"Dragon Ball XENOVERSE 2" Official Discussion Thread

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Post by dualist » Wed May 30, 2018 4:06 pm

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sintzu wrote:I guess the files people found for 2 extra packs were true then. :clap:

Baby Vegeta should've been in the first game so hopefully he's one of them. Kefla and Toppo were the tournaments other main 2 antagonists with Jiren so chances are they'll be apart of this. We could also get #13 and Bojack's transformations. Vegeta's Blue evolution could also make it in. We'll probably get something in June's V-Jump.

Like others have said, it's great to see this game get as much support as its gotten as it's turning out to be my favorite DB game. XV3 is surely going to blow us away so I can't wait. :thumbup: Speaking of XV3, DLC is usually worked on by a small team so this shouldn't hurt its development, especially if its content already made for it that's just being ported to XV2.
I legit have a fear that because they added too many new characters that were made for xv3 to XV2 dlc, when xv3 comes out, there will be little to no new characters and everyone (me included) will get mad. I know it’s unrealistic but i hope they shouldn’t run out of ideas. But, once i know that dimps isn’t afraid to put Heroes characters in XV, i’ll Lose my fear because they will never run out if they use heroes.
I'm not even crazy about new characters in a game that let's you create your own. I'm always happy for new content, but I want new story elements, co-op events, improvement the raids, better rewards. I love the PvE aspect of the game and the opportunity to play with others. So if XV3 comes out with improved gameplay and story, the characters are secondary.
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Post by ArchedThunder » Wed May 30, 2018 4:19 pm

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Dbzfan94 wrote:I personally dont want any more DLC. Save it for XV3.
Here's the thing, all this means is more characters for XV3. Each character costs money to make and they only have so much money in the budget for a project. If all the DLC comes over just like from 1 to 2 then these characters won't affect the budget of XV3 and the money that would have been used on them for that game can be spent on other characters.
I mean I get the idea, but my point wasnt for budget. if they put everyone in XV2, who are they gonna use to promote XV3? Dr. Rota? :lol: :lol:
There's lots of characters and forms that aren't in XV2 and there will continue to be new characters coming to the Dragon Ball franchise. Tons of movie content left untouched, lots of missing forms (Freeza, Cell, Buu, even DBS and movie forms), lot's of Super and GT stuff and they haven't even touched og DB yet, we have a movie this year and probably the return of the anime next year and then there is also always what-if stuff.

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Post by Draconic » Wed May 30, 2018 5:24 pm

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Dbzfan94 wrote:
ArchedThunder wrote: Here's the thing, all this means is more characters for XV3. Each character costs money to make and they only have so much money in the budget for a project. If all the DLC comes over just like from 1 to 2 then these characters won't affect the budget of XV3 and the money that would have been used on them for that game can be spent on other characters.
I mean I get the idea, but my point wasnt for budget. if they put everyone in XV2, who are they gonna use to promote XV3? Dr. Rota? :lol: :lol:
There's lots of characters and forms that aren't in XV2 and there will continue to be new characters coming to the Dragon Ball franchise. Tons of movie content left untouched, lots of missing forms (Freeza, Cell, Buu, even DBS and movie forms), lot's of Super and GT stuff and they haven't even touched og DB yet, we have a movie this year and probably the return of the anime next year and then there is also always what-if stuff.
To add to your list, the Heroes promo anime is coming no matter what and with Super off air it's bound to get some traction. Combined with the fact it's story arc is set around Fuu, a Xenoverse original character, whatever new thing makes it in from the game to the show might have quite the chance of making a leap into the XV series too if it proves popular.
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Post by ArchedThunder » Wed May 30, 2018 5:26 pm

Draconic wrote: To add to your list, the Heroes promo anime is coming no matter what and with Super off air it's bound to get some traction. Combined with the fact it's story arc is set around Fuu, a Xenoverse original character, whatever new thing makes it in from the game to the show might have quite the chance of making a leap into the XV series too if it proves popular.
They already said they don't want to do Heroes content because they want Xenoverse to have its own identity. The Heroes anime is a small web series that is just promoting Heroes and probably won't even last very long and it's just adapting the current arc of the game. Fu came out in a ton of stuff all at once, so I don't think he's actually a Xenoverse original, but probably something from the Dragon Room.

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Post by Grimlock » Wed May 30, 2018 6:14 pm

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Draconic wrote: Combined with the fact it's story arc is set around Fuu, a Xenoverse original character.
Fu came out in a ton of stuff all at once, so I don't think he's actually a Xenoverse original, but probably something from the Dragon Room.
Either I'm understanding wrongly, but you guys do know Fu comes from Dragon Ball Online, right?

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Post by ArchedThunder » Wed May 30, 2018 6:15 pm

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ArchedThunder wrote:
Draconic wrote: Combined with the fact it's story arc is set around Fuu, a Xenoverse original character.
Fu came out in a ton of stuff all at once, so I don't think he's actually a Xenoverse original, but probably something from the Dragon Room.
Either I'm understanding wrongly, but you guys do know Fu comes from Dragon Ball Online, right?
The idea of Fu's origin does, but his design and personality as a teenager is essentially a brand new character.
Fu was nothing more than some artwork of a Baby that was never implemented in Online.

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Post by Grimlock » Wed May 30, 2018 6:35 pm

I see. As for the characters to be yet included, there are more from Dragon Ball Online to be touched upon, I'm eagerly to see Android 9, for instance. I believe he has potential to be a great addition to the new lore of nowadays as Android 21, there are other members from Time Breakers too.

