Gohan's role/usage in "Dragon Ball Super"

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Re: Gohan's role/usage in "Dragon Ball Super"

Post by Lord Beerus » Mon Jul 04, 2016 5:12 pm

ekrolo2 wrote:It's really hard to get five people together and hold hands for a 10 minute long power up sequence you guys. Give poor Gohan some slack FFS.
Gohan juts has to give Whis a food he's never heard of and he'll become Gohan's new best friend and train him. And then in about 10 months he'll become Ultimate Mystic Super Saiyan Blue and sneeze Goku Black into the sun.

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Re: Gohan's role/usage in "Dragon Ball Super"

Post by ekrolo2 » Mon Jul 04, 2016 5:15 pm

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ekrolo2 wrote:It's really hard to get five people together and hold hands for a 10 minute long power up sequence you guys. Give poor Gohan some slack FFS.
Gohan juts has to give Whis a food he's never heard of and he'll become Gohan's new best friend and train him. And then in about 10 months he'll become Ultimate Mystic Super Saiyan Blue and sneeze Goku Black into the sun.
Implying Goku and Vegeta can't do that to Black already :P
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Re: Gohan's role/usage in "Dragon Ball Super"

Post by Lord Beerus » Mon Jul 04, 2016 5:19 pm

ekrolo2 wrote:
Lord Beerus wrote:
ekrolo2 wrote:It's really hard to get five people together and hold hands for a 10 minute long power up sequence you guys. Give poor Gohan some slack FFS.
Gohan juts has to give Whis a food he's never heard of and he'll become Gohan's new best friend and train him. And then in about 10 months he'll become Ultimate Mystic Super Saiyan Blue and sneeze Goku Black into the sun.
Implying Goku and Vegeta can't do that to Black already :P
Fuck, you got there. :lol:

Goku and Goku Black were so "I'm not left handed" when they fought each other. At this stage, I just wanna know who the hell Goku Black really is.

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Re: Gohan's role/usage in "Dragon Ball Super"

Post by nite_jay » Mon Jul 04, 2016 5:32 pm

It shouldn't be too hard to make Gohan strong again. He already jumped past everybody in one day during the Cell Games with the ROSAT and SSJ2. If he were to train in there for like a week and do the SSJ God ritual than he'd be at least comparable to Goku and Vegeta.

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Re: Gohan's role/usage in "Dragon Ball Super"

Post by precita » Mon Jul 04, 2016 5:48 pm

What's odd is you think TOEI would want to sell more merchandize of Super Saiyan Blue, and Gohan is really the only other character they can do it with.

Won't happen with Future Trunks because his hair is already blue (lol), so Gohan is the only other candidate.

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Post by HeroR » Mon Jul 04, 2016 5:54 pm

precita wrote:What's odd is you think TOEI would want to sell more merchandize of Super Saiyan Blue, and Gohan is really the only other character they can do it with.

Won't happen with Future Trunks because his hair is already blue (lol), so Gohan is the only other candidate.
That is because at the end of the day, Toriyama is writing the story. If he doesn't want or feel that Gohan should have Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan, he won't get it, just like Vegeta officially never got Super Saiyan 3 or Super Saiyan God. Besides, if Toei wants Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan Gohan so badly, they can put him in Heroes. They've already gave everyone Super Saiyan 3 and now working their way through Super Saiyan 4.
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precita wrote:Goku will still be around but take a Buu saga approach backseat.
Goku barely took a backseat in the Buu saga, at best he took a leisurely stroll round back while everyone else cried for him to come back.

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Re: Gohan's role/usage in "Dragon Ball Super"

Post by Hero » Mon Jul 04, 2016 7:49 pm

Gohan is in Dragon Ball Super?

In all seriousness, though, they can pull of a three way show with Goku, Vegeta and Gohan if they wanted, but they don't want to.

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Re: Gohan's role/usage in "Dragon Ball Super"

Post by Kagari » Mon Jul 04, 2016 9:10 pm

Hero wrote:Gohan is in Dragon Ball Super?

In all seriousness, though, they can pull of a three way show with Goku, Vegeta and Gohan if they wanted, but they don't want to.
You mean like they did during most, if not all of Z? Hmm...

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Re: Gohan's role/usage in "Dragon Ball Super"

Post by GodKaio-Ken » Mon Jul 04, 2016 9:27 pm

Lord Beerus wrote:
Goku and Goku Black were so "I'm not left handed" when they fought each other. At this stage, I just wanna know who the hell Goku Black really is.
LOL That would have been the best reference EVER considering it's a show from Japan.

