Live Action Movie Discussion Thread

Castor Troy · Post by **Castor Troy** » Sun Sep 02, 2007 6:22 pm

Maybe it'll be in CG, but shot with motion actors for the precise movements.

*prays*

Alice · Post by **Alice** » Sun Sep 02, 2007 6:28 pm

Wouldn't this be hell to cast, though, if it was done as condensed sagas? You'd have to get some really good look alikes to do the age fast-forwards.

Sleven · Post by **Sleven** » Sun Sep 02, 2007 6:36 pm

Kung Fu Hustle

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOiPJLvQ6WU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wTJi3b1yMl8

Shaolin Soccer

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EK0rslKCa2c

Just a few choice clips for those of you still unsure of Hollywood's ability to pull of a live action adaptation of Dragon Ball; most noteably, the questions of special effects.

Ah, I love this movies...

KinoFourpaws · Post by **KinoFourpaws** » Sun Sep 02, 2007 6:38 pm

Sleven wrote:Kung Fu Hustle

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOiPJLvQ6WU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wTJi3b1yMl8

Shaolin Soccer

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EK0rslKCa2c

Just a few choice clips for those of you still unsure of Hollywoods ability to pull of a live action adaptation of Dragon Ball; most noteably, the questions of special effects.

Oh, we've already got that covered. A $100,000,000 budget? That'll probably take care of it for sure.

(Also, refer to my signature.

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BlueSky · Post by **Kaboom** » Sun Sep 02, 2007 9:17 pm

I'll say it again...

I'm not a picky or easily upset person. Don't let the joker persona I usually have fool you; I'm very reasonable and logical about things, even and especially with the things I like or make my hobbies.

So I realize that when making movies out of things like comic books and cartoons, things often need to be changed and adapted, sometimes in direct contrast to their original material, in order to make a good overall movie. Because I realize such, I was and am able to deeply enjoy such movies, especially, to be specific, Spider-Man and Transformers (I will completely ignore and disregard any and all bashing of Transformers, as it's ridiculous. The cartoon was very well-represented, the acting was great, the transformers themselves were awesome both visually and in character, and the amount of humans DID NOT overshadow the Transformers. My theater got it bumped over to us this weekend, and I almost got in trouble from spending too much time in its theater watching it a couple minutes at a time. It's a good, if not great, movie, and anyone who thinks or says otherwise is just flat-out being overly anal and unappreciative. I mean, c'mon, Transformers fans, they even got freakin' Peter Cullen to voice Prime! What MORE do you people want?!).

As such, when the DragonBall Z movie comes out, I know at least I will be able to enjoy it. I'd deeply encourage as many of you as possible to at least try to adopt a similar attitude. This movie will likely be the best thing to happen to our favorite series in a long time, and I feel sorry for anyone who lets themselves have it ruined for them because they greeted the whole concept with a crappy attitude.

Bardock the Mexican · Post by **Bardock the Mexican** » Sun Sep 02, 2007 11:32 pm

In my personal opinion it is a good idea to be a little shall we say, apprehensive about accepting this movie. I am saying not to judge it before you see it, but go with a open (read not dead) mind and accept what flaws there will be. Dear God, in order to do what I just mentioned you probably going to need lots of alcohol.

Chaozu · Post by **Chaozu** » Sun Sep 02, 2007 11:41 pm

I'm unsure how this will work out. Unlike something like Spiderman or Transformers, Dragonball Z seems much less palatable for a live-action treatment, and much more oriented to martial arts. They could easily turn this into into a bad kung-fu movie by relying the SFX or fighting to carry the film

I hope the characters get enough screentime to actually have a decent amount depth. I also hope that the director hires real actors rather than look-alikes. Of course it all really comes down to whether or not a decent screenlay for these films came out of all this downtime. Done well, this could renew waning interest in the series.

Eclipse · Post by **Eclipse** » Sun Sep 02, 2007 11:55 pm

Also, here's something to chew on: the first Spider-Man movie got to the point that a completely new TV series was made (granted, it was short-lived, but it still came out). The same goes for the Transformers movie-- apparently, yet another series is gonna come out on TV in the near future. So... do you think that once/if this movie comes out and does well enough, an entirely new DB series will be made?

Definitely not. I don't see how an American film will convince Toei (which will have probably nothing to do with it) to make a new series for a market that they won't be reaching towards.

I'm still finding this a bit sceptical. No details as of yet, and so far only ONE newspaper has reported on this. Given that this is Dragon Ball Z we're talking about, I'd expect a few other places to report on this.

If this really happens though, I seriously hope they do NOT include Over 9000.

SatoSky · Post by **SatoSky** » Sun Sep 02, 2007 11:59 pm

I don't see how a live action Dragon Ball film would get made without Toei having some sort of input. It's not like Hollywood can just take a property and use it as a basis for one of their films without having to pay out a lot of money first. Hell, even the Dragon Ball name has got to be paid for. Not to mention licensing fees for some of the character names, maybe even some attacks, royalties etc.

Maphisto86 · Post by **Maphisto86** » Mon Sep 03, 2007 1:06 am

SSj Kaboom wrote: As such, when the DragonBall Z movie comes out, I know at least I will be able to enjoy it. I'd deeply encourage as many of you as possible to at least try to adopt a similar attitude. This movie will likely be the best thing to happen to our favorite series in a long time, and I feel sorry for anyone who lets themselves have it ruined for them because they greeted the whole concept with a crappy attitude.

