"Dragon Ball Super" Series Official Announcement & Discussion Thread

[Ajay]

Re-orchestrated Kikuchi music would be such a plus!

I'm in two minds on this. I would absolutely love it, and it would be cool to have DB, Z and Super all share the same score, but I think I'd like to see something fresh to go along with the material. I actually really enjoyed the music found in the Ultimate Tenkaichi cutscenes.

Sumitomo is pretty hit and miss for me. His music isn't bad, but it definitely doesn't scream 'This is Dragon Ball!'. I think achieving that feeling will be a necessity in keeping fans like myself happy.

[nato25]

I'm probably going to be minority here but who wants Falconer music back for the dub ?

[TheGmGoken]

I'm probably going to be minority here but who wants Falconer music back for the dub ?

Falconer left in 2003-2004. He's not coming back at all.

Just wait until Falconer Production is inserted via YouTube

[FortuneSSJ]

Sumitomo is pretty hit and miss for me. His music isn't bad, but it definitely doesn't scream 'This is Dragon Ball!'. I think achieving that feeling will be a necessity in keeping fans like myself happy.

Prett much that.

I don't know what to think about him.
I definitely enjoyed his work on BOG. Not memorable like Kikuchi and Tokunaga (seriously what happened to this guy?!) but still good.

But the episodes I saw from Buu Kai (until Goku ssj3) had some meh soundtracks.
That party soundtrack that plays when Goku meets the gang is worst thing i ever heard in this series. But then, scenes like Vegeta's sacrifice and Goku ssj3 were perfect.

[Lord Beerus]

I'm probably going to be minority here but who wants Falconer music back for the dub ?

Sorry, but you may be in the minority for this one. I don't want Faulconer, or even Faulconer-like music, anywhere near Dragon Ball Super.

[SSJGFrieza]

I'm probably going to be minority here but who wants Falconer music back for the dub ?

Unfortunately no

It boggles my mind how some people can prefer the Japanese music over his.

Namek Destruction
Kid Buu theme
Perfect Cell theme
SSJ3 theme
Ginyu transformation
The Dragon theme
Gohan Angers
Goku's Spirit Bomb
Goku's SSJ Transformation

How is the Japanese music better than those?

[Dyno]

It boggles my mind how some people can prefer the Japanese music over his.

Namek Destruction
Kid Buu theme
Perfect Cell theme
SSJ3 theme
Ginyu transformation
The Dragon theme
Gohan Angers
Goku's Spirit Bomb
Goku's SSJ Transformation

How is the Japanese music better than those?

The japanese music is better through something called "opinion", you should learn about it and its meaning.

[SPRSYJN]

Original Japanese score is best. Why would you want to experience someone else's interperetation of the show when you can watch it as it was originally intended? Blows my mind...

[Kakacarrottop]

The Faulconer score didn't return for GT, the Saiyan-Namek Saga redub, Kai (even after the original composer was fired) or BOG, there's no way in hell it'll suddenly return for this. Bruce Faulconer seems content just sitting back and collecting music royalty checks.

[TheGmGoken]

I'm probably going to be minority here but who wants Falconer music back for the dub ?

Unfortunately no

It boggles my mind how some people can prefer the Japanese music over his.

Namek Destruction
Kid Buu theme
Perfect Cell theme
SSJ3 theme
Ginyu transformation
The Dragon theme
Gohan Angers
Goku's Spirit Bomb
Goku's SSJ Transformation

How is the Japanese music better than those?

Besides SSJ3 Theme and Gohan anger. Which one of those was good? Which one was used in context? What does Ginyu transformation has to do with Pure Boo destroying Earth.

[SingleFringe&Sparks]

Original Japanese score is best. Why would you want to experience someone else's interperetation of the show when you can watch it as it was originally intended? Blows my mind...

You already are: not watching it on a Japanese TV, in Japan, let alone dubbed. Heck even as seperate people, you'd interprate the delivery of the acting and music differently than I will.

How is the Japanese music better than those?

Besides SSJ3 Theme and Gohan anger. Which one of those was good? Which one was used in context? What does Ginyu transformation has to do with Pure Boo destroying Earth.[/quote]
i'll give Kid Buu's theme & Hell's Bells being the most fitting themes to the characters they were applied to above most of the other tracks anyday, though there are better themes than the ones listen that I think were much better produced. For example, my favourite theme is "Ox-King Reconsiles" which doesnt even sound like its from the same playlist.

[nato25]

Please don't start a war over original vs dub and all that lol, just wondered who would like it to happen, unlikely as it may be. I absolutely love the theme of the Dragon. I play it every time I collect the Dragon Balls in Xenoverse its perfect. Theres heaps of other great songs in there I like as well which why I want to see it return. Maybe with more silence this time as the Faulconer track was just non-stop all the time. But alas, its not going to happen anyway.

[SPRSYJN]

Original Japanese score is best. Why would you want to experience someone else's interperetation of the show when you can watch it as it was originally intended? Blows my mind...

