Because his last episode was 72 and he barely did anything on it and he's seemingly become their preferred supervisor for big action episodes.
Maybe these fights go for more than 3 episodes and he'll show up on 82 or something.
ArchedThunder wrote:
Karasawa actually came when it was still just Chioka.
True. He did become part of regular staff under Hatano though. Hopefully he stays with new directors too.
Thinking about it it might not be worth it to worry, he's seen somewhat preferential treatment(as much as one can get on Super anyways) and we don't know how long these preliminary matches go, maybe they last 4 episodes and Karasawa will be on the final one (82) with 11 whole weeks between episodes. I'm still worried though, but I won't get too worked up until we know the staff for the next batch of episodes.
It's also possible that he's on 81 but for whatever reason isn't listed, just like how Newtype's listings for 73 and 76 excluded some supervisors.
I know this will be asking a hell of a lot but, I really want Tomioka Atsuhiro to be handling the scripts for the major arcs from now. His material for the Future Trunks arc was really damn great.
On the subject of the lack of Karawasa: I wouldn't worry about it... right now. The fact we're getting two Wanpack episodes in a row makes me believe (and also hope) that means he's being given more time to do his thing and hasn't jumped shipped to another show.
Spoiler:
Akira Toriyama wrote:My policy is to try and forget things once they’re over. Since if I don’t discard the old and focus on what’s new, I’ll overload my brain capacity. I still haven’t lived down going, “Who the heck is Tao Pai-pai?” that one time I was talking with Ei’ichiro Oda-kun. But the fact that there are still people reading the series after all this time… All I can say is; “thank you.” Really, that’s all.
Akira Toriyama wrote:Drawing Dragon Ball again reminded me of two things--how much I love it, and how much I never want to do it again.
Kunzait_83 wrote:And if you're upset because all this new material completely invalidates the tabletop RPG rulebook-sized statistical system and flowchart for the characters' "canonical Power Levels" that you'd been working on painstakingly for the last bunch of years now... well I don't think there's a kind, non-blunt way of saying this, but that's 100% entirely your own misguided fault for buying so deeply into all this nonsensical garbage in the first place. And that you also have IMMENSELY skewed and comically backwards priorities in what you think is most important and needed to make a good Dragon Ball story.
Zephyr wrote:Goodness, they wrote idiotic drivel in a children's cartoon meant to advertise toys!? Again!? For the ninetieth episode in a row!? Somebody stop the presses! We have to voice our concern over these Super important issues!
Kamiccolo9 wrote:Fair enough, I concede. Sean Schemmel probably has some kind of hidden talent. Maybe he is an expert at Minesweeper. You're right; calling him "talentless" wasn't fair.
Michsi wrote: Mon Jul 04, 2022 11:29 amIn Super Piccolo got yelled off the stage by Vegeta in the U6 Tournament arc and lost to Jiminy Cricket in the ToP , he deserved 15 new transformations with his theme song played by Metallica in the background.
Lord Beerus wrote:I know this will be asking a hell of a lot but, I really want Tomioka Atsuhiro to be handling the scripts for the major arcs from now. His material for the Future Trunks arc was really damn great.
On the subject of the lack of Karawasa: I wouldn't worry about it... right now. The fact we're getting two Wanpack episodes in a row makes me believe (and also hope) that means he's being given more time to do his thing and hasn't jumped shipped to another show.
What did Tomioka do for Future Trunks arc?
悟 “Vincit qui se vincit”
What I consider canonical
Spoiler:
Dragon Ball Manga
Jaco: The Galactic Patrolman
Yo! Son Goku and Friends Return
Additional lore from Toriyama
Dragon Ball Daima
Lord Beerus wrote:I know this will be asking a hell of a lot but, I really want Tomioka Atsuhiro to be handling the scripts for the major arcs from now. His material for the Future Trunks arc was really damn great.
On the subject of the lack of Karawasa: I wouldn't worry about it... right now. The fact we're getting two Wanpack episodes in a row makes me believe (and also hope) that means he's being given more time to do his thing and hasn't jumped shipped to another show.
What did Tomioka do for Future Trunks arc?
He wrote the scripts for Episode 51, 55, 58, 60, 61, 65, 66 and 67. Basically, all the best episodes of the Future Trunks arc, he was significantly responsible for.
