Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie #2 Thread: "Super Hero"

[Extreme_kai]

Sad but true, and the situation with Covid is not going to help this movie either.

You say this, but it's the movies released during Covid that are breaking all kinds of box office records
People seem to be bored of staying home for so long, and I'm sure the "I miss DBS" factor will help too. And Broly's presence certainly will.

True, but you do have extra cautious folks(like myself honestly) who aren't keen to do certain things right now. I just might if I was given a bit more to chew on, but so far nothing is making me want to sit in a cinema to watch this. Add in the negative responses to the 3d and it's looking a bit bleak IMO. In the next few months, they are going to have to show something more that's going to get butts in seats. Not saying it will do terribly, but it's not beating Broly. I will gladly break a raw egg on my face I'm wrong lol

[Grimlock]

It seems Vegeta will be seen wearing his Majin Buu saga outfit (which should've been his default appearance since that saga, anyway), based on some toys, apparently.

With Pan and Dende looking older, and the movie taking place in AGE 784, chances are high that Goten and Trunks will look older too (if they appear in the movie at all). So yeah, here's to another several months waiting for their reveal.

[Xeogran]

So yeah, here's to another several months waiting for their reveal.

I'm sure we'll start getting news more often now, after the first trailer. Can see something new in December at the Jump Festa event.

[ObnoxiousNamek]

Sad but true, and the situation with Covid is not going to help this movie either.

You say this, but it's the movies released during Covid that are breaking all kinds of box office records
People seem to be bored of staying home for so long, and I'm sure the "I miss DBS" factor will help too. And Broly's presence certainly will.

True, but that's when its a 2-D film yes the "i miss DBS" factor may help but not much.

[pepd]

I actually like the non-action visuals, it reminds me of DQ; but the action scenes do leave a lot to be desired.

So, the driver seems to be the villain head (he adjusts his glasses villainously). The kid is shown in a (hero?) costume, and a lab coat (so he is a scientists?). The driver knew a man dressed in a similar costume. The kid is persuaded (by his thug?) in the car. Mr.Satan is shown in the machine the lists Gokuu, Vegeta and Buu with villainous faces.

My first though is that the dad was a hero, it happened something with Mr.Satan (or that's what the driver tells him), the kid is a genius and a hero wanna be. The RR convices him to finance him and directs him or his creations against those they consider a threat to their plans.

[Gt91]

Imagine MUI Goku vs Broly.
Imagine Broly ,with a new power up, training with Whis/Beerus.
Imagine Trunks and Goten versus the 2 new enemies, a potara fusion and more!

So MUCH POTENTIAL.

I'm really happy to see Piccolo, Pan and Broly!
I dont' mind the CGI, its' very similar to a ps4 game. It's good for me.


There's Vegeta too:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FBHaOZ5X0Ag ... ame=medium

[Jackalope89]

For the trailer, it was a "blink and you miss it" but Broly will be in the movie as well.

The 3D animation looks like straight from DBZ Kakarot, and I'm still on the fence if that's good or not. But with Pan, the Red Ribbon Army, Broly, etc, it looks to be very interesting plot wise.

[Lord Beerus]

Wow... that teaser trailer looked like dog shit. And there hasn't been anything show that seriously piques my interest in this film from a narrative perspective.

God... the only possible sliver of interest for me so far is that Broly is going to appear, but I have a horrible feeling it will be a glorified cameo.

The fact they still have provided a date for when they want to release the film for next year also concerns me as well. Unless Toei trying to organise a simultaneous worldwide release and they haven't sorted that part out yet.

For all the flak that the former Broly movie got for being a cashgrab this one seems like WAYY more of a cashgrab with nothing truly new or interesting & banking on brand name recognition alone.

DBS Broly is a classic case of an average script that was substantially elevated by a phenomenal production. DBS Superhero does not have that same visual luxury, so it's going to have to rely on the script to do the heavy lifting.

[LoganForkHands73]

So yeah... It looks godawful. Sucks. Well, can't say I didn't give it a chance.

Normally, I don't care for hype culture, but any anticipation is pretty much sub-zero at this point. I mean, I love Dende, Karin and Bulma but did they really expect huge ovations for their new designs? They're not exactly crowdpleaser characters from Comic-Con dudebros, let's be honest. Not that I want them to spoil the whole movie, but it felt like there was plenty more to talk about regarding Buu, Broly, the Red Ribbon stuff, the timeline placement, etc. After the hype tornado that was Super: Broly, you'd think the marketing team would have their fingers on the pulse, but they may have been replaced with poorly trained manatees in disguise.

