Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie #1 Thread: "Broly"

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Re: Official "DB Super 2018 Movie" Discussion Thread

Post by GTx10 » Fri Mar 23, 2018 11:43 pm

Wait, wait, wait! Toriyama draws a new image of Son Goku in a simple style, the style that everyone screams is great and easy to animate and yet some folks don't like the picture? I... Wha... (Head explodes)


I am calling hypocrisy.
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Post by JulieYBM » Sat Mar 24, 2018 12:36 am

I wonder if we'll get something of a semblance of a plot outline at this current event?
GTx10 wrote:Wait, wait, wait! Toriyama draws a new image of Son Goku in a simple style, the style that everyone screams is great and easy to animate and yet some folks don't like the picture? I... Wha... (Head explodes)


I am calling hypocrisy.
If you're going to cry hypocrisy do not you reckon you should have the gumption to call out specific people or just not do it at all if you are going to make no point?
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Re: Official "DB Super 2018 Movie" Discussion Thread

Post by sintzu » Sat Mar 24, 2018 1:34 am

AnimeNation101 wrote:Its a joke! Thats not the design for the movie obviously. Its just a recolored design of SSG and UI Goku.
UI was just a recolor of SsjG so at this point it's hard to tell which isn't a joke as that very well could be his design.
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Post by Champa The Destroyer » Sat Mar 24, 2018 1:51 am

I wonder if Goku will achieve yet another Super Saiyan form in the movie, like in BOG and ROF.

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Post by Firebolt » Sat Mar 24, 2018 2:04 am

jeffbr92 wrote:Toriyama Goku design for the movie:

[spoiler]Image[/spoiler]
This looks pretty fake to me - The hair looks as if it's coloured in MS Paint. However if it is real, Toriyama has seriously declined. Goku looks like he hasn't eaten in weeks.

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Post by sintzu » Sat Mar 24, 2018 2:23 am

Champa The Destroyer wrote:I wonder if Goku will achieve yet another Super Saiyan form in the movie, like in BOG and ROF.
We just got MUI for one episode so chances are they'll want to push that more and leave a new form for when Super is back on TV. I think Vegeta might get it and the Saiyan villain could get his own special form so that'll be 2 froms they'll have to promote which is more than enough.
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Post by Champa The Destroyer » Sat Mar 24, 2018 2:40 am

Agreed. I really hope they expand on MUI a lot more in the future.
I think the new animation/art style looks really good, though I'm not sure if I prefer this or how it is in Z/Super.

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Post by sintzu » Sat Mar 24, 2018 2:48 am

Champa The Destroyer wrote:I think the new animation/art style looks really good, though I'm not sure if I prefer this or how it is in Z/Super.
I'm not a fan of it but I think it'd be unfair to give a complete judgement based on a few second trailer. If the story is good and the fighting choreography lives up to what we'd expect from a movie then I can look past the art design, I just hope it doesn't stick around for future series and movies.
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Post by ZeroNeonix » Sat Mar 24, 2018 2:49 am

Champa The Destroyer wrote:I wonder if Goku will achieve yet another Super Saiyan form in the movie, like in BOG and ROF.
I'm predicting he'll combine it with Super Saiyan God and/or Super Saiyan Blue. Or as they would likely call it in games and promotional materials, Ultra Instinct Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan. Maybe the Ultra Instinct versions of the God forms will be bright, pastel versions of the original, since Ultra Instinct is white.

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Post by Hawk9211 » Sat Mar 24, 2018 3:00 am

Firebolt wrote:
jeffbr92 wrote:Toriyama Goku design for the movie:

[spoiler]Image[/spoiler]
This looks pretty fake to me - The hair looks as if it's coloured in MS Paint. However if it is real, Toriyama has seriously declined. Goku looks like he hasn't eaten in weeks.
it was meant to be a joke.
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Re: Official "DB Super 2018 Movie" Discussion Thread

Post by Firebolt » Sat Mar 24, 2018 4:06 am

Hawk9211 wrote:
Firebolt wrote:
jeffbr92 wrote:Toriyama Goku design for the movie:

[spoiler]Image[/spoiler]
This looks pretty fake to me - The hair looks as if it's coloured in MS Paint. However if it is real, Toriyama has seriously declined. Goku looks like he hasn't eaten in weeks.
it was meant to be a joke.
Oh I get it now. Jokes like these kinda hurt Toriyama's reputation, so it'd be best not to make something like this at all.

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Re: Official "DB Super 2018 Movie" Discussion Thread

Post by dbgtFO » Sat Mar 24, 2018 4:19 am

Firebolt wrote:
Hawk9211 wrote:
Firebolt wrote: This looks pretty fake to me - The hair looks as if it's coloured in MS Paint. However if it is real, Toriyama has seriously declined. Goku looks like he hasn't eaten in weeks.
it was meant to be a joke.
Oh I get it now. Jokes like these kinda hurt Toriyama's reputation, so it'd be best not to make something like this at all.
It's like that fake Toriyama-designed Jiren that was posted months ago.
If that had truly been Toriyama's design.. :lol:

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Post by miguelnuva1 » Sat Mar 24, 2018 6:21 am

ZeroNeonix wrote:
Champa The Destroyer wrote:I wonder if Goku will achieve yet another Super Saiyan form in the movie, like in BOG and ROF.
I'm predicting he'll combine it with Super Saiyan God and/or Super Saiyan Blue. Or as they would likely call it in games and promotional materials, Ultra Instinct Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan. Maybe the Ultra Instinct versions of the God forms will be bright, pastel versions of the original, since Ultra Instinct is white.
I see him combining it with regular ssj. Gold hair, silver eyes and the ultra instinct aura inside the ssj aura.

