DBZ vs DBS - Animation [Comparing Objectively]

[Lujin_16]

While i still don't like Super, it is mostly because of story and childish characters, animation isn't Toei fault, watching Crystal and Maho Precure, Toei can make really great animation, if it isn't binded by tight schedule

Someone has not seen Dragonball Super goes back to the roots my friend and i like the mix of comedy and seriousness...And what is wrong with the story???

is not like the Cell saga and Boo saga the same concept a villain comes to earth to destroy everything..The future trunks arc is different maybe a little bit complicated but

it is something new and mysterious i mean we still do not know who Black Goku is

Story is one big fanfiction (Freeza coming back, and is able to gain God level tier in just 4 months, Future Trunks coming back) i like comedy, but Akira Toriyama comedy, not Toei comedy, with make characters unlikeable jerks or childish caricatures. I prefer manga, but anime still have place in my heart. We are 50 episodes in, and i have yet to feel same chill and excitement i had during DB/DBZ/DBGT moments.

let forget about the retellings super starts at episode 28 for me...You are really wrong when you think it is not akira's comedy it is but oke is your opinion

[HybridSaiyan]

The thing is, I believe Super can look terrific if they only used the same colors as Yo Goku and his friends return.
The characters actually look like themselves during the Z era. I'm such a huge fan of the style of the OVA, that Super just doesn't compare in the least in terms of art.

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They had more of a better schedule and more planning time, but damn. Super could just try and measure up since it's freaking dragon ball lol.

[sintzu]

The thing is, I believe Super can look terrific if they only used the same colors as Yo Goku and his friends return.
The characters actually look like themselves during the Z era. I'm such a huge fan of the style of the OVA, that Super just doesn't compare in the least in terms of art.

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They had more of a better schedule and more planning time, but damn. Super could just try and measure up since it's freaking dragon ball lol.

Super would be a masterpiece if it looked like that.

That's a one time OVA and this is on going so I know there would still be mistakes but just having that art style would help a lot but instead we're stuck with Toriyama's "modern" designs and Toei's ultra cheap tech.

[Neo-Makaiōshin]

Super would be a masterpiece if it looked like that.

That's a one time OVA and this is on going so I know there would still be mistakes but just having that art style would help a lot but instead we're stuck with Toriyama's "modern" designs and Toei's ultra cheap tech.

Could you define what´s this cheap tech you´re referring to? The anime art should be blamed more on Tadayoshi Yamamuro rather than Toriyama since the former has more direct impact on how the characters are designed and looked in the anime, Toriyama may have infulence with his current modern art but Yamamuro is the one deciding whether or not stickying to those designs.

[sintzu]

Could you define what´s this cheap tech you´re referring to ?

The anime art should be blamed more on Tadayoshi Yamamuro rather than Toriyama.

Whatever Toei is using to animate Super.

I know Toriyama isn't to blame, I'm blaming whoever thought it was a good idea to use this fan made quality style they're currently using.

[Ajay]

Whatever Toei is using to animate Super.

I know Toriyama isn't to blame, I'm blaming whoever thought it was a good idea to use this fan made quality style they're currently using.

Pencil and paper like any other studio, which is then scanned and digitised via RETAS! PRO.

The quality of the art depends primarily on the skill of the animators and the time they're given. In Super's case, there's not a lot of time for the talents to do a good job, sadly.

In terms of the way characters are drawn -- even when on-model -- that's on Yamamuro. If it's to do with the colours and overall visual look of the series, that's mostly on the colour designers, though directors do get a say to an extent.

[saiyanvegetable]

The thing is, I believe Super can look terrific if they only used the same colors as Yo Goku and his friends return.
The characters actually look like themselves during the Z era. I'm such a huge fan of the style of the OVA, that Super just doesn't compare in the least in terms of art.

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They had more of a better schedule and more planning time, but damn. Super could just try and measure up since it's freaking dragon ball lol.

I agree, the only thing i hate is that ugly mustard colored super saiyan hair. I really miss that almost white, lightly yellow color for Super Saiyans that Z had. But tbh, even though it'd be pretty they still have a lot of work ol do on the script because as of now its garbage.

I know a lot people seem to ignore you for some reasons idk...

