Things that grind your gears

[Nightmare Wheel]

Anyone who makes a "just Saiyan" joke. It stopped being funny years ago, now it's just annoying.

[Gog]

Anyone who makes a "just Saiyan" joke. It stopped being funny years ago, now it's just annoying.

Yeah the joke is aggravating. However I'm just Saiyan that. However at the end of the day your just Saiyan what grinds your gears and even though I don't like the TeamFourStar joke and think it's been done to literal death. I can appreciate the influence that it has had on the fandom, I'm just Saiyan that's all.

Okay another thing which grinds my gears is constant, popular misinformation in the franchise. It's lead to some pretty annoying lies popping up, probably the most popular of them is that Kold is stronger than Freeza in his second form.

[Anime Kitten]

"Black arc". It's about Zamasu in general, not specifically Black. I can tolerate "Future Trunks arc" because that's the official name (also with quotation marks around "Future"), but if you're going to use a fan name, might as well use an accurate one!

[TheGodfather93]

Anyone who makes a "just Saiyan" joke. It stopped being funny years ago, now it's just annoying.

Not as annoying as the 'Broly's power is maximum' phrase, that's still commonly used in discussion threads about Broly. I rarely see 'just saiyan' used these days.

[Cure Dragon 255]

Anyone who makes a "just Saiyan" joke. It stopped being funny years ago, now it's just annoying.

Not as annoying as the 'Broly's power is maximum' phrase, that's still commonly used in discussion threads about Broly. I rarely see 'just saiyan' used these days.

HIS POWER LEVEL IS MAXIMUM.

Sorry couldnt resist lol.

[Gog]

"Black arc". It's about Zamasu in general, not specifically Black. I can tolerate "Future Trunks arc" because that's the official name (also with quotation marks around "Future"), but if you're going to use a fan name, might as well use an accurate one!

Let's be honest here Black Goku was the one who held that arc and nobody cares about Zamasu, who literally managed to tick all the cliche dragon ball villain boxes. And to be fair Zamasu is Black, but Black is literally a better Zamasu.

[snaku]

"Black arc". It's about Zamasu in general, not specifically Black. I can tolerate "Future Trunks arc" because that's the official name (also with quotation marks around "Future"), but if you're going to use a fan name, might as well use an accurate one!

To be fair, calling it the Zamasu arc spoils the mystery behind Black's identity that the show does try to play up for the first half of the story. I'm perfectly fine with calling it the Black arc, simply because he's there from the very first episode, and he is the driving force behind everything that happens in the story.

[Anime Kitten]

Let's be honest here Black Goku was the one who held that arc and nobody cares about Zamasu, who literally managed to tick all the cliche dragon ball villain boxes. And to be fair Zamasu is Black, but Black is literally a better Zamasu.

Yeah, well, that's just your OPINION! In all seriousness, though, and curiously, why "Black Gokū"?

To be fair, calling it the Zamasu arc spoils the mystery behind Black's identity that the show does try to play up for the first half of the story. I'm perfectly fine with calling it the Black arc, simply because he's there from the very first episode, and he is the driving force behind everything that happens in the story.

I can agree with most of that, but I feel like by the time Future Zamasu comes, it's more about the two Zamasu in general than just Black. As for the surprise being spoiled, that's what "Future Trunks arc" is for, right?

[Gog]

Let's be honest here Black Goku was the one who held that arc and nobody cares about Zamasu, who literally managed to tick all the cliche dragon ball villain boxes. And to be fair Zamasu is Black, but Black is literally a better Zamasu.

Yeah, well, that's just your OPINION! In all seriousness, though, and curiously, why "Black Gokū"?

( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) I love opinions. But being serious now Goku Black held up the arc, Goku Black was the main spectacle, he was the most enjoyable part of the arc. Not Zamasu, who while entertaining was just a cliched Dragon Ball Villain, not Trunks and his asspulls. But Goku Black.

