SS3 Future Gohan would be nowhere near Perfect Cell. SS3 is only x8 regular SS, and regular SS Future Gohan was weaker than Mecha arc SS Trunks. A Cell Junior would slaughter him.KentalSSJ6 wrote:Anyone wanna get it on this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AAjjKdBYqd4
I have SSJ3 Mirai Gohan around Super Perfect Cell (maybe less due to only one arm). So, my money is on Goku with relative ease. Maybe only needing SSJ2.
The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread
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The Monkey King wrote:It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWokeRandomGuy96 wrote:He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.
Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread
Bills has been states do be stronger than anyone in Z,right?in bog vegetto has been left behind,like it or not.Rocketman wrote:Godku is weaker than Vegetto, but Vegetto has the unfortunate side-effect of looking too much like Vegeta, and that just doesn't get Japan's willy to salute.
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Bills are only strong if you're poor. Now BEERUS was stated to be the strongest besides Whis.DieHard wrote:Bills has been states do be stronger than anyone in Z,right?in bog vegetto has been left behind,like it or not.Rocketman wrote:Godku is weaker than Vegetto, but Vegetto has the unfortunate side-effect of looking too much like Vegeta, and that just doesn't get Japan's willy to salute.
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I doubt Goku is 8x stronger than Future Gohan so SSJ2 Goku would win.RandomGuy96 wrote:SS3 Future Gohan would be nowhere near Perfect Cell. SS3 is only x8 regular SS, and regular SS Future Gohan was weaker than Mecha arc SS Trunks. A Cell Junior would slaughter him.KentalSSJ6 wrote:Anyone wanna get it on this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AAjjKdBYqd4
I have SSJ3 Mirai Gohan around Super Perfect Cell (maybe less due to only one arm). So, my money is on Goku with relative ease. Maybe only needing SSJ2.
Guldo vs Zarbon. Honestly I doubt Guldo would win.
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SS Goku (Buu arc) is DEFINITELY far more than eight times stronger than SS Future Gohan. CG SS Goku certainly is as well.xmysticgohanx wrote:I doubt Goku is 8x stronger than Future Gohan so SSJ2 Goku would win.RandomGuy96 wrote:SS3 Future Gohan would be nowhere near Perfect Cell. SS3 is only x8 regular SS, and regular SS Future Gohan was weaker than Mecha arc SS Trunks. A Cell Junior would slaughter him.KentalSSJ6 wrote:Anyone wanna get it on this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AAjjKdBYqd4
I have SSJ3 Mirai Gohan around Super Perfect Cell (maybe less due to only one arm). So, my money is on Goku with relative ease. Maybe only needing SSJ2.
Guldo vs Zarbon. Honestly I doubt Guldo would win.
If Guldo couldn't beat Zarbon, he wouldn't be on the Ginyu Force. He can just use his psychic powers to stop Zarbon's heart.
The Monkey King wrote:It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWokeRandomGuy96 wrote:He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.
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You sure Zarbon wouldn't just one shot him?
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread
SS3 Goku (28th Tenkaichi Budokai) vs Pure Boo
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Was such thing stated to be even possible?RandomGuy96 wrote:If Guldo couldn't beat Zarbon, he wouldn't be on the Ginyu Force. He can just use his psychic powers to stop Zarbon's heart.
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.
Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread
Wait,future #17 defeated future gohan with half of his power,and goku scared a lot of people stronger than future #17 in the cell games arc with just half his power,so goku is CONFIRMER 4x stronger than future gohan.But that's the very least,he is surely 8x stronger.xmysticgohanx wrote: I doubt Goku is 8x stronger than Future Gohan so SSJ2 Goku would win.
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For once I agree with you. If Guldo had access to that sort of power, why bother throwing a sharpened tree at Gohan and Krillin when he could just make their hearts stop?DBZGTKOSDH wrote:Was such thing stated to be even possible?RandomGuy96 wrote:If Guldo couldn't beat Zarbon, he wouldn't be on the Ginyu Force. He can just use his psychic powers to stop Zarbon's heart.