Spoiler:
Akira Toriyama wrote:My policy is to try and forget things once they’re over. Since if I don’t discard the old and focus on what’s new, I’ll overload my brain capacity. I still haven’t lived down going, “Who the heck is Tao Pai-pai?” that one time I was talking with Ei’ichiro Oda-kun. But the fact that there are still people reading the series after all this time… All I can say is; “thank you.” Really, that’s all.
Akira Toriyama wrote:Drawing Dragon Ball again reminded me of two things--how much I love it, and how much I never want to do it again.
Kunzait_83 wrote:And if you're upset because all this new material completely invalidates the tabletop RPG rulebook-sized statistical system and flowchart for the characters' "canonical Power Levels" that you'd been working on painstakingly for the last bunch of years now... well I don't think there's a kind, non-blunt way of saying this, but that's 100% entirely your own misguided fault for buying so deeply into all this nonsensical garbage in the first place. And that you also have IMMENSELY skewed and comically backwards priorities in what you think is most important and needed to make a good Dragon Ball story.
Zephyr wrote:Goodness, they wrote idiotic drivel in a children's cartoon meant to advertise toys!? Again!? For the ninetieth episode in a row!? Somebody stop the presses! We have to voice our concern over these Super important issues!
Kamiccolo9 wrote:Fair enough, I concede. Sean Schemmel probably has some kind of hidden talent. Maybe he is an expert at Minesweeper. You're right; calling him "talentless" wasn't fair.
Michsi wrote: Mon Jul 04, 2022 11:29 amIn Super Piccolo got yelled off the stage by Vegeta in the U6 Tournament arc and lost to Jiminy Cricket in the ToP , he deserved 15 new transformations with his theme song played by Metallica in the background.
Lord Beerus wrote:He wrote the scripts for Episode 51, 55, 58, 60, 61, 65, 66 and 67. Basically, all the best episodes of the Future Trunks arc, he was significantly responsible for.
61, 65, 66 and 67 are the best?!
When someone tells you, "Don't present your opinion as fact," what they're actually saying is, "Don't present your opinion with any conviction. Because I don't like your opinion, and I want to be able to dismiss it as easily as possible." Don't fall for it.
How the Black Arc Should End (by Lightbing!):
Spoiler:
Absolute Zamasu(my name for their fusion) wins. He fulfils his utopia and dwells in his loneliness(x amount of time for this to happen). He starts to doubt of his achievements, Goku's body influences him to seek out challenges but there's nothing. Perfection becomes a curse. Absolute Zamasu starts to dread his existence and presents himself to the Omni-King, detailing on his actions.
Using his powers the Omni-King restores everything to the moment before Goku and Vegeta perish, humanity's last barrier. Zamasu concedes. He ask for forgiveness(mainly to Goku, Gowasu and Trunks) and understands that his justice isn't justice at all. He asks for judgement and the Omni-King delivers.
Trunks is forced never to travel in time ever again, all the time-machines are destroyed.
Lord Beerus wrote:He wrote the scripts for Episode 51, 55, 58, 60, 61, 65, 66 and 67. Basically, all the best episodes of the Future Trunks arc, he was significantly responsible for.
61, 65, 66 and 67 are the best?!
Shall I repeat that for you, for clarity's sake?
Spoiler:
Akira Toriyama wrote:My policy is to try and forget things once they’re over. Since if I don’t discard the old and focus on what’s new, I’ll overload my brain capacity. I still haven’t lived down going, “Who the heck is Tao Pai-pai?” that one time I was talking with Ei’ichiro Oda-kun. But the fact that there are still people reading the series after all this time… All I can say is; “thank you.” Really, that’s all.
Akira Toriyama wrote:Drawing Dragon Ball again reminded me of two things--how much I love it, and how much I never want to do it again.
Kunzait_83 wrote:And if you're upset because all this new material completely invalidates the tabletop RPG rulebook-sized statistical system and flowchart for the characters' "canonical Power Levels" that you'd been working on painstakingly for the last bunch of years now... well I don't think there's a kind, non-blunt way of saying this, but that's 100% entirely your own misguided fault for buying so deeply into all this nonsensical garbage in the first place. And that you also have IMMENSELY skewed and comically backwards priorities in what you think is most important and needed to make a good Dragon Ball story.
