically there is still no way he wouldn't do it. It's not like Viz goes asking authors, "May way please change your precious creative vision?" It more than likely it goes along the line of, "if you don't allow us to change this your books will earn less money." That's all that it comes down to, right? Most changes (especially for DB) would have been done to reach a wider audience.

Baggie_Saiyan · Post by **Baggie_Saiyan** » Thu Jan 30, 2014 6:19 pm

Do you think Viz is going to release the entire portion of Z, then hopefully go back and do the first half? If, so odds of it being completed in about years time (the Z portion anyway)?.

Post by **TheDevilsCorpse** » Thu Jan 30, 2014 6:34 pm

linkdude20002001 wrote:The problem I have is with lines like "Five years after the events recounted in 'Dragon Ball'...".

For the US, it mostly works though. The events in "Dragon Ball" not are in "Dragon Ball Z", nor are they a part of "Dragon Ball Full Color" for the time being. The only real argument to be made for that line being redundant is in the 3-in-1 editions.

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