New "Remastered Box Set" Information

Kendamu · Post by **Kendamu** » Mon Jan 22, 2007 12:31 pm

I know how they framed it!

Okay, so I went to http://db.schuby.org/daizex/viewtopic.php?t=4689 and downloaded the picture of the film frame. I then went to http://andrew.hedges.name/experiments/aspect_ratio/ and put "16" on the top left, "9" on the bottom left, and put "475" (the horizontal pixel length of the image I downloaded) into the top right. On the bottom right "267" came out.

I then opened up the picture I downloaded in Microsoft Office Picture Manager and cropped the vertical area down to 267 pixels. When I centered the amount of cropping taken from the top and bottom, it came out looking exactly like FUNi's 16:9 frame!

I did a little bit of division on Google to see the percentage lost using this technique (I put in "267 / 321") and it came out that we're [edit]retaining about 83.1% of the original vertical area from the original frame.[/edit]

In the end, it all comes down to actually watching the DVDs and deciding for yourself, but after looking for a few other frames online and cutting them down to 16:9 myself, I'm not as skeptical as I was before about 16:9 as long as whoever is framing these shots has some sense and doesn't frame Dragonball Z carelessly.

Even if the product does turn out well, FUNi's still full of liars. That's beside the point, though.

I'm sure there are a lot of you here going "duh" but I'm not a huge techie or anything so this is all more of a "wow" to me.

BrollysKin · Post by **BrollysKin** » Mon Jan 22, 2007 1:53 pm

So is this a good thing for the boxset or a bad thing? I don't speak monkey you know.

Kendamu · Post by **Kendamu** » Mon Jan 22, 2007 1:59 pm

As I said before, in the end it all comes down to actually watching the DVDs and deciding for yourself.

That, or waiting for Mike and various DaizEX members to give their reviews.

What I'm saying is that as long as the frames aren't carelessly put into 16:9 this doesn't have to turn out being the bane of everything Dragonball Z.

Mystery Person X · Post by **Mystery Person X** » Mon Jan 22, 2007 2:32 pm

Kendamu wrote:In the end, it all comes down to actually watching the DVDs and deciding for yourself, but after looking for a few other frames online and cutting them down to 16:9 myself, I'm not as skeptical as I was before about 16:9 as long as whoever is framing these shots has some sense and doesn't frame Dragonball Z carelessly.

The problem is, the edges of the original 1.48:1 film frame are very heavily curved. If they're extracting a 16:9 frame that uses the entire width, they have very little room to maneuver up and down before the curved edges start appearing in the frame. They're basically stuck with the dead centre for every shot (which seems to be slightly above the centre of the 4:3 version).

Kendamu · Post by **Kendamu** » Mon Jan 22, 2007 2:56 pm

True. Just all the more reason for me to switch the region on my DVD player (which I think I can actually do with my PS2's DVD player) and start buying those expensive DragonBox singles.

SatoSky · Post by **SatoSky** » Mon Jan 22, 2007 6:40 pm

Kendamu wrote:I'm not as skeptical as I was before about 16:9 as long as whoever is framing these shots has some sense and doesn't frame Dragonball Z carelessly.

I hate to be that I hate FUNi dude, but I'm sure the 16:9 framing will be done rather carelessly. I mean, it's FUNimation.

Kendamu · Post by **Kendamu** » Mon Jan 22, 2007 7:10 pm

Sure, it's FUNimation, but I know that there are a lot of people on this forum alone who could center the fram in Widescreen halfway decently. Hell, the guy at DBZSC makes some of his DBZ music videos in Widescreen (cropping the 4:3 version instead of the whole original frame, obviously) and it turns out rather well.

I'm really hoping I like what I spent that $20 on enough that I don't necessarily have to boycott FUNimation anytime soon.

SatoSky · Post by **SatoSky** » Mon Jan 22, 2007 7:20 pm

Kendamu wrote:Sure, it's FUNimation, but I know that there are a lot of people on this forum alone who could center the fram in Widescreen halfway decently. Hell, the guy at DBZSC makes some of his DBZ music videos in Widescreen (cropping the 4:3 version instead of the whole original frame, obviously) and it turns out rather well.

I'm really hoping I like what I spent that $20 on enough that I don't necessarily have to boycott FUNimation anytime soon.

Well I'm hoping for the best as well since I also bought the set. FUNimation though, they just have a really bad track record with this sort of stuff. The compression on their DVD's have been crap. I wouldn't be surprised if they cropped a whole damn episode without paying attention to each individual frame like they should be doing. Well, in any case I'll be picking this set up. I'll just hope for the best.

DaemonCorps · Post by **DaemonCorps** » Mon Jan 22, 2007 8:46 pm

For those who've pre-ordered the set, what's your delivery estimate? For me (and probably anyone else who ordered from amazon.com) it's between February 8, 2007 and February 10, 2007.

fps_anth · Post by **fps_anth** » Mon Jan 22, 2007 9:30 pm

DaemonCorps wrote:For those who've pre-ordered the set, what's your delivery estimate? For me (and probably anyone else who ordered from amazon.com) it's between February 8, 2007 and February 10, 2007.

