"Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

[Kanassa]

There's still a lot of text that hasn't been translated. Looking at the images, the chapter seems OK. Seems like the art is weaker than usual. SSJG Vegeta looks fine after you get used to it.

I will never get used to it. I hope SSG Vegeta is a one time thing if this is his design.

[TheMathemagician]

I figured they just trained the weakness which makes sense as to why Vegeta could be using it. Regardless though, still disappointed overall with the chapter. Black continues being horrible of a character, Goku not fighting Black once is disappointing as hell. Though I do very much like seeing SSG Vegeta (the idea itself, I'm not a big fan the way Toyo draws SSG Vegeta though) as well as Goku throwing a blast to try and stop the fusion.

[SansrivaaL]

I guess Vegeta really is treating his red and blue just like how Goku used his KK back in namek.

[TheMikado]

Here's the full chapter.

Looks like I was on point for the most part excluding Black being upset with Zamasu attacking Vegeta.

Ok the chapter was awesome! Watching Kaioshin lose it was great.

[Basako]

Finally the complete version. I think we already had the most important points in the leak, however it's much better to have it in order an complete. We still need the translations, because there is a bunch of writing in there.

I like Vegeta SSG. I think this transformation has its unique advantages like the body fitness, the speed and not draining and Vegeta is using it to dodge all Black's attacks, but he is also using glimpses of SSB for the exact moments he punches his opponent. It's really good! Using glimpses of SSB doesn't necessarily have to drain as much as fully going SSB, if it did, he couldn't do that. Black may be stronger, but this is pure strategy. Really great, Toyo!

Goku on the other hand making the Mafuba and the problem with the seal, we already knew that. I find this change very funny. So Zamasu gets really worried, this was similar in the anime too. Again, Goku not fighting Black will probably be the worst thing of the manga version of this arc. This is a real pity!

Shin annoyed and attacking looks great, although he has no chance.

We have another difference from the anime, Bulma didn't go to the future with them either. Better, I want Toyotaro mostly focusing on the fight from now on. Next chapter, Vegetto, for sure! Gogeta? Nah...

[TheUltimateNinja]

Wait a minute, shouldn't Goku still lose 90% of his power since he turned Blue and dropped back down to Base? Also, Black says Vegeta didn't change, if that's the case how come he's getting jobbed?

[Pantheon]

I figured they just trained the weakness which makes sense as to why Vegeta could be using it. Regardless though, still disappointed overall with the chapter. Black continues being horrible of a character, Goku not fighting Black once is disappointing as hell. Though I do very much like seeing SSG Vegeta (the idea itself, I'm not a big fan the way Toyo draws SSG Vegeta though) as well as Goku throwing a blast to try and stop the fusion.

Nevermind Goku not fighting Black I don't think he even interacted with him once. The guys whose body he stole, the guy who he hates so much he decided to kill everyone. They haven't even really acknowledged each other presence at all.

[TheMathemagician]

I figured they just trained the weakness which makes sense as to why Vegeta could be using it. Regardless though, still disappointed overall with the chapter. Black continues being horrible of a character, Goku not fighting Black once is disappointing as hell. Though I do very much like seeing SSG Vegeta (the idea itself, I'm not a big fan the way Toyo draws SSG Vegeta though) as well as Goku throwing a blast to try and stop the fusion.

Nevermind Goku not fighting Black I don't think he even interacted with him once. The guys whose body he stole, the guy who he hates so much he decided to kill everyone. They haven't even really acknowledged each other presence at all.

I know, and that also makes it even worse for me as well. Goku and Black don't fight once, and barely acknowledge each other's existence. It then ultimately goes back to Zamasu not having as strong a reason to take Goku's body in the manga, since he only saw him through Godtube clips and that should have given him just as much incentive to take Vegeta or Hit's body. Either way, the manga dropped the ball big time for me by not having Goku and Black really even interact all that much, at least as much as I'd like.

[mfwlegend3]

I don't think he even interacted with him once.

Except they did interact, though, several times.

[TheUltimateNinja]

I don't think he even interacted with him once.

