"Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

[dbzfan7]

Who else feels like their going to forget Bra.

Oh they won't forget Bra, just don't expect her to ever be important beyond just being Vegeta's daughter.

[Sandubadear]

There's the Champa tournament coming right after Freeza's death, though, so I assume Vegeta spent a few days on Earth before going back to Beerus' planet. Then they'll probably head to U6 suddenly, and when they come back, Vegeta is surprised to see he has a new child.

[TheDevilsCorpse]

We don't know when the Champa material takes place for the time being. The current potential timeline still allows for Freeza to take place in October and possibly the Champa material between the rest of the month and December. So AGE 780 could still be entirely free, it just depends on how things may or may not change in Super from Resurrection "F" and if they ever give us a timeframe for how long after that Champa starts.

I'll be keeping an eye on it, because like Herms, the timeline is one of the things I really enjoy about the franchise.

[miguelnuva1]

Isn't it kinda funny that multiverse Bra should actually be around the power canon Bra should be now.

[LSSJGODSSJ4Gogeta]

Isn't it kinda funny that multiverse Bra should actually be around the power canon Bra should be now.

They might make it so Bra is born by Bulma nad Vegeta (right after he gets god powers) So since her father is a saiyan and a god,they could make her VERY powerful. That'd be nice since neither Toryam or Toei really utilized her and she seams like she'd be interesting. female ssj's in super PLZ.

[alakazam^]

Shenlong didn't grant a wish though. He simply gave information. In Super, Gohan and Kuririn even acknowledge that Shenlong just ran away.

Regardless of whether it counts as a wish or not though, when Shenlong can grant more than one wish, using only one of them renders the balls inactive for a shorter period of time. If he still has 3 wishes, like in the Buu Arc, they would be active again after 4 months. So even if a year hasn't passed, they could still get 2 wishes out of the summoning.

It's true that it can be considered a wish or not but if the Dragon Balls didn't stay deactivated for a year, Pilaf would have gone after them again and mess up the time Tagoma and Sorbet came to Earth to collect them.

[Brettjr25]

Isn't it kinda funny that multiverse Bra should actually be around the power canon Bra should be now.

They might make it so Bra is born by Bulma nad Vegeta (right after he gets god powers) So since her father is a saiyan and a god,they could make her VERY powerful. That'd be nice since neither Toryam or Toei really utilized her and she seams like she'd be interesting. female ssj's in super PLZ.

I don't think she would be part god because so far it seems like without the actual SSG form they no longer have god ki, they just increased their ki to the point that it can become as strong as god ki. They can sense Goku's ki and Vegeta doesn't seem like he ever went through the ritual, just trained for 8 months with whis. But who knows, maybe they got it back with SSGS...err i mean SSB.

I doubt the whole Bra thing is going to matter though, I don't think we're going to get a large enough timeskip in the series. Pan and Bra will probably won't ever age pass toddler age. I would enjoy a large timeskip that focuses on Trunks, Goten, Pan, Bra, Marron etc but that would probably be too risky for them whereas Super is very safe if not more on the fanservice side.

[TheDevilsCorpse]

It's true that it can be considered a wish or not but if the Dragon Balls didn't stay deactivated for a year, Pilaf would have gone after them again and mess up the time Tagoma and Sorbet came to Earth to collect them.

Not necessarily. Pilaf and his gang are poor these days and we don't know how accurate his radar is (it couldn't pinpoint them in BOG). It could very well take them all that time to travel around and find the orbs.

And that's if they even thought about searching for them again in that time. They only know that Shelong grants one wish and they saw him summoned. They might think the balls won't be usable again for a year, and then get surprised one day closer to Tagoma and Sorbet's arrival when Pilaf turns on the radar and see's the balls are active.

[LightBing]

I just thought, will there be a referee for the Battle for the Earths Tournament? Beerus, Champa and their attendants probably won't fill that role. Could be a good opportunity to expand the Universe backstory, by inserting a significant character of the mythology of the Dragon World.
Taking into account Champa's sneaky personality, some of his fighters might not be honest. Which also brings us to the location of the tournament.
Could it happen in a place resistant to the probable level of damage, the current characters can cause?