You already are: not watching it on a Japanese TV, in Japan, let alone dubbed.

I'm talking about the show the creators intended, not the watching experience that the Japanese television broadcasting networks intended. Lol. Just the product itself.

Also, I do watch on a Japanese TV XD

[samuraix123]

I'm probably going to be minority here but who wants Falconer music back for the dub ?

Hmmm Nah...Not really interested in a new soundtrack for the US and I love the Falconer music!

[batistabus]

How is the Japanese music better than those?

Ugh...Faulconer music. I liked it back in the day, but I can't stand it now. I'll be as nice as possible.


Shunsuke Kikuchi is a universally praised, academy award nominated composer.

The music is played selectively. It allows for quiet moments and creates an overall more subtle product. This is compared to the Faulconer tracks that are playing constantly.

There are different music "themes" that play throughout the show. These themes show up in multiple songs that may sound completely different, creating a sense of a unified product. In action scenes, the music is high energy, up-beat, catchy, and fun. Faulconer's take on action scenes doesn't accomplish this mood at all, and instead tries very hard to convey that serious action is taking place with blaring guitar and other loud noises.

The music was recorded from live instruments, which I much prefer to the cheap-sounding synth that is the FUNimation broadcast score.

Subjectively, I just like the melodies a lot better. That doesn't mean I don't like the Super Saiyan 3 theme or the (plagiarized?) Super Buu theme.

Not to mention that it's the original version, and it's really freaking good, so why change it? That would be like if Avatar: The Last Airbender got a weird funk soundtrack in an overseas release.


Not that this has anything to do with DBSuper.

You already are: not watching it on a Japanese TV, in Japan, let alone dubbed.

Might as well just change the plot and animation while we're at it.

[kei17]

Sumitomo is pretty hit and miss for me. His music isn't bad, but it definitely doesn't scream 'This is Dragon Ball!'.

I feel exactly the same way. Though I do like his style, his scores for the franchise have never really felt truly DB-esque to me. They all lack the adventurous and kung-fu-oriented feelings that Dragon Ball needs. Also, when he tries to compose something sounding lighthearted, it always ends up being cheap and extremely cheesy synth music that sticks out like sore thumb. He's better at composing serious sonding music and doesn't seem to be cut out for kids anime.

[samuraix123]

Sumitomo is pretty hit and miss for me. His music isn't bad, but it definitely doesn't scream 'This is Dragon Ball!'.

I feel exactly the same way. Though I do like his style, his scores for the franchise have never really felt truly DB-esque to me. They all lack the adventurous and kung-fu-oriented feelings that Dragon Ball needs. Also, when he tries to compose something sounding lighthearted, it always ends up being cheap and extremely cheesy synth music that sticks out like sore thumb. He's better at composing serious sonding music and doesn't seem to be cut out for kids cartoons.

Kei I am just curious if there are any Japanese kids that you know that have heard the US broadcast score that wished some of them was in the Japanese version? Just a curious question because me and my brother has asked that to each other.

[GotenZ1]

I'm probably going to be minority here but who wants Falconer music back for the dub ?

Unfortunately no

It boggles my mind how some people can prefer the Japanese music over his.

Namek Destruction
Kid Buu theme
Perfect Cell theme
SSJ3 theme
Ginyu transformation
The Dragon theme
Gohan Angers
Goku's Spirit Bomb
Goku's SSJ Transformation

How is the Japanese music better than those?

Obviously people are entitled to their opinions, but if I had to make an argument for Kikuchi aside form the usual, non-technical, "I think it's more competently composed", I'd go with the fact that it is a real orchestra with real instruments. The drums and the flutes give a sense of weight and flight to scenes and even certain characters have their own instruments that play when they come in. Falconer does similar things, but can feel very overbearing and forced, not to mention it definitely sounds more computerized.

In regards to Dragonball Super, I specifically want the Kikuchi type of sound to return so that it really FEELS like Dragonball. The new digital animation on a TV budget is going to be different enough for me and keeping the sound of DB/Z intact would be very helpful. I even grew up watching DBZ on Toonami, so I have a nostalgia for Falconer...but once I heard the original music, I really didn't hesitate to peg the Kikuchi score as my favorite.

I found Sumimoto's score in BoG to be very distracting and it was the only part of the movie that really felt OFF to me. Not BAD, just off. I really would have liked him to try and echo Kikuchi's cues just a little bit.

[Hellspawn28]

Have you guys seen any people outside the web talking about the news? I seen several people at my community college talking about. I even I saw a two cops eating at sub-way eating during their break today talking about it with each other surprisingly enough. The one of the cop seems like he was a pretty big fan since he knew who Akira Toriyama was and talk about how Toriyama had nothing to do with GT. It's cool to see locals talking about this news. It remind me how it was last year when I saw locals talking about the Japanese Godzilla films to each other in public.

[bleed0range]

Do you guys think the Kai opening for the Buu arc is a good indicator of what the animation will look like/the quality of it?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XwYKH3PFbi8