Except they did interact, though, several times.

Is that right? I only recall Goku telling Black they know his identity which hardly counts. What interactions did they have?

[TheMikado]

Wait a minute, shouldn't Goku still lose 90% of his power since he turned Blue and dropped back down to Base? Also, Black says Vegeta didn't change, if that's the case how come he's getting jobbed?

That's why Goku went Red instead, is says so right there in black and white.

[Pantheon]

I don't think he even interacted with him once.

Except they did interact, though, several times.

I'll go check again to see if your right about that but if i can't remember it then it was unmemorable and if it was unmemorable then it doesn't change my feelings in the slightest.

[TheUltimateNinja]

Wait a minute, shouldn't Goku still lose 90% of his power since he turned Blue and dropped back down to Base? Also, Black says Vegeta didn't change, if that's the case how come he's getting jobbed?

That's why Goku went Red instead, is says so right there in black and white.

But SSGod should be far too weak for Merged Zamasu.

[dbzfan7]

So there is a reason which I do like. Switching between the two to conserve stamina, and mention that really stupid weakness, no longer exists. Now the current weakness at least doesn't seem as bad.....though Goku seems to be low on stamina just from the Mafuuba alone. Odd when he used Blue and is way stronger than Zamasu...and yet it still tired him out. At least it's better than what I once thought. I also like how we see a panel of Vegeta go Blue and attack, before reverting.

[Jaetinh]

One thing I hate about Future Trunks' new design is his scarf. It just doesn't fit and it makes him look like a teenager. Wauw, Toyotaro actually made him lose the scarf for this chapter (or did it happen last chapter as well?) but he now looks way better.

[SansrivaaL]

Zamasu: Damn it.... this... this shouldnt be happening. Damn it!
Black: ..... For what reason did you even get immortality? stand up!
Zamasu: Nobody told me things would turn out like this, if we team up, we can do whatever we please in the universe, wasnt that how its supposed to be? there's no point to all of this if you arent the strongest.
Goku: Whats happening? are they having a fallout?
Vegeta: ....Its over.
Why does Vegeta have no idea what could have happened and only Goku noticed Zamasu and Black were planning to fuse? actually why is Goku even the one explaning things.... this is so weird

[mfwlegend3]

I don't think he even interacted with him once.

Except they did interact, though, several times.

Is that right? I only recall Goku telling Black they know his identity which hardly counts. What interactions did they have?

Goku also called Black out on his bullshit regarding the massacre of the Kai and GoD.

Interaction is interaction.

[TheUltimateNinja]

Zamasu: Damn it.... this... this shouldnt be happening. Damn it!
Black: ..... For what reason did you even get immortality? stand up!
Zamasu: Nobody told me things would turn out like this, if we team up, we can do whatever we please in the universe, wasnt that how its supposed to be? there's no point to all of this if you arent the strongest.
Goku: Whats happening? are they having a fallout?
Vegeta: ....Its over.
Why does Vegeta have no idea what could have happened and only Goku noticed Zamasu and Black were planning to fuse? actually why is Goku even the one explaning things.... this is so weird

Vegeta reallocated his stat points in the RoSAT, he traded all of his intelligence for power.

[TheMikado]

Wait a minute, shouldn't Goku still lose 90% of his power since he turned Blue and dropped back down to Base? Also, Black says Vegeta didn't change, if that's the case how come he's getting jobbed?

That's why Goku went Red instead, is says so right there in black and white.

But SSGod should be far too weak for Merged Zamasu.

SSG has nothing to do with merged Zamasu at this point. Literally the very last panel was merged Zamasus appearence. Are we looking at the same things?

[TheUltimateNinja]

That's why Goku went Red instead, is says so right there in black and white.

But SSGod should be far too weak for Merged Zamasu.

SSG has nothing to do with merged Zamasu at this point. Literally the very last panel was merged Zamasus appearence. Are we looking at the same things?

I'm obviously referring to the future. Goku can't use Blue again, and that means they're severely handicapped. They'll probably have to fuse immediately.