The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

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Post by Captain Sauza » Fri Mar 14, 2014 8:30 pm

Zangya vs Freeza
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Post by RandomGuy96 » Fri Mar 14, 2014 8:48 pm

Wait, what? Seriously?
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dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.
It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWoke
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.
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Post by Kid Buu » Fri Mar 14, 2014 9:15 pm

Zangya stamps.

Kuririn Vs Nam
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Captain Sauza » Fri Mar 14, 2014 9:42 pm

RandomGuy96 wrote:Wait, what? Seriously?
I want to see Freeza's reaction getting beat down by a random pirate woman.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by TheGmGoken » Fri Mar 14, 2014 10:42 pm

Captain Sauza wrote:
RandomGuy96 wrote:Wait, what? Seriously?
I want to see Freeza's reaction getting beat down by a random pirate woman.
Same reaction to any other time he's outclass. This a verses thread not a what if reaction
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Post by Captain Sauza » Fri Mar 14, 2014 10:45 pm

TheGmGoken wrote:
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RandomGuy96 wrote:Wait, what? Seriously?
I want to see Freeza's reaction getting beat down by a random pirate woman.
Same reaction to any other time he's outclass. This a verses thread not a what if reaction
It's because I'm from Space France, isn't it?
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Post by TheGmGoken » Fri Mar 14, 2014 11:35 pm

I don't see how that's relevant let alone funny.
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Post by Captain Sauza » Fri Mar 14, 2014 11:38 pm

#Chillax

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Post by Blackstripe » Sat Mar 15, 2014 4:06 am

Polyphase Avatron wrote:
Blackstripe wrote:Here's a quick scenario for you.

So, the Red Ribbon Army has been on the rampage across the world in their hunt for the Dragon Balls and the King of the Earth has had enough. He orders the King's Guard and the rest of the Earth's Army to amass and prepare to launch an all out attack on the Red Ribbon Army's headquarters, which his spies have located.

The army is basically the same one they sent against Cell.

How does this battle proceed?
If the army that fought Cell was the entirety of the world's armed forces.... they need to institute a draft.
Lol.

Okay, then. Several times that army's size.
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Post by Mystic Buu » Sat Mar 15, 2014 9:35 am

Kid Buu wrote:Zangya stamps.

Kuririn Vs Nam
Yamcha Vs Giran

21st Budokai.
Goku and Nam were very equal and i don't think that Krillin has a chance against him.And Giran wins with Guru-guru-Gum.
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Post by RandomGuy96 » Sat Mar 15, 2014 2:39 pm

Kid Buu wrote:Zangya stamps.

Kuririn Vs Nam
Yamcha Vs Giran

21st Budokai.
Yamcha and Krillin have never been and never will be strong enough to give a serious challenge to a serious Goku (barring MAYBE Yamcha's first appearance), at any point, while these two did. Giran and Nam tear them apart.
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dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.
It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWoke
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Eternal Super Saiyan » Sat Mar 15, 2014 3:20 pm

Whis VS Omega Shenron

Base Goku (Buu Saga) VS 100% Frieza
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Mystic Buu » Sat Mar 15, 2014 3:48 pm

Eternal Super Saiyan wrote:Whis VS Omega Shenron

Base Goku (Buu Saga) VS 100% Freeza
Whis wins easily.We don't know his true power,but I think that even SSJ4 Gogeta wouldn't stand a chance.
Base Goku wins.In 3 years for Androids,1 year for Cell and 7 years after Cell,Goku improved a lot.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Kaboom » Sat Mar 15, 2014 4:51 pm

Eternal Super Saiyan wrote:Whis VS Omega Shenron
Impossible to tell. We know Beerus and Whis are stronger than anyone in DBZ, but not HOW much stronger.
Eternal Super Saiyan wrote:Base Goku (Buu Saga) VS 100% Freeza
Goku's at a sizeable power disadvantage (At 80 to Freeza's 120), but he's got a chance if he can hold out and minimize the damage he takes long enough for Freeza's 100% to start burning him out. Once that happens, Goku could win with a sufficiently powerful attack.
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Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Sat Mar 15, 2014 5:10 pm

Eternal Super Saiyan wrote:Whis VS Omega Shenron
Super Vegetto is slightly stronger than SS4 Goku, and God Goku is stronger than SS3 Vegetto IMO (based on implications), so this would make God Goku (and of course, Beers & Whis) stronger than SS4 Goku & Vegeta, Oozaru Baby, Super #17, and Si Xing Long. So, the question is how does God Goku compare to (Super) Yi Xing Long, SS4 Goku (beyond limits), and SS4 Gogeta. I'm gonna say that God Goku is stronger than everyone in GT to keep it simple (God Goku is stronger than anyone in Z & GT, rather than God Goku is stronger than everyone in Z & GT, except for Yi Xing Long, Super Yi Xing Long, SS4 Goku (beyond limits), and SS4 Gogeta), so Whis wins.
Eternal Super Saiyan wrote:Base Goku (Buu Saga) VS 100% Freeza
Goku is still not strong enough to beat Freeza according to Beerus, so Freeza wins.
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by RandomGuy96 » Sat Mar 15, 2014 5:24 pm

We know Beerus and Whis are stronger than anyone in DBZ,
No, we don't.
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dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.
It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWoke
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.
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Post by Kaboom » Sat Mar 15, 2014 5:31 pm

Oh, for... It doesn't get much more straight-forward than "strongest in the history of Z." If you want to complicate that somehow for yourself, go ahead, but don't expect anyone else to follow along.
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Post by RandomGuy96 » Sat Mar 15, 2014 5:42 pm

Kaboom wrote:Oh, for... It doesn't get much more straight-forward than "strongest in the history of Z."
It doesn't get much more straight-forward than "not the strongest in the history of Z or even in this movie".
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dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.
It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWoke
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.
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Post by Kid Buu » Sat Mar 15, 2014 5:58 pm

RandomGuy96 wrote:
Kid Buu wrote:Zangya stamps.

Kuririn Vs Nam
Yamcha Vs Giran

21st Budokai.
Yamcha and Krillin have never been and never will be strong enough to give a serious challenge to a serious Goku (barring MAYBE Yamcha's first appearance), at any point, while these two did. Giran and Nam tear them apart.
Sad to say I agree. It seemed, only Ram Fan and Bacterian were weaker than those twos, as they seemed to rely more on a gimmick than strength.
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Post by Kamiccolo9 » Sat Mar 15, 2014 6:09 pm

Kid Buu wrote:
RandomGuy96 wrote:
Kid Buu wrote:Zangya stamps.

Kuririn Vs Nam
Yamcha Vs Giran

21st Budokai.
Yamcha and Krillin have never been and never will be strong enough to give a serious challenge to a serious Goku (barring MAYBE Yamcha's first appearance), at any point, while these two did. Giran and Nam tear them apart.
Sad to say I agree. It seemed, only Ram Fan and Bacterian were weaker than those twos, as they seemed to rely more on a gimmick than strength.
Ranfan managed to hurt Nam, in the anime at least. I can't remember what happened in the manga.
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