The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by The Monkey King » Sun Apr 13, 2014 3:24 pm

If Goku plays it smart with his fighting (more IT and Kienzan) then he can win.

What about Namek saga kaio-ken x20 Goku vs Base Buu saga Gohan.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by KentalSSJ6 » Sun Apr 13, 2014 4:28 pm

The Monkey King wrote:If Goku plays it smart with his fighting (more IT and Kienzan) then he can win.

What about Namek saga kaio-ken x20 Goku vs Base Buu saga Gohan.
Kaio-ken Namek Saga Goku was at 60 Million, half of Freeza's full power.

Couple that with the info that Gohan didn't lose any power and instead was just rusty and lost his rage boost ability, i'd say Gohan takes this. May have some trouble due to being abit rusty but the sheer power difference should be enough to snag a win.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Saiga » Sun Apr 13, 2014 11:57 pm

If we're talking about Kaio-ken x20 Goku in the sense that he's always in the form, without strain, I definitely think he'd take it. Otherwise Gohan would win.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by RandomGuy96 » Sun Apr 13, 2014 11:59 pm

Goku lands a few hits, then gets worn out, causing Gohan to easily win. His only chance to is to hit Gohan with a Kamehameha, like he did with Freeza, and hope like hell that Gohan doesn't dodge or throw his own Kamehameha.
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dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by TheGmGoken » Mon Apr 14, 2014 12:07 am

RandomGuy96 wrote:Goku lands a few hits, then gets worn out, causing Gohan to easily win. His only chance to is to hit Gohan with a Kamehameha, like he did with Freeza, and hope like hell that Gohan doesn't dodge or throw his own Kamehameha.
Or worse. Tank it. That foreshadows a beatdown

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by The Monkey King » Mon Apr 14, 2014 6:51 am

Saiga wrote:If we're talking about Kaio-ken x20 Goku in the sense that he's always in the form, without strain, I definitely think he'd take it. Otherwise Gohan would win.
Yup, that's exactly what I am talking about.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Piccolo jr » Mon Apr 14, 2014 7:58 am

Nail vs Recoome

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Post by TheGmGoken » Mon Apr 14, 2014 9:09 am

Piccolo jr wrote:Nail vs Recoome
Done to death. But Nail beats all GF members(1V1) with a decent fight. With exception of Ginyu.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Bullza » Mon Apr 14, 2014 7:24 pm

Whis vs Buu after absorbing every other character to appear in the series.

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Post by TheGmGoken » Mon Apr 14, 2014 7:42 pm

I doubt Whis is that strong. Boi with Vegetto or Beerus should be enough.

Ssj(Or SSJ2 if you think he's SSJ2) Gohan vs Dabura had the fight finish.

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Post by Saiga » Mon Apr 14, 2014 8:08 pm

Bullza wrote:Whis vs Buu after absorbing every other character to appear in the series.
Does that include God Goku? Because God Goku and Beerus combined would easily be enough.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Pantalones » Mon Apr 14, 2014 9:37 pm

Yeah... a Buu who managed to absorb both Beers and SSj God Goku would be able to overpower Whis, going by the "if SSj God Goku is a 6, then Beers at full power is a 10 and Whis is 15" statement of how the three highest-end characters in the series compare.

I suppose Buu with Beers + Vegerot absorbed might also be enough to pull off something, too, depending on where exactly you want to put Vegerot in comparison to the Battle of Gods group (we know Beers is supposed to be the strongest in all of Z, at least prior to Whis's power being alluded to as even higher... and Goku seemed pretty convinced that fusion wouldn't help. So I guess SSj3 Vegerot could still be as high as a 5 on the "Beers = 10" scale without going against the stated facts of "Beers is the strongest aside from Whis" and "SSj God has to be Goku's best chance of putting up a fight.")

...That is, assuming that absorbing two guys full of god ki wouldn't mess Buu up, anyway. Since it seems that Dai Kaioshin had a weakening/calming effect on Buu due to a combination of his pure-hearted nature and godly ki, it's possible that Super Saiyan God Goku would also have a not-so-beneficial effect on Buu's power. Or at the very least change his personality quite a bit so that he's no longer so much of a threat. Maybe instead of a "magical childlike innocent" Buu like the fat one was, you'd end up getting a Buu who loves fighting strong opponents but also doesn't really have any interest in the random-destruction thing anymore? A very different sort of "good Buu," almost like Goku absorbed Buu rather than the other way around, at least personality-wise. It's hard to say what effect Beers might have, also.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Bullza » Mon Apr 14, 2014 10:46 pm

I suppose it could include God Goku but would Buu be able to activate that power? Same with Vegito, Buu could absorb Vegito but would he able to bring out his SSJ3 power and even then would it last long enough for Buu to win?

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Pantalones » Tue Apr 15, 2014 12:16 am

Yeah, that's also a good point. If Buu absorbed SSj God Goku after Goku was already in Super Saiyan God form, then yeah, I would assume he'd have access to the power of that transformation (at least until it ran out); same with any other form/fusion that's running on a time limit--he did get SSj3 Gotenks' power after all, and only lost it due to the kids unfusing and dropping back to base form inside him. He also got Gohan's "ultimate" power, and I know some people don't count that as a "transformation" but pretty much every depiction of him using it requires him activating it just like he's going to transform into Super Saiyan (that's even how the old Kaioshin described the method of turning it on), so it's still somewhat similar even though it doesn't come with any physical change or strain/restlessness or gradual loss of energy like the SSj forms do.

Though with SSj God at least, he could "absorb that realm of power" like Goku himself did and be able to hang onto at least most of it after the transformation wears off. No such luck with SSj3, dance fusions, or anything else that can't be held permanently--Buu probably isn't able to "re-activate" SSj3 or "re-fuse" Gotenks inside his body once they wear off, for example.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Bullza » Tue Apr 15, 2014 1:49 am

Just to add this wouldn't be including God Goku and Vegito, it'd be either one or the other for obvious reasons. It'd be everyone that Buu could possibly absorb against Whis.

Though I guess as 99.9% of characters are completely worthless and even combined wouldn't add up to 1 (If Whis was a 15 etc) then I suppose for simplicity's sake it'd be Buu after absorbing Beerus, God Goku, Vegeta, Gohan and Gotenks vs Whis.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by ZombieVito » Tue Apr 15, 2014 4:36 am

CG Piccolo vs SSJG2 Trunks (1st RoSaT).

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by RandomGuy96 » Tue Apr 15, 2014 4:49 am

Piccolo wins easily. He's stronger, more skilled, AND doesn't have stamina problems.
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dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.
It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWoke
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by TheGmGoken » Tue Apr 15, 2014 11:13 am

Zombie wrote:CG Piccolo vs SSJG2 Trunks (1st RoSaT).
It'll go the same way as Perfect Cell fight with filler.

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Post by TheGmGoken » Tue Apr 15, 2014 11:13 am

Zombie wrote:CG Piccolo vs SSJG2 Trunks (1st RoSaT).
It'll go the same way as Perfect Cell fight with filler.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by DannyDBZfanforever » Tue Apr 15, 2014 5:18 pm

Toriko Vs Saiyan Saga Vegeta
Toriko, Zebra, Sanny and Coco Vs Ginyu Force (without Ginyu)
Metal Cooler, King Cold and Mecha Frieza Vs #18
Semi Perfect Cell Vs Super Saiyan Goten
Perfect Cell (the fights with SSJ grade 2 Vegeta) Vs SSJ Goten and SSJ Trunks

Some help here, guys...

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