I was just thinking about the opponents and who might be in each team, without realizing the potential of a multiverse tournament. There could be spectators from all around(including the other Universes). This could lead into so much! I really think this tournament is a set up arc for what's to come.

[kidhero1000]

Is it possible that going back in time to the point of divergence (Future Trunks getting in that Time machine to warn Goku) that created the new DB timeline we see now, would erase this timeline and return it the way it was meant to be, with 17 & 18 still running roughshod over Earth during the age Golden Freeza was revived by Sorbet?

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[Brettjr25]

Is it possible that going back in time to the point of divergence (Future Trunks getting in that Time machine to warn Goku) that created the new DB timeline we see now, would erase this timeline and return it the way it was meant to be, with 17 & 18 still running roughshod over Earth during the age Golden Freeza was revived by Sorbet?

No. The one thing we/Trunks.learned about time travel is that it doesn't alter the timeline in dbz but creates a new one while leaving the established one intact.

[Drayenko]

Creates a new one while leaving the established one intact.

People always say this, but why? There are infinite timelines, they're not created from thin air. They're there and have always been.

[TheDevilsCorpse]

People always say this, but why? There are infinite timelines, they're not created from thin air. They're there and have always been.

This isn't Multiverse. There is nothing official that supports that viewpoint. The series, guidebooks, DBO, Xenoverse, etc. They all perpetuate the idea that there was a single timeline that is splintered by people time traveling.

[Drayenko]

Yes. But that makes no sense by any means.

[kidhero1000]

People always say this, but why? There are infinite timelines, they're not created from thin air. They're there and have always been.

This isn't Multiverse. There is nothing official that supports that viewpoint. The series, guidebooks, DBO, Xenoverse, etc. They all perpetuate the idea that there was a single timeline that is splintered by people time traveling.

Well, it's been established now that there are 12 different universes, I would think that would fall under multiverse. As for Xenoverse, even that has show it's possible to go back in someone's past, cause that person to be killed and leading the individual to begin to fade out from existence in the current timeline.

[Brettjr25]

Creates a new one while leaving the established one intact.

People always say this, but why? There are infinite timelines, they're not created from thin air. They're there and have always been.

Because it's dbz fact. If you don't know this then you should rewatch the cell saga.

Facts. When trunks go back in time he finds out that he creates a new timeline not fixes his. Remember dbz follows the happy timeline not the bad ones. When trunks travels through time multiple things happen. 1. Goku lives and gohan defeats cell. 2. Trunks warns goku and finds out his future doesnt change but is now strong enough to kill 17 and 18 and does. 3. 17 and 18 kills everyone and trunks warns goku of the past but when he comes back is KILLED by cell, leaving bulma the sole survivor.

All of these timelines exist and if one didn't.the others wouldn't. So time traveling creates new timelines but doesn't fix the original one.

[TheDevilsCorpse]

Yes. But that makes no sense by any means.

Just because it doesn't make any sense to you doesn't mean that's not how it works. If you want to believe otherwise for your personal canon, that's fine. But there's no need to question others for following the the rules established by the franchise.

Well, it's been established now that there are 12 different universes, I would think that would fall under multiverse. As for Xenoverse, even that has show it's possible to go back in someone's past, cause that person to be killed and leading the individual to begin to fade out from existence in the current timeline.

That's obviously not what I meant: "This isn't Multiverse", not "This isn't a multiverse". It was capitalized because I was talking about the fan comic/dojinshi, which is not the same concept as the 12 Universes introduced at the end of Battle of Gods.

Xenoverse showed it's possible, but only via untraditional means. You either need a time machine developed by the Time Kaioshin, who understands how time works in Dragon Ball's world, or you need to use magic that's only been shown to be known by two of the strongest mages in Universe 7 (Towa and Demigra).