Dragon Ball Z "Seasons" On Blu-ray: News & Discussion

[qjz123]

Funimation would have been better off just giving us raw films scans in 16:9 since they need to fill peoples screens. They wouldn't look half bad.
http://imageshack.us/a/img29/6952/0qcg.png
http://imageshack.us/a/img801/7742/ffoa.png
http://imageshack.us/a/img22/8508/gmal.png
http://imageshack.us/a/img5/5708/6j28.png
http://imageshack.us/a/img4/6421/v8if.png
http://imageshack.us/a/img707/9775/6bgr.png
http://imageshack.us/a/img202/2929/adlp.png
http://imageshack.us/a/img24/2860/ewac.png

[KingofWisdom]

If Dragon Ball is Toriyama and Toei's baby, then this would qualify as child abuse.

[theoriginalbilis]

Also, $10 says FUNimation releases DBZ on Blu-Ray again by the time these current Blu-Rays finish .

Oh god I just realized something...depending on how these sell..what if they do the Kai Buu saga like this...?

I highly doubt that. Toei probably has enough control over that version of the product, plus they've already done Kai as an HD version themselves. FUNi will probably just release whatever Toei gives them.

[Kojiro Sasaki]

I find it even funny rather than disgusting how they crushed blacks more than the orange bricks.

Some time ago I sent them an email: "Level sets are perfect, there is only one problem: crushed blacks". I added this image: http://imageshack.us/a/img802/3291/txg7.png
I see that they did something

I would like to hear what FUNimation has to say about it.

[Roland_ELoG]

*Sorry for the late reply, this thread moves hella fast.

One of the most enduring (and popular on YouTube) scenes will suffice for a Kai vs Broadcast dub comparison.

"Whatashameyou'renotafractionastoughasyou'dliketobelieve. It's easy enough to tell from the few moves I've seen that all anyone need do is avoid the node on your palm."

That may be a word for word translation, but that's kind of my point. I studied Japanese literature while getting my (useless) degree, and the thing I came across time and time again were "exact translations" that used the same verbiage as the original but conveyed none of the same emotion, and "loose translations" that changed the verbs and word order but matched the tone of the original perfectly.

Kai seems like an exact translation, which makes the dialogue clumsy and scatterbrained. The gulf between English and Japanese as Languages (word order, number of possible adjectives or actions per sentence) is so vast that direct translations sound goofy and... wrong. That's just my take anyway.

"Are androids capable of feeling anythingakintorealfear?"

[KentalSSJ6]

Also, $10 says FUNimation releases DBZ on Blu-Ray again by the time these current Blu-Rays finish .

Oh god I just realized something...depending on how these sell..what if they do the Kai Buu saga like this...?

I highly doubt that. Toei probably has enough control over that version of the product, plus they've already done Kai as an HD version themselves. FUNi will probably just release whatever Toei gives them.

I REALLY hope thats the case. Because if they do this to Kai, I don't even wanna think about it.

[Luso Saiyan]

So, they've sent the grain (a.k.a detail) to planet Vegeta and Bardock couldn't save it from destruction... Oh well, more money to spend on something else...

[KingofWisdom]

"Are androids capable of feeling anythingakintorealfear?"

I thought that was really well worded. Oh well, different strokes.

[Black_Anime_Fan]

Also, $10 says FUNimation releases DBZ on Blu-Ray again by the time these current Blu-Rays finish .

Oh god I just realized something...depending on how these sell..what if they do the Kai Buu saga like this...?

Two things.

1. If they pull the same stunt with the Kai Buu Saga as these Z Blu-Rays, not only would it be stupid (seeing as the previous Blu-Ray Kai sets were in 4:3 and kept exactly the same), but I'll also lose trust with FUNimation forever and never buy a single product from them again, at least a product regarding Dragon Ball (and I can guess that a lot of others will probably feel the same).

2. If they keep the Kai Buu Saga consistent, then why is it so hard for FUNimation to present DBZ in its original form? There are my two cents.

[Metalwario64]

Funimation would have been better off just giving us raw films scans in 16:9 since they need to fill peoples screens. They wouldn't look half bad.
http://imageshack.us/a/img29/6952/0qcg.png

*Sorry for the late reply, this thread moves hella fast.

Just checked that scene, and neither of those lines are delivered all that quickly, nor are they comparable to the Big Green dubbing. If anything, the "akin to real fear" line was delivered a tad slowly.

Also, it's not a "literal" translation. It's an accurate one, but most lines aren't worded exactly as they are in the Japanese dialog because of the ADR directors. Of course, I'm not saying you're wrong if you like Z's dub more, but I'm simply stating why I disagree.

[KingofWisdom]

Admittedly, my wallet is happy that I don't have to go out and spend $200+ to buy DBZ again in the near future. But I really wanted something to replace my orange bricks.

[KentalSSJ6]

Swap out "The Future" for "The Beginning of The End" and I think you got a more accurate product.

[Black_Anime_Fan]

Swap out "The Future" for "The Beginning of The End" and I think you got a more accurate product.

Kinda reminds me of 2007 when FUNimation used the words "Experience the classic series as it was originally intended" for their marketing of the Orange Bricks.