If Golden Freeza was received as a step back after Beerus, the Red Ribbon Army suddenly showing their logos again after the likes of Broly, Moro and Granola is like a quadruple backflip back to the starting line. Unless they have another Cell or Android #21 up their sleeves, what threat can they possibly pose? I get that they're going for a real low-stakes story but, like, come on.

Nothing's all bad though. Some shots of Goku, Pan, Piccolo and the new #1/#2 Cyborg dudes look pretty nice. I am still interested in how they'll all be implemented.

Also, funny how they seem taken completely off-guard by the fact that someone asked about the Granola arc. Guess it goes to show how little they care for the V-Jump manga.

[danyq94]

I add my own speculation:

-Gamma 1 and 2 are hero androids created with the dna of Goku, Vegeta, Buu and Mr. Satan (seen in the screenshot of the year 2022). Interestingly, Vegeta seems to be from the Mecha Frieza arc, since he has the BAD MAN shirt;
-Also in the capsules we see that the faces of the good protagonists have an evil grin on them. This leads to...
-Gamma 1 and 2 attacks Piccolo. Maybe in the capsules have not only inserted the DNA of the various fighters, but also the targets, directed precisely to Goku, Piccolo and co.
-In the first screen of the teaser we see that the driver was with a guy dressed as a Japanese Super Hero, outfit that the child is also wearing, maybe he is a fan?
-Pan is wearing a t-shirt with GTH written on it. Some people see GT (which may be) but GTH can also mean Goth. And underneath she has the stylized face of a devil, relating to her mother Videl and grandpa Satan;
-I think the RR in this movie wants to make a name for himself eliminating his oppressors (the Z warriors) and taking the helm of the "heroic face" of the world;
-The movie is set 10 years after Buu but before EoZ. If Goten and Trunks are teenagers even in appearance, it's about time.

[Dragon Ball Gus]

Also, funny how they seem taken completely off-guard by the fact that someone asked about the Granola arc. Guess it goes to show how little they care for the V-Jump manga.

That does make you wonder though… whenever the show comes back, are they gonna just gonna adapt the Moro and Granolah Arcs and then skip straight to the story after this film or are they just gonna completely skip those arcs and just have the anime pick up right after this movie?

[Grimlock]

I would normally complain about Red Ribbon's involvement. With the exception of Movie 14, everything else was about bringing someone or something back.

However, Red Ribbon's involvement gives me some Dragon Ball Online vibes, as they are also featured in there (although, they won't appear until centuries after the tournament, and the movie most certainly won't make any nod to it). Still, I can settle on the "vibe feelings".

I'm sure we'll start getting news more often now, after the first trailer. Can see something new in December at the Jump Festa event.

Hopefully, I want to see how the characters will look like badly. But December is far away. Tomorrow should be December/Jump Festa.

If Golden Freeza was received as a step back after Beerus, the Red Ribbon Army suddenly showing their logos again after the likes of Broly, Moro and Granola is like a quadruple backflip back to the starting line. Unless they have another Cell or Android #21 up their sleeves, what threat can they possibly pose? I get that they're going for a real low-stakes story but, like, come on.

They are a threat if their opponents are Pan and Piccolo. Even if Gohan is in the mix, considering the movie takes place four years after Universe Survival saga, Gohan is a lot weaker (I'm not considering whatever happens to Gohan in the manga, since it's possible the movie itself also won't consider the manga events).

We'll see Goku sparring with Broly. Vegeta either sparring too or doing something else, but maybe the focus will indeed be on Pan and Piccolo taking the main action of the movie (?).

(Please give me Super Saiyan Pan, thank you!).

-The movie is set 10 years after Buu but before EoZ. If Goten and Trunks are teenagers even in appearance, it's about time.

This is not speculation, they confirmed that.

[Lord Beerus]

If Golden Freeza was received as a step back after Beerus, the Red Ribbon Army suddenly showing their logos again after the likes of Broly, Moro and Granola is like a quadruple backflip back to the starting line. Unless they have another Cell or Android #21 up their sleeves, what threat can they possibly pose? I get that they're going for a real low-stakes story but, like, come on.