Zephyr wrote:Goodness, they wrote idiotic drivel in a children's cartoon meant to advertise toys!? Again!? For the ninetieth episode in a row!? Somebody stop the presses! We have to voice our concern over these Super important issues!
Kamiccolo9 wrote:Fair enough, I concede. Sean Schemmel probably has some kind of hidden talent. Maybe he is an expert at Minesweeper. You're right; calling him "talentless" wasn't fair.
Michsi wrote: Mon Jul 04, 2022 11:29 amIn Super Piccolo got yelled off the stage by Vegeta in the U6 Tournament arc and lost to Jiminy Cricket in the ToP , he deserved 15 new transformations with his theme song played by Metallica in the background.
Lord Beerus wrote:I know this will be asking a hell of a lot but, I really want Tomioka Atsuhiro to be handling the scripts for the major arcs from now. His material for the Future Trunks arc was really damn great.
On the subject of the lack of Karawasa: I wouldn't worry about it... right now. The fact we're getting two Wanpack episodes in a row makes me believe (and also hope) that means he's being given more time to do his thing and hasn't jumped shipped to another show.
What did Tomioka do for Future Trunks arc?
He wrote the scripts for Episode 51, 55, 58, 60, 61, 65, 66 and 67. Basically, all the best episodes of the Future Trunks arc, he was significantly responsible for.
Those were good episodes, even though I guess the messed up power levels might be his fault, along with the fact we never got an explanation for Black's power-ups.
But I'm definitely happy he's writing the first bunch of episodes for the new arc, I like how he writes Goku.
悟 “Vincit qui se vincit”
What I consider canonical
Spoiler:
Dragon Ball Manga
Jaco: The Galactic Patrolman
Yo! Son Goku and Friends Return
Additional lore from Toriyama
Dragon Ball Daima
Lord Beerus wrote:He wrote the scripts for Episode 51, 55, 58, 60, 61, 65, 66 and 67. Basically, all the best episodes of the Future Trunks arc, he was significantly responsible for.
61, 65, 66 and 67 are the best?!
All these can probably be attributed to Toriyama tbh. Although I don't see anything wrong with 65 at all. I don't even have any problems with 67 or 61 although I could see why some do.
Jinzoningen MULE wrote: Maybe I should start making it a point not to comment when I'm not sure of something. Too many people know what they're talking about around here.
Disclaimer: I might get into a disagreement with you. Sometimes I might even get feisty about it. I'll never harbor negative feelings because of it though. I hope you feel the same way!
I made a bet with Alee9977 that Vegeta won't be beaten quickly by an opponent. If I lose, I switch my avatar to Vegeta getting beat by hit. If I win, he switches it to Vegeta holding Black by his hair. This will last a month.
kinisking wrote:All these can probably be attributed to Toriyama tbh. Although I don't see anything wrong with 65 at all. I don't even have any problems with 67 or 61 although I could see why some do.
67 is great conceptually but I don't like them convoluting the time travel even more by adding the stupid Toei chart in there after ignoring it entirely beforehand. That extends to 61 where Black's origin just doesn't work.I also don't buy Trunks doesn't blow his own brains out after everything is said and done, he's going insane throughout most of the arc just by fighting Black, this should have destroyed him completely. 65 is mostly fine but Goku randomly being able to overpower Zamasu's attack when Vegeta, who was established as stronger for the past two episodes, got stomped along with Trunks helping him is a problem.
When someone tells you, "Don't present your opinion as fact," what they're actually saying is, "Don't present your opinion with any conviction. Because I don't like your opinion, and I want to be able to dismiss it as easily as possible." Don't fall for it.
How the Black Arc Should End (by Lightbing!):
Spoiler:
Absolute Zamasu(my name for their fusion) wins. He fulfils his utopia and dwells in his loneliness(x amount of time for this to happen). He starts to doubt of his achievements, Goku's body influences him to seek out challenges but there's nothing. Perfection becomes a curse. Absolute Zamasu starts to dread his existence and presents himself to the Omni-King, detailing on his actions.