It's because no one can have a decent discussion with him without having him exaggeratedly bash Super to the point of exhaustion. No one likes to talk with a whiner.

Do you not see that gigantic wall of text? How is anyone supposed to read that without having their eyes bleed? I'm not a grammar nazi, but shit the guy could have indented his paragraphs just a tad .

[Neo-Makaiōshin]

Do you not see that gigantic wall of text? How is anyone supposed to read that without having their eyes bleed? I'm not a grammar nazi, but shit the guy could have indented his paragraphs just a tad .

What´s wrong with gigantic wall of texts? He/she was backing up his/her arguments and going into detail as to why he/she feels that way, it encourages discussion, the productive type of discussion, there was no reason to dismiss him/her for doing so.

[saiyanvegetable]

Do you not see that gigantic wall of text? How is anyone supposed to read that without having their eyes bleed? I'm not a grammar nazi, but shit the guy could have indented his paragraphs just a tad .

What´s wrong with gigantic wall of texts? He/she was backing up his/her arguments and going into detail as to why he/she feels that way, it encourages discussion, the productive type of discussion, there was no reason to dismiss him/her for doing so.

Its unreadable. I'm all for essays, but use paragraphs. All I'm saiyan.

[sintzu]

I really miss that almost white, lightly yellow color for Super Saiyans that Z had.

You might not miss it for long :

"In the Battle of Gods, it was red, so I figured for 'Revival of F' I should go with blue. Well, actually I was thinking about having it white, but then it would color crash with the next enemy, so I figured I should save it for another occasion"

[HybridSaiyan]

It's just a real pity it couldn't have been that way. It had so much damn potential to look visually stunning, and really dig deep into capturing the characters designs. The Vegeta in the OVA looks just like Z Vegeta but drawn digitally, same with Goku and the rest of the cast. The colors match the designs so damn well and even the fighting is nicely done. I'm a big fan of the SSJ form they use for the characters as well, the golden hair really shines bright. It baffles me they didn't follow in this OVA's footsteps.

[Ajay]

Here's some fun facts about the OVA:

While several characters were given new designs drawn up by Yamamuro, a large majority simply reused the designs drawn up back during the Cell and Boo arc. That's why many characters are seemingly unchanged from the last time you saw them.

I believe this OVA marked the last time the colour designer for Dragon Ball and Z worked on the series. After that, they were replaced and the current colour scheme we have today was born. What you see in the OVA is apparently what Z's colour designer felt was the best choice for a modern take on the series' colours.

The OVA contained animation from just about every single top-tier animator who once worked on Z. It's a really special case where veterans of the franchise got to just kick back and draw nostalgically. While it's certainly not a super impressive special by any means, you can definitely feel the love behind the work.

[HybridSaiyan]

Here's some fun facts about the OVA:

While several characters were given new designs drawn up by Yamamuro, a large majority simply reused the designs drawn up back during the Cell and Boo arc. That's why many characters are seemingly unchanged from the last time you saw them.

I believe this OVA marked the last time the colour designer for Dragon Ball and Z worked on the series. After that, they were replaced and the current colour scheme we have today was born. What you see in the OVA is apparently what Z's colour designer felt was the best choice for a modern take on the series' colours.

The OVA contained animation from just about every single top-tier animator who once worked on Z. It's a really special case where veterans of the franchise got to just kick back and draw nostalgically. While it's certainly not a super impressive special by any means, you can definitely feel the love behind the work.

Ah, so this is mainly why it looks strikingly similar to Z? All the pro's were all working together on it? That's super interesting! If only they all got together for Super lol.

[cuartas]

Ejem...

[HybridSaiyan]

Ejem...

That shit looks sexy!

[Bansho64]

Those look like the orange brick colors.

[z_cherub]

Ejem...

I love you

[nite_jay]

Those colors are too saturated for my tastes.

[MCDaveG]

Ejem...

That shit looks sexy!

Yes, that's it!!! Too dark and light respectively, but miles better then pureness of the digital!

[Yomi]

That just shows a difference in texture. Since old DB's lines had a lot of texture, combined with the graininess, it gives the illusion of more detail.
They should have really considered that when animating the series. Now that the lines are smooth, it looks a lot flatter.