Official On-Going DBZ 2013 Movie Thread: "Battle of Gods"

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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2013 Movie Thread: "Battle of Gods

Post by SSj_Rambo » Tue Apr 02, 2013 11:52 am

DBZfan29 wrote:I know this comes out of the blue, but has the official movie poster been released as an actual poster anywhere? I know the pamphlets use it, but is it included in the Movie Guide?

Also, does anyone know what this is?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/251253890647?_t ... 97.c0.m619
Looks like some material from the World of Dragonball Exhibit.

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Post by omegalucas » Tue Apr 02, 2013 12:00 pm

DBZfan29 wrote:I know this comes out of the blue, but has the official movie poster been released as an actual poster anywhere? I know the pamphlets use it, but is it included in the Movie Guide?

Also, does anyone know what this is?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/251253890647?_t ... 97.c0.m619
The Super Saiyan God poster that comes with the movie guide apparently has the official poster in the back. It's a two-in-one basically :P
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Post by UpFromTheSkies » Tue Apr 02, 2013 12:07 pm

The auction page gives a pretty detailed description of what it is

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Post by DBZfan29 » Tue Apr 02, 2013 12:31 pm

UpFromTheSkies wrote:The auction page gives a pretty detailed description of what it is
Yes, I know that it's from the exhibition. I was hoping someone who owns it could tell me more specifically what's it in. I don't know if there's anything in there that's worth $45.
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Post by WhiskersTheWonderCat » Tue Apr 02, 2013 2:12 pm

I don't think this has been posted yet, but if anyone is interested in seeing another review for the film, Kotaku posted one yesterday.

http://kotaku.com/the-new-dragon-ball-z ... -464819108

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Post by B » Tue Apr 02, 2013 2:26 pm

I'm desperately afraid to read anything from Kotaku.
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Post by bleed0range » Tue Apr 02, 2013 2:32 pm

That Kotaku review wasn't bad. Seemed fair and mostly positive.

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Post by Eternal Super Saiyan » Tue Apr 02, 2013 3:04 pm

Saiyan Prince Vegeta wrote:I guess since Goku was fighting Beers in base far greater than he did as a SSJ3, he didn't think he changed back. :)
Based on the fights in the movie, power levels seem to ignore SSJ multipliers. Now you have 50x increase at SSJ, then 100x at SSJ2 and 400x at SSJ3.... Why hes only using SSJ1? I must be missing something..
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Post by VegettoEX » Tue Apr 02, 2013 3:05 pm

Because that stuff clearly doesn't matter when they want to put priority on telling an actual interesting story instead of maintaining consistency with numbers that were never intended to be consistent or relevant in the first place.

That's my take on it, anyway :).
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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2013 Movie Thread: "Battle of Gods

Post by Saiyan Prince Vegeta » Tue Apr 02, 2013 3:14 pm

Because Goku had absorbed the "other realm" , so now his base form is much higher than his SSJ3 form when he fought Beers. Unless you mean, why isn't base Godku miles behind his Godly SSJ form. Maybe his God power changes the way the SSJ forms work. I really don't know about that one. :P

Edit: Actualy maybe Goku in base was quite far behind his godly SSJ, I'll have to watch Beers taking on Godku base to decide that for myself. :)
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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2013 Movie Thread: "Battle of Gods

Post by Eternal Super Saiyan » Tue Apr 02, 2013 3:22 pm

Saiyan Prince Vegeta wrote:Because Goku had absorbed the "other realm" , so now his base form is much higher than his SSJ3 form when he fought Beers. Unless you mean, why isn't base Godku miles behind his Godly SSJ form. Maybe his God power changes the way the SSJ forms work. I really don't know about that one. :P
and this was already noticed in the Buu saga, we have Gohan vs. Dabura for example, Gohan was holding his own at base form, then when he transformed to SSJ or SSJ2 or whatever he used, it didn't tip the scales all that much. Same for the Broly's second coming, Gohan was holding his own at base in the beginning of the fight. Its like multipliers went lower and lower over a period of time.
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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2013 Movie Thread: "Battle of Gods

Post by VyeRo » Tue Apr 02, 2013 3:24 pm

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DBZfan29 wrote:I know this comes out of the blue, but has the official movie poster been released as an actual poster anywhere? I know the pamphlets use it, but is it included in the Movie Guide?
The Super Saiyan God poster that comes with the movie guide apparently has the official poster in the back. It's a two-in-one basically :P
I just received the movie guide in the mail! :D

And yes, the official poster is included in the guide, and the SSJG poster is on the back of it. It's not a very large poster though.