Using his powers the Omni-King restores everything to the moment before Goku and Vegeta perish, humanity's last barrier. Zamasu concedes. He ask for forgiveness(mainly to Goku, Gowasu and Trunks) and understands that his justice isn't justice at all. He asks for judgement and the Omni-King delivers.
Trunks is forced never to travel in time ever again, all the time-machines are destroyed.
There's one thing I've just noticed... the lack of Yashima. Seriously, where the hell is he? The last we saw of him was EP70. I think he may have left the show. I hope to God we haven't lost him because his solo efforts have been invaluable for Super.
Spoiler:
Akira Toriyama wrote:My policy is to try and forget things once they’re over. Since if I don’t discard the old and focus on what’s new, I’ll overload my brain capacity. I still haven’t lived down going, “Who the heck is Tao Pai-pai?” that one time I was talking with Ei’ichiro Oda-kun. But the fact that there are still people reading the series after all this time… All I can say is; “thank you.” Really, that’s all.
Akira Toriyama wrote:Drawing Dragon Ball again reminded me of two things--how much I love it, and how much I never want to do it again.
Kunzait_83 wrote:And if you're upset because all this new material completely invalidates the tabletop RPG rulebook-sized statistical system and flowchart for the characters' "canonical Power Levels" that you'd been working on painstakingly for the last bunch of years now... well I don't think there's a kind, non-blunt way of saying this, but that's 100% entirely your own misguided fault for buying so deeply into all this nonsensical garbage in the first place. And that you also have IMMENSELY skewed and comically backwards priorities in what you think is most important and needed to make a good Dragon Ball story.
Zephyr wrote:Goodness, they wrote idiotic drivel in a children's cartoon meant to advertise toys!? Again!? For the ninetieth episode in a row!? Somebody stop the presses! We have to voice our concern over these Super important issues!
Kamiccolo9 wrote:Fair enough, I concede. Sean Schemmel probably has some kind of hidden talent. Maybe he is an expert at Minesweeper. You're right; calling him "talentless" wasn't fair.
Michsi wrote: Mon Jul 04, 2022 11:29 amIn Super Piccolo got yelled off the stage by Vegeta in the U6 Tournament arc and lost to Jiminy Cricket in the ToP , he deserved 15 new transformations with his theme song played by Metallica in the background.
Lord Beerus wrote:There's one thing I've just noticed... the lack of Yashima. Seriously, where the hell is he? The last we saw of him was EP70. I think he may have left the show. I hope to God we haven't lost him because his solo efforts have been invaluable for Super.
Lord Beerus wrote:There's one thing I've just noticed... the lack of Yashima. Seriously, where the hell is he? The last we saw of him was EP70. I think he may have left the show. I hope to God we haven't lost him because his solo efforts have been invaluable for Super.
He just did episode 77...
...scrolls though pages in Super Animation Catalogue 2.0...
Ugh.
Someone slap some sense into me.
EDIT: To be fair, I've been really fucking tired from work recently and have been... forgetting things.
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Spoiler:
Akira Toriyama wrote:My policy is to try and forget things once they’re over. Since if I don’t discard the old and focus on what’s new, I’ll overload my brain capacity. I still haven’t lived down going, “Who the heck is Tao Pai-pai?” that one time I was talking with Ei’ichiro Oda-kun. But the fact that there are still people reading the series after all this time… All I can say is; “thank you.” Really, that’s all.
Akira Toriyama wrote:Drawing Dragon Ball again reminded me of two things--how much I love it, and how much I never want to do it again.
Kunzait_83 wrote:And if you're upset because all this new material completely invalidates the tabletop RPG rulebook-sized statistical system and flowchart for the characters' "canonical Power Levels" that you'd been working on painstakingly for the last bunch of years now... well I don't think there's a kind, non-blunt way of saying this, but that's 100% entirely your own misguided fault for buying so deeply into all this nonsensical garbage in the first place. And that you also have IMMENSELY skewed and comically backwards priorities in what you think is most important and needed to make a good Dragon Ball story.
Zephyr wrote:Goodness, they wrote idiotic drivel in a children's cartoon meant to advertise toys!? Again!? For the ninetieth episode in a row!? Somebody stop the presses! We have to voice our concern over these Super important issues!