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Post by Xeztin » Sat Mar 24, 2018 9:59 am

So does anyone else wonder if the movies new animation style will be carried back over into the tv series? It does make them look a lot younger, which Tori always had a problem with.

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Post by JazzMazz » Sat Mar 24, 2018 10:06 am

Xeztin wrote:So does anyone else wonder if the movies new animation style will be carried back over into the tv series? It does make them look a lot younger, which Tori always had a problem with.
Who knows at this point? Personally, I think with how Toei and staff in Toei have talked about the designs, I think they would transfer over if a new series does happen.

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Post by majinwarman » Sat Mar 24, 2018 10:26 am

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RedHeat wrote:Toei is supposedly supposed to be dropping even more info about the movie at their booth within the next 24-48hrs so be aware.
Excited! It's like Jump Festa only in March. :mrgreen:

Man, here I was thinking this movie wouldn't have anything for me and the teaser goes ahead and baits me with one of the easiest things to bait me into wanting to know more about it; and that's Goku having fun.

I can't imagine they'll have the info drop until after 131 airs, but I could be wrong.
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Post by SingleFringe&Sparks » Sat Mar 24, 2018 12:56 pm

GTx10 wrote:Wait, wait, wait! Toriyama draws a new image of Son Goku in a simple style, the style that everyone screams is great and easy to animate and yet some folks don't like the picture? I... Wha... (Head explodes) I am calling hypocrisy.
You might be the only person that thinks the BoG sketch and the 2018 redesign looks remotely similar.
Champa The Destroyer wrote:Agreed. I really hope they expand on MUI a lot more in the future. I think the new animation/art style looks really good, though I'm not sure if I prefer this or how it is in Z/Super.
Super has never had a consistent art design to even categorize it as something comparable. It just looks like a mash up of low quality BoG models to off-model in-betweens. Z also went up and down in its art as well between arcs. If this movie is consistent we might finally get something to definitively compare. People are hyping up Takahashi but I hope this movie does not use the excessive layers of face-shadows but just enough for the purpose. I want this movie to look as smooth and life-like as possible.
Zephyr wrote:The fandom's collective fetishizing of "moments" is also ridiculous to me. No, not everyone needs a fucking "shine" moment. If that's all you want, then all you want is fanservice, rather than an actual coherent story. And of course those aren't mutually exclusive; you could have a coherent story with "shine" moments! But if a story is perfectly coherent (and I'm really not seeing any compelling arguments that this one is anything but, despite constantly recurring, really poorly reasoned, attempts to argue otherwise), and you're bemoaning the lack of "shine" moments as a reason for the story's poor quality, then you're letting your thirst for "shine" moments obfuscate your ability to detect basic storytelling when it's right in front of you.

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Post by Champa The Destroyer » Sat Mar 24, 2018 1:21 pm

SingleFringe&Sparks wrote:
GTx10 wrote:Wait, wait, wait! Toriyama draws a new image of Son Goku in a simple style, the style that everyone screams is great and easy to animate and yet some folks don't like the picture? I... Wha... (Head explodes) I am calling hypocrisy.
You might be the only person that thinks the BoG sketch and the 2018 redesign looks remotely similar.
Champa The Destroyer wrote:Agreed. I really hope they expand on MUI a lot more in the future. I think the new animation/art style looks really good, though I'm not sure if I prefer this or how it is in Z/Super.
Super has never had a consistent art design to even categorize it as something comparable. It just looks like a mash up of low quality BoG models to off-model in-betweens. Z also went up and down in its art as well between arcs. If this movie is consistent we might finally get something to definitively compare. People are hyping up Takahashi but I hope this movie does not use the excessive layers of face-shadows but just enough for the purpose. I want this movie to look as smooth and life-like as possible.
Super's animation has been very inconsistent, though many episodes in the TOP have looked very good, especially episode 130.

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Post by SingleFringe&Sparks » Sat Mar 24, 2018 1:46 pm

Champa The Destroyer wrote:Super's animation has been very inconsistent, though many episodes in the TOP have looked very good, especially episode 130.
Those are exceptions that require you to cherrypick them as standout frames.
Zephyr wrote:The fandom's collective fetishizing of "moments" is also ridiculous to me. No, not everyone needs a fucking "shine" moment. If that's all you want, then all you want is fanservice, rather than an actual coherent story. And of course those aren't mutually exclusive; you could have a coherent story with "shine" moments! But if a story is perfectly coherent (and I'm really not seeing any compelling arguments that this one is anything but, despite constantly recurring, really poorly reasoned, attempts to argue otherwise), and you're bemoaning the lack of "shine" moments as a reason for the story's poor quality, then you're letting your thirst for "shine" moments obfuscate your ability to detect basic storytelling when it's right in front of you.

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Post by Champa The Destroyer » Sat Mar 24, 2018 1:53 pm

SingleFringe&Sparks wrote:
Champa The Destroyer wrote:Super's animation has been very inconsistent, though many episodes in the TOP have looked very good, especially episode 130.
Those are exceptions that require you to cherrypick them as standout frames.
True, Super's animation overall isn't that great, but I don't think its horrible like some people say (I've seen a lot of people on Facebook say the animation is awful).

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