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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2013 Movie Thread: "Battle of Gods

Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Tue Apr 02, 2013 3:27 pm

Eternal Super Saiyan wrote:Based on the fights in the movie, power levels seem to ignore SSJ multipliers. Now you have 50x increase at SSJ, then 100x at SSJ2 and 400x at SSJ3.... Why hes only using SSJ1? I must be missing something..
You did miss something. :P

Goku became a Super Saiyan God, but the power of the Super Saiyan God was only temporary. However, Goku somehow managed to unconsciously absorb the power of the Super Saiyan God, so when the time was up, he reverted back to base. Because he had absorbed the power of the Super Saiyan God form, Goku's power didn't fell in his base form back to normal, since he could still put a fight against Beers (he gave Beers a hard punch in his gut, while SS3 Goku before becoming a God couldn't do shit against him). The Goku turned into a Super Saiyan, still giving an even fight with Beers, and Beers noticed that Goku's power hadn't decreased significantly from his Super Saiyan God form. For the whole fight Goku wasn't aware that he went from SSG, to base, to SS, because he thought that he was fighting as a Super Saiyan God for the whole time, so I guess there isn't a significant gap between his base, Super Saiyan, and Super Saiyan God forms now. And since Goku didn't try to go Super Saiyan 2 or 3 (because he wasn't even aware he could do it, since he thought he was in Super Saiyan God), we don't know if Goku can still use them. But if he still can, I guess they won't give him a significant boost, and they will be weaker that Super Saiyan God. So, forget the x50 multiplier for Super Saiyan Goku.
VegettoEX wrote:Because that stuff clearly doesn't matter when they want to put priority on telling an actual interesting story instead of maintaining consistency with numbers that were never intended to be consistent or relevant in the first place.
An interesting & good story should also be consistent. Not only about the power gaps, but about everything.
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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Post by songohan619 » Tue Apr 02, 2013 3:28 pm

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VegettoEX wrote:Because that stuff clearly doesn't matter when they want to put priority on telling an actual interesting story instead of maintaining consistency with numbers that were never intended to be consistent or relevant in the first place.
An interesting & good story should also be consistent. Not only about the power gaps, but about everything.
Well, I kind of disagree and agree on that one. Yes, stuff like the power gaps should stay consistent, but it should not get in the way of telling a good story.
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Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Tue Apr 02, 2013 3:32 pm

songohan619 wrote:Well, I kind of disagree and agree on that one. Yes, stuff like the power gaps should stay consistent, but it should not get in the way of telling a good story.
Just imagine Roshi holding his own against Ultimate Gohan, who gets beaten by Piccolo right after that. In the background, Goku is flirting with Bulma.

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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2013 Movie Thread: "Battle of Gods

Post by songohan619 » Tue Apr 02, 2013 3:34 pm

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songohan619 wrote:Well, I kind of disagree and agree on that one. Yes, stuff like the power gaps should stay consistent, but it should not get in the way of telling a good story.
Just imagine Roshi holding his own against Ultimate Gohan, who gets beaten by Piccolo right after that. In the background, Goku is flirting with Bulma.

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Post by Saiyan Prince Vegeta » Tue Apr 02, 2013 3:34 pm

Eternal Super Saiyan wrote:
Saiyan Prince Vegeta wrote:Because Goku had absorbed the "other realm" , so now his base form is much higher than his SSJ3 form when he fought Beers. Unless you mean, why isn't base Godku miles behind his Godly SSJ form. Maybe his God power changes the way the SSJ forms work. I really don't know about that one. :P
and this was already noticed in the Buu saga, we have Gohan vs. Dabura for example, Gohan was holding his own at base form, then when he transformed to SSJ or SSJ2 or whatever he used, it didn't tip the scales all that much. Same for the Broly's second coming, Gohan was holding his own at base in the beginning of the fight. Its like multipliers went lower and lower over a period of time.
Beers may have only been using like 3-10% of his power when fighting base Godku, so I don't want to say much until I see that fight. We do know however, that Beers was using 70% of his power to fight SSJ Godku , and that was enough for him to be stronger than Goku. Oh, the reason I said 3-10% just was because Beers sounds like he was dominating Godku, so if he gets 50x from SSJ, then he would be like 1 - 1.4% Beers power in his base. I really need see the fight for myself before I come to a conclusion. :P

In the manga Gohan fought Dabra as a SSJ from the start, well it appears that way from what we see. :)
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Post by alakazam^ » Tue Apr 02, 2013 3:35 pm

Like you said, he still thought he was SSJG so, when he powered from base to SSJ, in his mind, he was just releasing more power as SSSJG. Since he mastered SSJ, he probably wouldn't feel any difference, just like he didn't.

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Post by Eternal Super Saiyan » Tue Apr 02, 2013 3:43 pm

[quote="Saiyan Prince Vegeta"]
In the manga Gohan fought Dabra as a SSJ from the start, well it appears that way from what we see. :)

Then this means the anime is BS. I guess I'll go back to the manga. :crazy:
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