Kamiccolo9 wrote:Fair enough, I concede. Sean Schemmel probably has some kind of hidden talent. Maybe he is an expert at Minesweeper. You're right; calling him "talentless" wasn't fair.
Michsi wrote: Mon Jul 04, 2022 11:29 amIn Super Piccolo got yelled off the stage by Vegeta in the U6 Tournament arc and lost to Jiminy Cricket in the ToP , he deserved 15 new transformations with his theme song played by Metallica in the background.
kinisking wrote:All these can probably be attributed to Toriyama tbh. Although I don't see anything wrong with 65 at all. I don't even have any problems with 67 or 61 although I could see why some do.
67 is great conceptually but I don't like them convoluting the time travel even more by adding the stupid Toei chart in there after ignoring it entirely beforehand. That extends to 61 where Black's origin just doesn't work.I also don't buy Trunks doesn't blow his own brains out after everything is said and done, he's going insane throughout most of the arc just by fighting Black, this should have destroyed him completely. 65 is mostly fine but Goku randomly being able to overpower Zamasu's attack when Vegeta, who was established as stronger for the past two episodes, got stomped along with Trunks helping him is a problem.
What do you mean by adding the Toei chart? Also Trunks not blowing his brains out or getting completely depressed really isn't something that should be held against the writer or DB super. That's too dark for Dragonball in general. Also, considering he's pretty much lived his whole life like this, he's probably just used to it. Lastly , everyone he truly cared about already died or came with him (Mai). It would've made sense for him to get depressed but I wouldn't call it bad writing that he didn't.
The Kamehameha moment was pretty stupid considering they brought the kaioken back like 2 seconds later but eh.
Jinzoningen MULE wrote: Maybe I should start making it a point not to comment when I'm not sure of something. Too many people know what they're talking about around here.
Disclaimer: I might get into a disagreement with you. Sometimes I might even get feisty about it. I'll never harbor negative feelings because of it though. I hope you feel the same way!
I made a bet with Alee9977 that Vegeta won't be beaten quickly by an opponent. If I lose, I switch my avatar to Vegeta getting beat by hit. If I win, he switches it to Vegeta holding Black by his hair. This will last a month.
kinisking wrote:What do you mean by adding the Toei chart? Also Trunks not blowing his brains out or getting completely depressed really isn't something that should be held against the writer or DB super. That's too dark for Dragonball in general. Also, considering he's pretty much lived his whole life like this, he's probably just used to it. Lastly , everyone he truly cared about already died or came with him (Mai). It would've made sense for him to get depressed but I wouldn't call it bad writing that he didn't.
The Toei chart adds in the moronic idea that Beerus killing Zamasu creates a new timeline where he's not dead as a way to explain where Black comes from. Nothing from before 67 remotely implies this, if anything, everyone's going by the logical assumption of "If we kill this guy now, it'll erase Black!" and then Black says that the Time Ring protects him from anyone trying to mess with him in the past, hence why he continues to exist when there's no logical way for him to.
See, if you're not gonna go all-out with an ending like this, why are you even putting it in? Hell, if they cut out Trunks' PTSD I could buy the conclusion much easier, but they really play up that this whole ordeal with Black is wearing on Trunks' psyche. So it's really weird that he's taking the fact everything he's ever worked for means nothing with such stride.
When someone tells you, "Don't present your opinion as fact," what they're actually saying is, "Don't present your opinion with any conviction. Because I don't like your opinion, and I want to be able to dismiss it as easily as possible." Don't fall for it.
How the Black Arc Should End (by Lightbing!):
Spoiler:
Absolute Zamasu(my name for their fusion) wins. He fulfils his utopia and dwells in his loneliness(x amount of time for this to happen). He starts to doubt of his achievements, Goku's body influences him to seek out challenges but there's nothing. Perfection becomes a curse. Absolute Zamasu starts to dread his existence and presents himself to the Omni-King, detailing on his actions.
Using his powers the Omni-King restores everything to the moment before Goku and Vegeta perish, humanity's last barrier. Zamasu concedes. He ask for forgiveness(mainly to Goku, Gowasu and Trunks) and understands that his justice isn't justice at all. He asks for judgement and the Omni-King delivers.
