Would you mind if Toriyama ditches the Final Chapter & Uub
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Re: Would you mind if Toriyama ditches the Final Chapter & U
I feel he's going to change EoZ. I can see him discarding some characters like Bra, changing some characterizations, nerfing Gohan (he was mystic in EoZ), and buffing Uub.
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Re: Would you mind if Toriyama ditches the Final Chapter & U
Well, Z and manga also happen in different universes.Lord Beerus wrote:Alternate universes technically already exists in Dragon Ball. GT and all of the movies excluding BOG and FnF take place in an alternate DB Universe.EXBadguy wrote:I'm telling ya, I'm so glad DB ended. I love it, but I don't want it to drag on. If anything, make an alternate universe or something.
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Re: Would you mind if Toriyama ditches the Final Chapter & U
Same goes for Bulla & Goten, both didn't have their personalities defined in greater detail. Adult Trunks is bound by Future-Trunks in some way so there's not that much room to go.Neon Z wrote:I hope we go post end of Z just because I'd like to see the show introducing new warriors again. Aside from Uub, there's also Pan, who could get a boost to relevancy through Super Saiyan God, I guess. Toriyama also pretty much would be able to take their character in any direction, considering how they'd be pretty much blank slates aside from gender and some basic design traits.
He also could use some amount of time passing after the end of Z to redesign everyone again if he wasn't happy with how they looked there. He already made everyone look younger than they should here anyway.
Anyway, I don't think Uub would even need to take the role of main hero. Just being a powerhouse around Goku's and now Vegeta's power would change dynamics quite a bit, even if he doesn't finish off the villain.
Alternatively though, all that could be achieved by featuring the clash of two universes in the next movie, with the best warriors of that other universe fighting on Goku's or Vegeta's level.
I wouldn't like another round of redesigns though. These characters look similar enough, Toriyama needs to pick iconic style for each and stick with it, like with Goku, Vegeta & Trunks. Gohan went through way too many hairstyle changes, people were guessing who was on ROF poster when it was first revealed. If that doesn't spell bad character design (to the point of multiple characters becoming interchangable) then I don't know what. And yeah, no going around Uub's role.
I wouldn't mind new post-EOZ anime/movies/manga at all. There's some nice stuff in GT I like but overall the series is nothing I would cry over if it was replaced by something else.
Re: Would you mind if Toriyama ditches the Final Chapter & U
Why not? Not like the last 2 chapters did anything ground-breaking. Never liked Uub anyways.
Plus I think Toriyama just did the EoZ thing to conclude it by showing Goku go on another adventure after 10 years of peace. Basically in his mind at that time he was done with DBZ.
Plus I think Toriyama just did the EoZ thing to conclude it by showing Goku go on another adventure after 10 years of peace. Basically in his mind at that time he was done with DBZ.
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Re: Would you mind if Toriyama ditches the Final Chapter & U
I could see Uub being the new Gohan arctype working better for him. Have him trying to unlock his Majin powers but control them for the use of good. He could even potentially become a god or something parallel to pure evil.Basaku wrote:Anyway, I don't think Uub would even need to take the role of main hero. Just being a powerhouse around Goku's and now Vegeta's power would change dynamics quite a bit, even if he doesn't finish off the villain.
Couldn't care less about them. I'd rather they retire to lessen the Saiyan supremacy bias.Basaku wrote:Same goes for Bulla & Goten, both didn't have their personalities defined in greater detail. Adult Trunks is bound by Future-Trunks in some way so there's not that much room to go.
Indeed, he needs to define new styles for the characters and stay away from GT's artstyleof the urban grundge type look.Basaku wrote:I wouldn't like another round of redesigns though. These characters look similar enough, Toriyama needs to pick iconic style for each and stick with it, like with Goku, Vegeta & Trunks. Gohan went through way too many hairstyle changes, people were guessing who was on ROF poster when it was first revealed. If that doesn't spell bad character design (to the point of multiple characters becoming interchangable) then I don't know what. And yeah, no going around Uub's role.
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Re: Would you mind if Toriyama ditches the Final Chapter & U
May be time to revisit this topic.
Any more or less likely that this happens now in your opinions?
Any more or less likely that this happens now in your opinions?
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Re: Would you mind if Toriyama ditches the Final Chapter & U
The longer they stay in this ten year span and have new adventures, the more concerned I get.
At least Kai is seemingly going to include the 28th Budoukai, and Super is going to start airing the week after that.
At least Kai is seemingly going to include the 28th Budoukai, and Super is going to start airing the week after that.
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Re: Would you mind if Toriyama ditches the Final Chapter & U
Yeah, I wouldn't freak out, but it would still bother me. I'd rather see something like, Goku is gone with Oob for a few months and due to some circumstance they had to return home and they finish their training there maybe with some of the other Z-Warriors.
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Re: Would you mind if Toriyama ditches the Final Chapter & U
If the new series takes place in the ten year gap, then I'm even more worried about if this is being ditched, yeah. Already though, I think it's safe to say that a soft retcon has happened, because the ten years being peaceful...well... 
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Re: Would you mind if Toriyama ditches the Final Chapter & U
I think it's less likely based on the fact that Kai is keeping the EoZ. If DBS wasn't going to follow EoZ I feel they would just cut it off after they beat Buu.Analytical Delusion wrote:May be time to revisit this topic.
Any more or less likely that this happens now in your opinions?







