"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

Discussion specifically regarding the "Dragon Ball Super" TV series premiering July 2015 in Japan, including individual threads for each episode.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by LightBing » Sat Dec 19, 2015 7:33 pm

I wonder..., if Zunos is watered will flowers grow from his bald spots? His "chair" looks like a vase.
His planet looked pretty cool in the manga, I hope the anime provides some beautiful art of the floating temples.

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Post by fadeddreams5 » Sat Dec 19, 2015 7:45 pm

I want Monaca to shoot white, silky ki blasts from his nipples.
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Post by Sodhi » Sun Dec 20, 2015 12:50 am

I posted ssj3 vs beerus fight from blu ray. If anyone was curious what the whole fight looked like in motion.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0PPLPJ5sb0k

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Retan » Sun Dec 20, 2015 1:17 am

Thank you Sodhi that looks 10x Better!! :thumbup:

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Post by Lord Beerus » Sun Dec 20, 2015 1:39 am

Sodhi wrote:I posted ssj3 vs beerus fight from blu ray. If anyone was curious what the whole fight looked like in motion.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0PPLPJ5sb0k
Man, it just makes what we got during the original TV broadcast of the this episode all the more upsetting in hindsight. If Toei only got their shit together in time. Oh well. I know this may be asking much, but could you also post the SSJ1/2 portion of the fight as well considering that got major changes too.

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by DragonHermit » Sun Dec 20, 2015 2:48 am

Damn, that looks so much better.

What I'm pissed off about is that out of all the bad things an anime could suffer from it has to be animation, especially when it's such a big anime by such a big company.

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Blade » Sun Dec 20, 2015 5:16 am

DragonHermit wrote:Damn, that looks so much better.

What I'm pissed off about is that out of all the bad things an anime could suffer from it has to be animation, especially when it's such a big anime by such a big company.
Toei have rarely ever been noted for the artistic integrity of their products. They make their money by being able to churn out so much content under the names of the big Jump titles that they license, they never have been and never will be Studio Ghibli. They're a big name with too many irons in the fire and too few skilled hands on the work floor. The most talented artists and animators that Toei are able to call upon are rarely given time enough and sufficient free-reign to aptly demonstrate the best of their abilities.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by SSJGBGoku » Sun Dec 20, 2015 10:15 am

So following titles were revealed by Gojiitaaf :

January 17th: Goku's conclusive Kamehameha
January 24th: Arrival!! God of Destruction Champa
January 31st: Toward the era of a showdown between universes!!

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Post by Basaku » Sun Dec 20, 2015 12:25 pm

SSJGBGoku wrote:So following titles were revealed by Gojiitaaf :

January 17th: Goku's conclusive Kamehameha
January 24th: Arrival!! God of Destruction Champa
January 31st: Toward the era of a showdown between universes!!
What about Dec 27 and Jan 10?

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by JulieYBM » Sun Dec 20, 2015 12:44 pm

Blade wrote:
DragonHermit wrote:Damn, that looks so much better.

What I'm pissed off about is that out of all the bad things an anime could suffer from it has to be animation, especially when it's such a big anime by such a big company.
Toei have rarely ever been noted for the artistic integrity of their products. They make their money by being able to churn out so much content under the names of the big Jump titles that they license, they never have been and never will be Studio Ghibli. They're a big name with too many irons in the fire and too few skilled hands on the work floor. The most talented artists and animators that Toei are able to call upon are rarely given time enough and sufficient free-reign to aptly demonstrate the best of their abilities.
Studio Ghibli isn't exactly known for artistic integrity, either. Never mind how often they or their founders adapt stories, they also tend to force their animators to stick to the character designs and not express themselves.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Baggie_Saiyan » Sun Dec 20, 2015 1:46 pm

Basaku wrote:
SSJGBGoku wrote:So following titles were revealed by Gojiitaaf :

January 17th: Goku's conclusive Kamehameha
January 24th: Arrival!! God of Destruction Champa
January 31st: Toward the era of a showdown between universes!!
What about Dec 27 and Jan 10?
Dec 27th- All out Battle, the Vengeful Golden Freeza. Nothing has been revealed for Jan 10 yet, but I assume it will be about Goku being lasered, found out next week.