4-6 days after it ships (which should be before the 6'th). It only costed me 9.50, and this is on top of the 19.90 that I payed for the box set. Pretty good deal if you ask me!

SatoSky · Post by **SatoSky** » Mon Jan 22, 2007 10:06 pm

fps_anth wrote:
DaemonCorps wrote:For those who've pre-ordered the set, what's your delivery estimate? For me (and probably anyone else who ordered from amazon.com) it's between February 8, 2007 and February 10, 2007.
4-6 days after it ships (which should be before the 6'th). It only costed me 9.50, and this is on top of the 19.90 that I payed for the box set. Pretty good deal if you ask me!

Damn it! I was impatient and got the next day delivery from CD Universe.

I should have it by the 7th or 8th.

I am an idiot.

fps_anth · Post by **fps_anth** » Mon Jan 22, 2007 10:19 pm

SatoSky wrote:
fps_anth wrote:
DaemonCorps wrote:For those who've pre-ordered the set, what's your delivery estimate? For me (and probably anyone else who ordered from amazon.com) it's between February 8, 2007 and February 10, 2007.
4-6 days after it ships (which should be before the 6'th). It only costed me 9.50, and this is on top of the 19.90 that I payed for the box set. Pretty good deal if you ask me!
Damn it! I was impatient and got the next day delivery from CD Universe. I should have it by the 7th or 8th. I am an idiot.

lol, I was thinking about that. It's 4-6 days for $9.90, then it jumps way up to $18.80 for 2-4 days (something like that). Pretty crazy prices if you ask me, but atleast you'll have the box set before me!

DaemonCorps · Post by **DaemonCorps** » Mon Jan 22, 2007 10:31 pm

fps_anth wrote:lol, I was thinking about that. It's 4-6 days for $9.90, then it jumps way up to $18.80 for 2-4 days (something like that). Pretty crazy prices if you ask me, but atleast you'll have the box set before me!

$9.90 for shipping? I got my order off of amazon for $30 plus $3 shipping, which is basically the same thing. And all this time, I thought cduniverse had something going on with their crazy $20 price. (Or am I misunderstanding something?)

fps_anth · Post by **fps_anth** » Mon Jan 22, 2007 10:39 pm

DaemonCorps wrote:
fps_anth wrote:lol, I was thinking about that. It's 4-6 days for $9.90, then it jumps way up to $18.80 for 2-4 days (something like that). Pretty crazy prices if you ask me, but atleast you'll have the box set before me!
$9.90 for shipping? I got my order off of amazon for $30 plus $3 shipping, which is basically the same thing. And all this time, I thought cduniverse had something going on with their crazy $20 price. (Or am I misunderstanding something?)

Well, I live in Canada. So, of course, I have to pay a little more than the people in the U.S.

Standard 3-10 Days 4.99
Priority 4-6 Days 9.20
Expedited 3-5 Days 18.50
Express 1-3 Days 21.50

I COULD have picked standard shipping, which would have totaled at about 25 bucks. But hell, I'm getting this set for 28 bucks with a fairly good delivery time! It's still a steal! For 3 dollar shipping, how long will it take to get to your house?

DaemonCorps · Post by **DaemonCorps** » Mon Jan 22, 2007 11:03 pm

fps_anth wrote:For 3 dollar shipping, how long will it take to get to your house?

According to amazon, that's standard shipping (around ten days-ish).

In other related news, I was talking to my friend who isn't a hardcore DBZ fan (I got him into it for a while with the manga, but that's it) and even he reached the conclusion that the series was originally filmed for 4:3 and could look strange cropped in widescreen. Then again, he's a techie, so he'd know these things

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majinboogc · Post by **majinboogc** » Mon Jan 22, 2007 11:10 pm

Umm... Is it just me or did the status change from pre-release to back-ordered in January? I'm talking about the CDUniverse pre-order. Also, the page changed and so did the pricing. I think...

Old Page:
http://www.cduniverse.com/productinfo.a ... 2361&BAB=E

New Page:
http://www.cduniverse.com/productinfo.a ... ovie&BAB=M

SatoSky · Post by **SatoSky** » Mon Jan 22, 2007 11:15 pm

The price actually did go up from $20.54 to $31.04, though that shouldn't change your price if you pre-ordered when it was 20 bucks.

Kendamu · Post by **Kendamu** » Tue Jan 23, 2007 12:25 am

SatoSky wrote:The price actually did go up from $20.54 to $31.04, though that shouldn't change your price if you pre-ordered when it was 20 bucks.

I got a confirmation a couple days after the price went up but since I preordered mine before the price raise I stil get it for $20.

majinboogc · Post by **majinboogc** » Tue Jan 23, 2007 4:06 am

I have had my confirmation since I pre-ordered it at 20.64, back before it was known that it was going to be widescreen, but the status changed from pre-order to backorder which is kind of odd.

Brad Redfield · Post by **Brad Redfield** » Tue Jan 23, 2007 2:12 pm

Hey guys, apparently aaaanime.com has the set in ("NEW! Arrived: 1/22/07") for wholesale.

http://www.aaaanime.com/dvds.asp?view=item&code=FN02242

I suppose the set should be arriving at retailers as we speak. However they won't be able to put it out until the instructed street date unless they want to get into trouble.

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