[TekTheNinja]

That leads into a thing that grinds my gears. People saying Black was better than Zamasu. I MEAN HOW? And Zamasu was WAY better voice acted than Black. Sure, Nozawa nailed the evil Goku voice, but Zamasu's voice was truly chilling at times. The death scream and "Son Goku!" Shout really stand out.

[Jinzoningen MULE]

That leads into a thing that grinds my gears. People saying Black was better than Zamasu. I MEAN HOW? And Zamasu was WAY better voice acted than Black. Sure, Nozawa nailed the evil Goku voice, but Zamasu's voice was truly chilling at times. The death scream and "Son Goku!" Shout really stand out.

For me, both villains were good on their own, but it was their dynamic that made for such a wonderfully memorable villain. As for their voices, I definitely lean towards Zamasu, he out-ranges Nozawa so drastically that it's not even close. Nozawa was good for what she was doing, but so locked on the sinister side. I didn't buy that she was Zamasu.

[Saikyo no Senshi]

And Zamasu was WAY better voice acted than Black. Sure, Nozawa nailed the evil Goku voice, but Zamasu's voice was truly chilling at times. The death scream and "Son Goku!" Shout really stand out.

Subjective. I love Miki, but Black's charisma as Nozawa captured was just the best thing about the arc. Black was just the best part so I can see why people like him more.

[DBZ Macky]

I think Miki's performance as Zamasu is equally as good as Nozawa's Black. The major thing that makes Black so appealing is how his personality is portrayed in the Anime IMO. I also think Black's somewhat bland personality in the Manga really makes the arc lose a part of its appeal.

[mfwlegend3]

Black's charisma as Nozawa captured was just the best thing about the arc.

This. https://youtu.be/1hKHqd2qYf8?t=41s

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People who claim Vegetto definitely won't appear in the Super manga simply because of how his appearance in the anime was mainly a result of nostalgia. Completely disregarding how Future Trunks alone was brought back for the sake of nostalgia, with Toriyama even mentioning how he'd hope the kids would be happy with his return. Vegetto, being a potara fusion, was a perfect clash against Merged Zamasu, a potara fusion. Toyotaro could use Vegetto to render Merged Zamasu useless whether by wasting most of his power or inflicting some kind of damage on his body which allows Future Trunks to deliver the finishing blow.

[Gog]

That leads into a thing that grinds my gears. People saying Black was better than Zamasu. I MEAN HOW? And Zamasu was WAY better voice acted than Black. Sure, Nozawa nailed the evil Goku voice, but Zamasu's voice was truly chilling at times. The death scream and "Son Goku!" Shout really stand out.

The reason why the general opinion of Black Goku being light years of Zamasu. Is his personality, while Zamasu literally managed to tick all the boxes of what makes generic Dragon Ball Villain, Black Goku managed to avoid all of them. In the end the voice's only served to enhance the character and unfortunately for Zamasu, Black was light years ahead of him.

[TekTheNinja]

Subjective.

Well duh. This thread is pretty much ALL ABOUT subjectivity.

[Robo4900]

People calling Beerus "Bills". Just... No, okay? No.

[Alruneia]

People calling Beerus "Bills". Just... No, okay? No.

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I hear that it's the correct translation in some dubs. Exactly which, I'm not sure, but allegedly the Italian one at least. I support naming consistency, so if all used names are from the same dub, then it's fine by me even if some translations seem odd.

[Jinzoningen MULE]

People calling Beerus "Bills". Just... No, okay? No.

I mean... it's not correct, but it's not incorrect enough for me to care.

[MathSSJ]

People calling Beerus "Bills". Just... No, okay? No.

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I hear that it's the correct translation in some dubs. Exactly which, I'm not sure, but allegedly the Italian one at least. I support naming consistency, so if all used names are from the same dub, then it's fine by me even if some translations seem odd.

Bills is used pretty much in the entirety of Latin America.