Trunks is forced never to travel in time ever again, all the time-machines are destroyed.
kinisking wrote:What do you mean by adding the Toei chart? Also Trunks not blowing his brains out or getting completely depressed really isn't something that should be held against the writer or DB super. That's too dark for Dragonball in general. Also, considering he's pretty much lived his whole life like this, he's probably just used to it. Lastly , everyone he truly cared about already died or came with him (Mai). It would've made sense for him to get depressed but I wouldn't call it bad writing that he didn't.
The Toei chart adds in the moronic idea that Beerus killing Zamasu creates a new timeline where he's not dead as a way to explain where Black comes from. Nothing from before 67 remotely implies this, if anything, everyone's going by the logical assumption of "If we kill this guy now, it'll erase Black!" and then Black says that the Time Ring protects him from anyone trying to mess with him in the past, hence why he continues to exist when there's no logical way for him to.
See, if you're not gonna go all-out with an ending like this, why are you even putting it in? Hell, if they cut out Trunks' PTSD I could buy the conclusion much easier, but they really play up that this whole ordeal with Black is wearing on Trunks' psyche. So it's really weird that he's taking the fact everything he's ever worked for means nothing with such stride.
I thought the timeline where black lived on was the original and the changes Trunks caused lead to a timeline where he was murdered rather than the murder creating a timeline ?
Good point. They did play on the PTSD a lot.
Jinzoningen MULE wrote: Maybe I should start making it a point not to comment when I'm not sure of something. Too many people know what they're talking about around here.
Disclaimer: I might get into a disagreement with you. Sometimes I might even get feisty about it. I'll never harbor negative feelings because of it though. I hope you feel the same way!
I made a bet with Alee9977 that Vegeta won't be beaten quickly by an opponent. If I lose, I switch my avatar to Vegeta getting beat by hit. If I win, he switches it to Vegeta holding Black by his hair. This will last a month.
kinisking wrote:I thought the timeline where black lived on was the original and the changes Trunks caused lead to a timeline where he was murdered rather than the murder creating a timeline ?
Before 67, the anime seems to apply the logic of "if we kill Hitler before he becomes Hitler, then it'll fix the timeline" with regards to Black. His Time Ring explanation is meant to explain why he, and all of his actions persist even though none of it should anymore.
When someone tells you, "Don't present your opinion as fact," what they're actually saying is, "Don't present your opinion with any conviction. Because I don't like your opinion, and I want to be able to dismiss it as easily as possible." Don't fall for it.
How the Black Arc Should End (by Lightbing!):
Spoiler:
Absolute Zamasu(my name for their fusion) wins. He fulfils his utopia and dwells in his loneliness(x amount of time for this to happen). He starts to doubt of his achievements, Goku's body influences him to seek out challenges but there's nothing. Perfection becomes a curse. Absolute Zamasu starts to dread his existence and presents himself to the Omni-King, detailing on his actions.
Using his powers the Omni-King restores everything to the moment before Goku and Vegeta perish, humanity's last barrier. Zamasu concedes. He ask for forgiveness(mainly to Goku, Gowasu and Trunks) and understands that his justice isn't justice at all. He asks for judgement and the Omni-King delivers.
Trunks is forced never to travel in time ever again, all the time-machines are destroyed.
kinisking wrote:I thought the timeline where black lived on was the original and the changes Trunks caused lead to a timeline where he was murdered rather than the murder creating a timeline ?
Before 67, the anime seems to apply the logic of "if we kill Hitler before he becomes Hitler, then it'll fix the timeline" with regards to Black. His Time Ring explanation is meant to explain why he, and all of his actions persist even though none of it should anymore.
Okay, so what's the problem with that ?
Jinzoningen MULE wrote: Maybe I should start making it a point not to comment when I'm not sure of something. Too many people know what they're talking about around here.
Disclaimer: I might get into a disagreement with you. Sometimes I might even get feisty about it. I'll never harbor negative feelings because of it though. I hope you feel the same way!
I made a bet with Alee9977 that Vegeta won't be beaten quickly by an opponent. If I lose, I switch my avatar to Vegeta getting beat by hit. If I win, he switches it to Vegeta holding Black by his hair. This will last a month.