Black throws a Ki blast that Goku can't quite cancel out and Goku laughs:

Black: Why are you laughing?
Goku: I'm not left handed...
Black *smug smile*: Neither am I!
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Re: Gohan's role/usage in "Dragon Ball Super"

Post by dbzfan7 » Mon Jul 04, 2016 9:29 pm

GodKaio-Ken wrote:
Lord Beerus wrote:
Goku and Goku Black were so "I'm not left handed" when they fought each other. At this stage, I just wanna know who the hell Goku Black really is.
LOL That would have been the best reference EVER considering it's a show from Japan.

Black throws a Ki blast that Goku can't quite cancel out and Goku laughs:

Black: Why are you laughing?
Goku: I'm not left handed...
Black *smug smile*: Neither am I!
They then make out and announce their love each other.....what....that dialogue had a lot of sexual tension.
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Re: Gohan's role/usage in "Dragon Ball Super"

Post by shwin » Tue Jul 05, 2016 3:00 am

Avok wrote:
shwin wrote:Gohan should be relevant but he should not be the strongest IMO.
Why not?
Because whenever he does end up becoming the strongest he ends up wasting all of that power, why give all the power to a guy who frankly, does not really deserve it and ends up wasting it.

Gohan becomes the strongest at the end of the Cell arc but after that does not bother to train. Then Gohan gets his power up in the Buu arc and guess what, he decides not to train again and now look where we are in Super. He had his chance. That is why I am saying he can be relevant but should not be the strongest because it clearly has not worked out.

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Re: Gohan's role/usage in "Dragon Ball Super"

Post by Saikyo no Senshi » Tue Jul 05, 2016 3:44 am

In episode 52 i hope Gohan gets a little bit of screen time yeah thats about it.

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Re: Wtf about Gohan?

Post by dragon ball truth » Thu Jul 07, 2016 9:40 am

Saikyo no Senshi wrote:
PsionicWarrior wrote:
Saikyo no Senshi wrote:Gohan isn't interesting anymore to Toriyama.

- Travis
Can you source this quote please?
From being a character who was pretty much the top guy at the end of Cell arc to a character now whose presence on screen itself has become so rare is enough of a reason for me to believe that either the author isn't interested in him or doesn't know what to do with him.

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I think if toriyama was in full ownership of super and in charge of all the writing, Gohan would be the strongest even now.

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Re: Wtf about Gohan?

Post by ekrolo2 » Thu Jul 07, 2016 9:42 am

dragon ball truth wrote:
I think if toriyama was in full ownership of super and in charge of all the writing, Gohan would be the strongest even now.
Not a chance, Toriyama's the guy who decided to put Gohan in the role of a scholar as he didn't think he was suited for a lead man role like Goku was. If anything, the anime staff are throwing Gohan a bone by having him train again. Toriyama wouldn't give him that.
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Re: Wtf about Gohan?

Post by dragon ball truth » Thu Jul 07, 2016 9:47 am

Kuririn Fan wrote:
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Lord Beerus wrote:There's no need to shoehorn him into the plot if he not going to contribute anything towards its progression just to keep his fanbase happy by having him appear more. That's counter-productive story telling.
Oh I fully agree, but the writing is what creates any needs no? Besides, I'd feel better knowing he's training while in the sidelines, a Saiyajin who doesn't feel the urge of training is what makes no sense IMO, moreover after the Frieza incident, he gave up a bit fast didn't he? All he said about protecting his wife and kid suddenly for nothing.
He also has human blood and doesn't like to fight.
Sir that has nothing to do with human blood, it has a heck of a lot to do with a mom who planned out his life since before he was born and made goku promise to agree to the terms of him being a scholar; gohan never knew he had power til Piccolo trained him, i wonder why that was, because he had been barred from anything near fighting or training since he was born and that was further driven into who his character along the series even in the cell series after the time chamber big showings of the chi chi influence was shown like studying forced on him by his mom and after cell was destroyed and no goku influence you can only imagine how strong chi chis gohan plan went into effect.

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Re: Wtf about Gohan?

Post by namekiansaiyan » Thu Jul 07, 2016 9:51 am

dragon ball truth wrote:
Saikyo no Senshi wrote:
PsionicWarrior wrote:
Can you source this quote please?
From being a character who was pretty much the top guy at the end of Cell arc to a character now whose presence on screen itself has become so rare is enough of a reason for me to believe that either the author isn't interested in him or doesn't know what to do with him.