[TheAldella]

I might not have much credit here, having browsed this forum offline forever, but it seems to me you're all over-thinking this in the worst way possible. FUNimation are making the smartest decision to crop these and make them more recent. That's what everyone but the members of this forum seems to enjoy, and we already got the dragon boxes and have torrents if you disrespect Funimation That much. I say we hope for the best and quit complaining about a company appealing to the masses, because, like it or not, that's what they're doing. If we like these sets, then amazing. If we don't, well, there's always next time. They also aren't idiotic enough to go through with changing a product Completely over 3/4 into its run like Kai. (I'm not talking packaging.) That's just out of left field and would require more time, work and money than using current footage from Toei. Something like that seems like the opposite of the direction you're all accusing them of taking. Especially with them now randomly releasing sub-only sets for other anime recently.

[Black_Anime_Fan]

Here's what I think was the trailer that was taken down: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TejxgCh9bSg

Yup, there's a link on the Kanzenshuu homepage that links to my initial mirror prior to this person taking it and reuploading it.

That person would be me, sorry is that bad?

[KingofWisdom]

The Dragon Boxes are out of print, and they came out immediately after the orange bricks, so some people (like me) missed out on them. The problem with this Blu-Ray release isn't that it exists, it's that there's no 4:3 DBZ release on the market. There is no alternative.

[Roland_ELoG]

"Are androids capable of feeling anythingakintorealfear?"

I thought that was really well worded. Oh well, different strokes.

Different strokes absolutely. I think FUNimation's original script was more elegant, if that makes any sense. If I was watching DBZ as a historian or a researcher, I would want accuracy, but watching it for fun and relaxation times, I want it to flow nicely.

Put another way, Kai's dialogue sounds like it was written too much. Like an author that keeps going back over the same sentence to add better words, or change the word order to give it a smooth cadence. The result, when voiced, is somewhat hypnotic. But it leaves me with no real sense of what was just SAID.

Back on topic (how'd we/I get talking about dubisms? Oops), I've time and time again lamented the lack of a definitive home release. The Dragon Boxes were great in a lot of ways for a lot of people, but as I'm after something that resembles what I watched on TV 10 years ago, the Faulconer soundtrack is a must. The original Funimation singles were incomplete, the Orange Bricks are a fucking abomination, the Dragon Boxes were a limited run and are now ungodly expensive, the Ultimate Uncut was cancelled, the Blu Ray level set was cancelled, and Kai is... uh, Kai. (yuck)

[TheAldella]

The Dragon Boxes are out of print, and they came out immediately after the orange bricks, so some people (like me) missed out on them. The problem with this Blu-Ray release isn't that it exists, it's that there's no 4:3 DBZ release on the market.

I see. It seems I've misunderstood somewhere along the line. That is a problem, isn't it? Though, I do remember seeing a few singles at my local vintage stock a few days ago. Bummer that nothing seems to go in the favor of that, huh?



That being said, we still didn't support the level sets the way we Really should have...-sigh-

[Kojiro Sasaki]

I might not have much credit here, having browsed this forum offline forever, but it seems to me you're all over-thinking this in the worst way possible. FUNimation are making the smartest decision to crop these and make them more recent. That's what everyone but the members of this forum seems to enjoy, and we already got the dragon boxes and have torrents if you disrespect Funimation That much. I say we hope for the best and quit complaining about a company appealing to the masses, because, like it or not, that's what they're doing. If we like these sets, then amazing. If we don't, well, there's always next time. They also aren't idiotic enough to go through with changing a product Completely over 3/4 into its run like Kai. (I'm not talking packaging.) That's just out of left field and would require more time, work and money than using current footage from Toei. Something like that seems like the opposite of the direction you're all accusing them of taking. Especially with them now randomly releasing sub-only sets for other anime recently.

http://www.funimation.com/forum/showthr ... Z-blu-rays
http://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=56890&page=79
http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Dragon-Ba ... ray/85277/
http://www.amazon.com/Dragon-Ball-Blu-r ... 00F9IB1M4/

http://www.amazon.com/Dragon-Ball-Level ... 005E2YL40/
http://www.amazon.com/Dragon-Ball-Level ... 005E2YL4U/

What do you think now?

[KentalSSJ6]

I might not have much credit here, having browsed this forum offline forever, but it seems to me you're all over-thinking this in the worst way possible. FUNimation are making the smartest decision to crop these and make them more recent. That's what everyone but the members of this forum seems to enjoy, and we already got the dragon boxes and have torrents if you disrespect Funimation That much. I say we hope for the best and quit complaining about a company appealing to the masses, because, like it or not, that's what they're doing. If we like these sets, then amazing. If we don't, well, there's always next time. They also aren't idiotic enough to go through with changing a product Completely over 3/4 into its run like Kai. (I'm not talking packaging.) That's just out of left field and would require more time, work and money than using current footage from Toei. Something like that seems like the opposite of the direction you're all accusing them of taking. Especially with them now randomly releasing sub-only sets for other anime recently.

Except the cropping to 16:9 aspect does NOTHING improve the final product. The bluray treatment these seasons got would look the same in both 4:9 and 16:9 so all this is doing is cutting off the portion of a image that would have looked no better or worse without the cropping. They are only doing this because the Orange Bricks were in 16:9 and they sold like wildfire.