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I know this has been asked before, but...how strong are Abo and Cado separately and together? It seems a bit silly for them to be First Form Freeza level, but that is exactly what Tarble pictures in the manga...so it seems like they are. Is it possible that Goten and Trunks were just really sucking?...I mean I don't think they really got hurt that much when they were beat on, but even the low levels I see of the boys Should still crush them. Aka I think is below SSJ Goku because of how he was taken out...but that's it..
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Looking over the manga entirely, it seems fine for them to be that weak. Goten and Trunks were playing and Abo and Cado just fuse right away.
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Looking over the manga entirely, it seems fine for them to be that weak. Goten and Trunks were playing and Abo and Cado just fuse right away.
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I want to hear some answers to this question:
Perfect Cell Full power Vs SSJ Goku (Majin Buu Saga)
PC Full Power Vs SSJ 1 Vegeta (Buu Saga)
SSJ 1 Trunks (android Saga) Vs Piccolo (with the same power level than He had against #20/ Gero, just before the merged with Kani-Sama)
Perfect Cell Full power Vs SSJ Goku (Majin Buu Saga)
PC Full Power Vs SSJ 1 Vegeta (Buu Saga)
SSJ 1 Trunks (android Saga) Vs Piccolo (with the same power level than He had against #20/ Gero, just before the merged with Kani-Sama)
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1 and 2. Cell wins as Goku isn't that much stronger than Gohan of Cg and I HAVE VEGETA weaker or equal to Cg Gohan.DannyDBZfanforever wrote:I want to hear some answers to this question:
Perfect Cell Full power Vs SSJ Goku (Majin Buu Saga)
PC Full Power Vs SSJ 1 Vegeta (Buu Saga)
SSJ 1 Trunks (android Saga) Vs Piccolo (with the same power level than He had against #20/ Gero, just before the merged with Kani-Sama)
3. Trunks wins. Piccolo is SSJ Tier but not stronger
Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread
Goku and vegeta are much stronger than gohan during the CG without rage boost,so cell looses.
Even piccolo recognizes trunks power when kuririn apoligized for not fighting,so trunks wins.
Even piccolo recognizes trunks power when kuririn apoligized for not fighting,so trunks wins.
Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread
Perfect Cell beats both as Goku and Vegeta as SSJ2 were in the same league as SSJ2 Kid Gohan, so as SSJ's they would be just somewhat stronger than SSJ Kid Gohan, and Full Power Perfect Cell is a lot stronger than SSJ Kid Gohan, so Cell beats them.DannyDBZfanforever wrote:I want to hear some answers to this question:
Perfect Cell Full power Vs SSJ Goku (Majin Buu Saga)
PC Full Power Vs SSJ 1 Vegeta (Buu Saga)
SSJ 1 Trunks (android Saga) Vs Piccolo (with the same power level than He had against #20/ Gero, just before the merged with Kani-Sama)
Trunks. I think Piccolo was below SSJ Still, but closer now.
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I feel like Cooler is strong enough to pull off the win.
Edit: NVM he's not in final form Vegetto would win for sure
Edit: NVM he's not in final form Vegetto would win for sure
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread
Freeza is stronger than a potential SS vegeta,and coola may be stronger than SS goku...so i give this to cooliza.
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Coolza wins if he can use Cooler's super form.
Super Cooler > SS Namek Goku > 100% Freeza > SS Namek Vegeta
Super Cooler > SS Namek Goku > 100% Freeza > SS Namek Vegeta
The Monkey King wrote:It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWokeRandomGuy96 wrote:He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread
Ozaru (Saiyan Saga) Vegeta and Nappa versus the Ginyu Force. Tail weakness counts (if you think they could exploit it or not); but I don't think a false moon could be destroyed.