Well I can appreciate your optimistc outlook SSJ K.

However I hope you forgive me for saying that I feel like "the glass is half empty" when it comes to drawn out franchises. Occasionally things can turn out for the better with a franchise that has been worn out (James Bond-Casino Royale for example). Yet, I just feeel it in my gut that this is going to blow chunks just for the sake of "let's make a live action version of Dragonball because we can...and to make money".

I dunno, if the movie industry can make our favourite superheroes transcend to the big screen well (unless you make sequels

) then perhaps Fox can make a live action Dragonball film......

.... who am I kidding, it will be a mess of spectacular yet redundant special effects with no soul.

P.S. If it's a hit I will eat my shorts.... and by shorts I mean a box of delicous cookies.

The Time Traveller · Post by **The Time Traveller** » Mon Sep 03, 2007 3:16 am

Hopefully it'll have "too fast to be seen action", or the JoJo's style punching like the manga and anime, Mudabudabudabuda!!!

caejones · Post by **caejones** » Mon Sep 03, 2007 5:30 am

Steven Perry wrote: I don't know, but there's at least going to be something (games, toys, clothes).

Wallscrolls!

*continually tempted to post intro idea*

So what we're expecting is something that will be sweet for making music videos, but not worth downloading illegally?

Jerseymilk · Post by **Jerseymilk** » Mon Sep 03, 2007 8:34 am

Sleven wrote:Kung Fu Hustle

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOiPJLvQ6WU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wTJi3b1yMl8

Shaolin Soccer

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EK0rslKCa2c

Just a few choice clips for those of you still unsure of Hollywood's ability to pull of a live action adaptation of Dragon Ball; most noteably, the questions of special effects.

Ah, I love this movies...

Ya movies that were made by the Hong Kong film industry. *Not* Hollywood. Different culture and hence different approach to things.

sangofe · Post by **sangofe** » Mon Sep 03, 2007 1:05 pm

Alice wrote:Wouldn't this be hell to cast, though, if it was done as condensed sagas? You'd have to get some really good look alikes to do the age fast-forwards.

If it's CG, they can just use the VA's from the various countries around the globe to make many different dubs

b_boult · Post by **b_boult** » Mon Sep 03, 2007 1:09 pm

I wonder if the movie will have Spiderman style opening credits with actual manga art? That would be pretty neat. *thinks out loud*

BlueSky · Post by **Kaboom** » Mon Sep 03, 2007 1:12 pm

b_boult wrote:I wonder if the movie will have Spiderman style opening credits with actual manga art? That would be pretty neat. *thinks out loud*

Oh, great. You made me imagine Alex Ross doing DragonBall art. Now I have to go change my pants. Thanks a lot.

Rocketman · Post by **Rocketman** » Mon Sep 03, 2007 1:15 pm

Maphisto86 wrote:Yet, I just feeel it in my gut that this is going to blow chunks just for the sake of "let's make a live action version of Dragonball because we can...and to make money".

The entire point of any movie is to make money.

Steven Perry · Post by **Steven Perry** » Mon Sep 03, 2007 1:18 pm

Rocketman wrote:
Maphisto86 wrote:Yet, I just feeel it in my gut that this is going to blow chunks just for the sake of "let's make a live action version of Dragonball because we can...and to make money".
The entire point of any movie is to make money.

Erm... no.

Great film makers do it because it's their passion, and they want to entertain people. If I were making a film, the money wouldn't be my first concern; it would be entertaining the audience.

Let's just hope the people making this movie love Dragonball.

Which they probably don't. And in this case, it... will most likely be only about money.

DaemonCorps · Post by **DaemonCorps** » Mon Sep 03, 2007 2:01 pm

b_boult wrote:I wonder if the movie will have Spiderman style opening credits with actual manga art? That would be pretty neat. *thinks out loud*

The only problem with that is that unlike American comics, Dragon Ball's characters don't look like people you'd see in ordinary life. At all. And as advanced as movies' special effects have gotten, I also agree with the lot of you who say that it would take quite the budget to pull off all the crap that goes down in the DBZ universe.

On a different note, in recent movie adaptations, we've seen a couple of things re-made so as to not look as cheesy (ie: Green Goblin's tights changed into this robot-looking outfit). Assuming that this movie will cover the Saiyan Saga, do you think the Saiyan armor will be altered somewhat? Aside from the massive shoulder blade things, it doesn't look that "outdated" as far as alien outfits go (well, okay, maybe the blue tights will be changed, too).

Jerseymilk wrote:One thing I think people are forgetting about with all this excited talk over new merchandise. You realize it'll be "movie version" merchandise mainly right? You'll have action figures that look like the actors, not like the original manga. Same thing for shirts, posters, etc. Just wanted to point that out so people aren't too disappointed when they don't a bajillion products of like chibi plushies and stuff. ^^;

Eh, I don't really care either way. I'd just be pleased to be able to get some kind of DBZ product without having to resort to the internet. At the least I'd probably get something like a live action Vegeta figure just so I can set him next to all my other Vegeta figures

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Alice wrote:Wouldn't this be hell to cast, though, if it was done as condensed sagas? You'd have to get some really good look alikes to do the age fast-forwards.

Time skips have been done in movies before, so I think that will be the least of their problems.

Rocketman · Post by **Rocketman** » Mon Sep 03, 2007 2:33 pm

Steven Perry wrote:Great film makers do it because it's their passion, and they want to entertain people.

And pay their bills.

Kanzenshuu

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