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Post by Hellspawn28 » Sun Dec 20, 2015 2:55 pm

I guess Kibitoshin's defusion will probably happen off screen if Champa is arriving on the 24th.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Neon Z » Sun Dec 20, 2015 3:16 pm

Hellspawn28 wrote:I guess Kibitoshin's defusion will probably happen off screen if Champa is arriving on the 24th.
I'd guess it'll be mixed with the part about going to Namek to resurrect Piccolo. Maybe the first half of the Champa introductory episode, rather than mixed with the Freeza battle.

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Blade » Sun Dec 20, 2015 3:39 pm

JulieYBM wrote:
Blade wrote:
DragonHermit wrote:Damn, that looks so much better.

What I'm pissed off about is that out of all the bad things an anime could suffer from it has to be animation, especially when it's such a big anime by such a big company.
Toei have rarely ever been noted for the artistic integrity of their products. They make their money by being able to churn out so much content under the names of the big Jump titles that they license, they never have been and never will be Studio Ghibli. They're a big name with too many irons in the fire and too few skilled hands on the work floor. The most talented artists and animators that Toei are able to call upon are rarely given time enough and sufficient free-reign to aptly demonstrate the best of their abilities.
Studio Ghibli isn't exactly known for artistic integrity, either. Never mind how often they or their founders adapt stories, they also tend to force their animators to stick to the character designs and not express themselves.
Well, I'd argue that it's debatable if delivering a consistent (but high quality) product goes against the grain of artistic integrity. One could argue that Ghibli are a good example of how a talent pool can be project-managed to realise a single artistic vision in the animated medium. To give an analogy, it's a little bit like an orchestra of excellent musicians being well-rehearsed and performing a piece of music to the exact specification of its notation as opposed to being allowed to improvise and self-express wildly, potentially detracting from the cohesion of the performance.

I think in the example of Dragonball Super, Yamamuro is probably the polar opposite of that, where the recognisable influence of his character designs can be seen in the work of every animator, but he lacks the overarching vision, professional integrity and a production scope (and, arguably, project management expertise to boot) to bring it together.

I recognise that not all of the Ghibli films are award-season-material, but I think anyone would struggle to argue against the enduring legacy of Ghibli's output.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by JulieYBM » Sun Dec 20, 2015 4:35 pm

Actually, I would argue Miyazaki and Yamamuro are cut from the same cloth. Both rub out the character from the works those under them create to achieve their visions, rather than work with the abilities and ideas of their staff to present all of their ideas in a cohesive fashion. A Miyazaki movie is uniformly Miyazaki (although he supposedly was less strict with Kanada Yoshinori) and a Yamamuro movie is strictly Yamamuro, outside of some effects animation. It's the same with One Piece Film: Strong World and One Piece Film: Z in recent years, strictly in line with Oda Ei'ichirou's ideas (as supervised by Satou Masayuki) rather than the more creatively free environment of Episode of Chopper.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Lord Beerus » Sun Dec 20, 2015 6:01 pm

SSJGBGoku wrote:So following titles were revealed by Gojiitaaf :

January 17th: Goku's conclusive Kamehameha
January 24th: Arrival!! God of Destruction Champa
January 31st: Toward the era of a showdown between universes!!
So judging from this, there is going to be no slice of life filler or any kind in-between the ROF arc and the Champa arc? Good. The quicker we get to the Universe 6 shit, the better.

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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Sun Dec 20, 2015 6:07 pm

Just because there's none between the two arcs doesn't mean we won't have any "filler" at all. They can get to Champa and the tournament announcement, then give us some fluff for the five days before the tournament. Not saying it's likely, but still possible.
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Post by FortuneSSJ » Sun Dec 20, 2015 6:24 pm

TheDevilsCorpse wrote:Just because there's none between the two arcs doesn't mean we won't have any "filler" at all. They can get to Champa and the tournament announcement, then give us some fluff for the five days before the tournament. Not saying it's likely, but still possible.
Its likely. Just like they gave us something before the Cell Games. I don't see any reason to rush things.
We should see Piccolo training too.
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Chuquita » Sun Dec 20, 2015 8:29 pm

I really hope we get filler between F and Uni 6.

I mean, I can always fan-art, but it's still not the same as getting actual filler. 3 YEARS in the Room of Spirit and Time...how can we not get some filler on that?

I wouldn't put it past them to show us nothing of it after that hand blocking last week, but...
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Re: Official Announcement Thread & Discussion

Post by Sodhi » Mon Dec 21, 2015 12:40 am

I think it like this, everything before the tournament is filler.

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