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I think if toriyama was in full ownership of super and in charge of all the writing, Gohan would be the strongest even now.
He writes the story so it is up to him and he basically said no to Gohan being that strong as of right now.

He is going the way of most other characters in the series
and most people believe he should be the strongest becuase he was for a long time due to the huge gap between Dragon Ball Super and Dragon Ball Z Tv animes which was almost 20 years. If Super happend 20 years ago they would not be complaing about Gohan not being strong in 2016.

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Re: Wtf about Gohan?

Post by dragon ball truth » Thu Jul 07, 2016 9:53 am

Kuririn Fan wrote:He likes to fight for justice as superhero or whatever, but when he is forced to fight - he doesn't want to, he needs the rage factor.
Doesnt want to fight but shows up for every fight and every arch in the series to fight, the rage only adds to how deep he goes into fighting, i ask again prove that in any way without Freeza's influence that saiyans wouldve ever been fighters

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Re: Wtf about Gohan?

Post by dragon ball truth » Thu Jul 07, 2016 10:02 am

namekiansaiyan wrote:
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namekiansaiyan wrote:The way Dragon ball is now, Gohan's character does not fit. Gohan is useless unless he is the strongest and is not good at progressing the story like Piccolo, Jaco and Bulma as his main characteristic is being a nerd. Gohan was never the 'main' focus and is now in the same group as Krillin for relevancy and nothing indicates that will change. Gohan fans only like him because of what he did to Cell but before that no one really cared about him and thats what I don't get about Gohan fans and that is they live of 1 moment and also maybe him fighting against Buu. The point is that people have liked Goku, Vegeta, Piccolo, Krillin and the rest since they were first introduced so they should be concerned what happens to them as Gohan is a 1 hit wonder.
He was a pretty big focus for most of Z actually. And no he doesn't have to be the strongest to be relevant because that only happened twice and all the other times he was there doing plenty of other things.
He does not bring anything unique because of him being 'normal'. He did nothing during in the Android/Cell arc until figjting Cell. He only did stuff on Namek because of Piccolo saved him and sacrificing himself along with everyone else fighting for him.. On the Buu arc it was the start of him being a Joke and being a nerd and he is now worse than Yamcha and he is replacing Yamcha as the Joke across the internet. Most of his fighting came from anger and he has now lost it so it will be harder for him to be relevant. Piccolo, Jaco and Bulma can provide support amd Gohan can't unless he is really strong.
He did nothing ofcourse because his power was still under picollos whos life he saved when android 20 was draining his energy, he did things on namek for everyone, and why did goku go to namek anyway? Moot point kid along with the rest of your post.

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Re: Wtf about Gohan?

Post by dragon ball truth » Thu Jul 07, 2016 10:10 am

Shinomori wrote:While I don't like how Gohan turned out, I can't argue against it too much. He was introduced as non-fighter with a lot of hidden power. He's now a family man and enjoys it. At one point he wasn't even sure if he could transform into a super saiyan. That is how much he put his fighting days aside. So at this point my thinking is to let him be when it comes to fighting.

Even though it's not portrayed in the series and not a thing, I can't help but feel sorry for Goku however. He had two sons, and both could care less about fighting. Goku needs to gather the dragon balls and wish for the restoration of the saiyan race. That way he can secretly find himself a saiyan woman, and have a child that is worthy to inherit his fighting ways. :lol:
Yet who he really was reared its ugly head when the time came, and chi chi wasnt on his back.

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Re: Wtf about Gohan?

Post by dragon ball truth » Thu Jul 07, 2016 10:16 am

namekiansaiyan wrote:
dragon ball truth wrote:
Saikyo no Senshi wrote: From being a character who was pretty much the top guy at the end of Cell arc to a character now whose presence on screen itself has become so rare is enough of a reason for me to believe that either the author isn't interested in him or doesn't know what to do with him.

- Travis
I think if toriyama was in full ownership of super and in charge of all the writing, Gohan would be the strongest even now.
He writes the story so it is up to him and he basically said no to Gohan being that strong as of right now.

He is going the way of most other characters in the series
and most people believe he should be the strongest becuase he was for a long time due to the huge gap between Dragon Ball Super and Dragon Ball Z Tv animes which was almost 20 years. If Super happend 20 years ago they would not be complaing about Gohan not being strong in 2016.
He writes nothing without toei's ok, toei owns dragon ball not toriyama

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