They are a threat if their opponents are Pan and Piccolo. Even if Gohan is in the mix, considering the movie takes place four years after Universe Survival saga, Gohan is a lot weaker (I'm not considering whatever happens to Gohan in the manga, since it's possible the movie itself also won't consider the manga events).

We'll see Goku sparring with Broly. Vegeta either sparring too or doing something else, but maybe the focus will indeed be on Pan and Piccolo taking the main action of the movie (?).

Something like that should be reserved for a filler episode of anime or an OVA or a TV special. Not a movie. Because all this will do will fuel the idea of Pan being a central character, which I don't think Toriyama, Toei or Toyotaro will have any interest in following up on because that would take time and effort to build Pan as a three-dimensional character, and because it's VERY clear that the powers-that-be would be more than happy to relax on nostalgia than gives the franchise a shot in the arm with the usage of the main cast in the long term.

[Hellspawn28]

I find it dumb that people hate on CGI anime, but they are okay with western animation being CGI. Both Japan, Europe, and North America have their fair share of good and bad 3D animation.

[PurestEvil]

I find it dumb that people hate on CGI anime, but they are okay with western animation being CGI. Both Japan, Europe, and North America have their fair share of good and bad 3D animation.

Lupin III: The First is a good example of a CGI anime.
This film is eeehhhhhh

[ObnoxiousNamek]

So yeah... It looks godawful. Sucks. Well, can't say I didn't give it a chance.

Normally, I don't care for hype culture, but any anticipation is pretty much sub-zero at this point. I mean, I love Dende, Karin and Bulma but did they really expect huge ovations for their new designs? They're not exactly crowdpleaser characters from Comic-Con dudebros, let's be honest. Not that I want them to spoil the whole movie, but it felt like there was plenty more to talk about regarding Buu, Broly, the Red Ribbon stuff, the timeline placement, etc. After the hype tornado that was Super: Broly, you'd think the marketing team would have their fingers on the pulse, but they may have been replaced with poorly trained manatees in disguise.

If Golden Freeza was received as a step back after Beerus, the Red Ribbon Army suddenly showing their logos again after the likes of Broly, Moro and Granola is like a quadruple backflip back to the starting line. Unless they have another Cell or Android #21 up their sleeves, what threat can they possibly pose? I get that they're going for a real low-stakes story but, like, come on.

Nothing's all bad though. Some shots of Goku, Pan, Piccolo and the new #1/#2 Cyborg dudes look pretty nice. I am still interested in how they'll all be implemented.

Also, funny how they seem taken completely off-guard by the fact that someone asked about the Granola arc. Guess it goes to show how little they care for the V-Jump manga.

i mentioned this before in this very same thread Iyoku & Hayashida CONSTANTLY seem to be unable to get read on the pulse of what the DB fandom would like to see. I know DB isnt on the same level but look at the MCU. Kevin Feige's uncanny ability to read the pulse of the MCU fandom plays a big part in why their movies are so successful. I think at the least the very least Hayashida as a producer for draagonball needs to be replaced.

[Hellspawn28]

I feel like having a good story is more important by the end of the day. Even if the animation may not be great, a good story will make up for it. I have seen several films with poor production vaules with good writing and good video games with bad graphics. Even some of the bad DBZ films had good animation, but the lackluster script hurt it overall (DBZ Movie 4 comes to mind).

[PurestEvil]

-Pan is wearing a t-shirt with GTH written on it. Some people see GT (which may be) but GTH can also mean Goth. And underneath she has the stylized face of a devil, relating to her mother Videl and grandpa Satan;

I believe GTH means Go To Hell, something that is quite out of the ordinary for a six year old to wear.

[Xeogran]

-Pan is wearing a t-shirt with GTH written on it. Some people see GT (which may be) but GTH can also mean Goth. And underneath she has the stylized face of a devil, relating to her mother Videl and grandpa Satan

GT Heroine
She wears the fingerless gloves of her GT-self in that scene too, so maybe.

[FortuneSSJ]

Can't believe I'm gonna say this but I like what I saw.
The CGI is better than I thought. Not sure if there's some 2D in there. The last shot with Pan and Goku's part afterwards look awesome.

It may be better than what i was expecting, even though it doesn't make sense for them to go in this direction after the critically acclaimed 2D DBS Broly.