So what exactly is this SSGSS?

[Berserker1921]

Spoilers!!!!!!!

This is the form for goku



Jusr color swapping. Akria was like genius haha. Saves me time creating an original and creative form.

Yes, because fans never re-colour transformations themselves and pass them off as unique. Many people wanted this to be SSJ God:

Spoiler:

Now tell me, what's the difference between that and SSJ4?

Hey they did make his hair longer :p haha

[Basaku]

Yes, because fans never re-colour transformations themselves and pass them off as unique. Many people wanted this to be SSJ God:

Spoiler:

Now tell me, what's the difference between that and SSJ4?

SSJ4 has body furr and thus even a simple recolor changes the look of the entire character completly. And I'm gonna bring my favourite argument - manga black & white format. Golden SSJ and Cyan SSJ will look exactly the same in that format. These are on the same grayscale. Black SSJ4/Golden SSJ4 would be unmisteakable. Plus, with a design like SSJ4 that is heavy on its own, it is actually appropirate to use simple changes for next-level power-up. Golden SSJ/base Goku form design ain't heavy, hence they require more changes to make them distinct.

[Lord Beerus]

Yes, because fans never re-colour transformations themselves and pass them off as unique. Many people wanted this to be SSJ God:

Spoiler:

Now tell me, what's the difference between that and SSJ4?

SSJ4 has body furr and thus even a simple recolor changes the look of the entire character completly. And I'm gonna bring my favourite argument - manga black & white format. Golden SSJ and Cyan SSJ will look exactly the same in that format. These are on the same grayscale. Black SSJ4/Golden SSJ4 would be unmisteakable. Plus, with a design like SSJ4 that is heavy on its own, it is actually appropirate to use simple changes for next-level power-up. Golden SSJ/base Goku form design ain't heavy, hence they require more changes to make them distinct.

But it doesn't change the fact that it's SSJ4 with golden colour change. The manga black & white format retort doesn't count for anything because not every design follows that format.

[FortuneSSJ]

I love the new form but i think it came out too soon.
We already had ssjg in BOG and now we have mssjg right away in FNF. They can make good movies without using more news forms.

[Bullza]

That Gold SSJ4 looks really good actually, it'd have been so much better than what we officially got and more inline with previous transformations too.

[Dyno]

Actually we have an official golden Super Saiyan 4.

[Basaku]

But it doesn't change the fact that it's SSJ4 with golden colour change. The manga black & white format retort doesn't count for anything because not every design follows that format.

Heavy color change from one end of grayscale to another on a heavy design that applies to majority of the character's look (instead of just head like in other cases). Not to mention that the chosen color fits and brings multiple lore characteristics of the Saiyan race into the overall look even better than SSJ4. Between a thin magneta haired guy and a bulky golden ape-man, which one do you honestly think is more fitting for a Saiyan God legend/position?

Actually we have an official golden Super Saiyan 4.

We do?

[Barunks]

Blue Super Saiyan God + Super Saiyan 4 = Super Saiyan 5. Think about it.

[Dyno]

We do?

Yes.

[Berserker1921]

Blue Super Saiyan God + Super Saiyan 4 = Super Saiyan 5. Think about it.

Technically it is ssj5 and the first version was ssj4. But I like this one cause it's simple and powerful. See a god idea is a simple yet incomprehensible. Which this form explains it. Simple in design and incompressible in power

[Barunks]

Blue Super Saiyan God + Super Saiyan 4 = Super Saiyan 5. Think about it.

Technically it is ssj5 and the first version was ssj4.

If we actually sat down and numbered every super saiyan form in the manga alone I'm pretty sure it would technically be ssj8 or so.

[Berserker1921]

Blue Super Saiyan God + Super Saiyan 4 = Super Saiyan 5. Think about it.

Technically it is ssj5 and the first version was ssj4.

If we actually sat down and numbered every super saiyan form in the manga alone I'm pretty sure it would technically be ssj8 or so.

I mean in actually change. When I mean that I mean hair haha. Think ssj= yellow. ssj2= super spikey. Ssj3= long hair and no eye brows. Ssj god = thinner, darker skin, younger, and red hair. And mssjg= blue spikey hair. Lol

[Bullza]

Actually we have an official golden Super Saiyan 4.

Let me guess, Dragon Ball Heroes?

[Dyno]

Let me guess, Dragon Ball Heroes?

Guessed wrong. By Katsuyoshi Nakatsuru himself. He drew a golden Super Saiyan 4, I just wanted to have his version in hands, which I bet all my life is way better than fans' versions.

[Bullza]

Why does him just drawing a picture make it official if it hasn't even appeared in an actual Dragon Ball product?

[Dyno]

It makes it official simply because it's not a fanart. And... For the same reason we didn't see King Vegeta's sheet for Movie 14.

[Baggie_Saiyan]

That Gold SSJ4 looks really good actually, it'd have been so much better than what we officially got and more inline with previous transformations too.

Yeah, I completely agree, the random red fur never made sense at all especially since the Oozaru/Great Ape was gold beforehand. But having said that I still like it only on Goku though, it looks really horrible on Vegeta.

[Bullza]

It makes it official simply because it's not a fanart. And... For the same reason we didn't see King Vegeta's sheet for Movie 14.

If it's just a drawing he did and it never actually ties in to an official product then it's not official.

[Kaboom]

We do?

Yes.

Spoiler: He was asking you to elaborate.

[johnboy1]

We do?

Yes.

Spoiler: He was asking you to elaborate.

The thing is, I think he was well aware of that when he responded.