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Post by ArchedThunder » Wed May 30, 2018 6:52 pm

Grimlock wrote:I see. As for the characters to be yet included, there are more from Dragon Ball Online to be touched upon, I'm eagerly to see Android 9, for instance. I believe he has potential to be a great addition to the new lore of nowadays as Android 21, there are other members from Time Breakers too.
Honestly? I kinda hope that they don't add any more Online characters, I want more totally original characters.
With Towa and Mira dead and Fu not being evil I think this is the perfect time for Xenoverse to introduce some brand new villains.

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Post by Grimlock » Wed May 30, 2018 6:59 pm

Most of Dragon Ball Online characters weren't used as the game closed to soon, just like Fu, they would act like a completely original character doing stuff that we may have never seen it. Even these days, there are still people thinking that even Mira and Towa came from Xenoverse or Heroes, they don't know about Online, so there's that too, Android 9 and others would be original/new characters for many people.

They can come up with original characters whenever they want, of course. But use the ones that already exist and was never fully touched upon. I see people wanting Tao Pao Pai (in Dragon Ball Legends thread) for example, well, he can even make a nice comeback as Tao Pai Pai X, also from Dragon Ball Online.

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Post by ArchedThunder » Wed May 30, 2018 7:06 pm

Grimlock wrote:Most of Dragon Ball Online characters weren't used as the game closed to soon, just like Fu, they would act like a completely original character doing stuff that we may have never seen it. Even these days, there are still people thinking that even Mira and Towa came from Xenoverse or Heroes, they don't know about Online, so there's that too, Android 9 and others would be original/new characters for many people.

They can come up with original characters whenever they want, of course. But use the ones that already exist and was never fully touched upon. I see people wanting Tao Pao Pai (in Dragon Ball Legends thread) for example, well, he can even make a nice comeback as Tao Pai Pai X, also from Dragon Ball Online.
Sure, but I would rather see totally new stuff.

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Post by ZeroDio » Wed May 30, 2018 8:10 pm

Well the only time based villain left is Mechikabura

Plus they could use the Dark DragonBalls as a plot device where after unknown figure (later revealed as Fu cause he wanted to see what his mom’s master was capable of doing with rifts)

Then the plot involves finding and containing the dark dragonballs through time before Mechikabura gets them.

And we could have it where the Dark Balls effect the events they land in

Possibly creating 7 what if characters due to the effects of the balls like

- Golden Cooler (during the events of Cooler’s Revenge)
- Super Android 18 (during the events of Super 17 Saga)
- Broly God (during the events of Broly Second Coming)
- SSJ Fasha (during the events of Father of Goku)

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Post by sintzu » Wed May 30, 2018 9:55 pm

ArchedThunder wrote:They already said they don't want to do Heroes content because they want Xenoverse to have its own identity.
They brought over Ssj3 Bardock so they're clearly not completely against it.
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Post by EXBadguy » Thu May 31, 2018 12:33 am

Wow, this is the first DB game that is getting support for almost 2 years now. I just hope the DLC that they're doing will be the very last one, cuz they need to work on a sequel with the Legends artstyle, and I know it'll take time. And speaking of DLC characters, Baby Vegeta is mandatory now, he has to be in! The only Super characters that are worthy to be added in are Toppo and Kefla, the rest I couldn't care less.
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Post by Phozz » Thu May 31, 2018 5:45 am

ArchedThunder wrote:DLC is generally made by small teams, this won't affect XV3 at all.
This is so comforting to know! Xenoverse's future is so bright it's ridiculous.

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Post by sintzu » Thu May 31, 2018 6:34 am

Phozz wrote:
ArchedThunder wrote:DLC is generally made by small teams, this won't affect XV3 at all.
This is so comforting to know! Xenoverse's future is so bright it's ridiculous.
Also keep in mind that these characters weren't planned as they were just going to release 4 packs so for all we know they're just giving us something that's nearly done originally for XV3 so that's even less work.
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Post by BlueBasilisk » Thu May 31, 2018 11:48 am

sintzu wrote:Also keep in mind that these characters weren't planned as they were just going to release 4 packs so for all we know they're just giving us something that's nearly done originally for XV3 so that's even less work.
Yep, they can always include the DLC in the base version of Xenoverse 3 like they did with the RoF and GT stuff between XV1 and XV2. What I want from XV3 more than anything is fresh new story content. No more replaying the same Raditz to Buu missions. Make that stuff parallel quests. :problem:

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Post by sintzu » Thu May 31, 2018 11:56 am

BlueBasilisk wrote:What I want from XV3 more than anything is fresh new story content. No more replaying the same Raditz to Buu missions. Make that stuff parallel quests. :problem:
With those missions already finished I think they'll most likely copy them into XV3 like they did with 2 then just add things to them and in between.
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Post by Zelvin » Thu May 31, 2018 6:43 pm

ArchedThunder wrote: What did they remove from XV1? All of the characters, moves and stages from the first game are in 2.
Xenoverse 2 also has a much better frame rate, engine improvements, more fighters can be on screen at a time and they polished the gameplay, so it's not something that could just be an expansion to the first game.
They noted the removal and changes of some things when XV2 launched. It's why they couldn't transfer over when transferring your One Character to act as the Hero of Time. And everything you've said could just have easily been implemented into XV1 via a patch. Just like they've been doing with XV2. There was no big overhaul to the system. There's only been relatively minor improvements. And really, having 6 players on a team isn't much of an improvement at all since it doesn't really add much to anything. And you still get that one jackass who grabs the Great ape's tail and prevents everyone else from dealing damage.

Instead of actually doing something with this system, like enabling multiple players to grab the tail at once and the more players who help swing the Oozaru around increases the amount of damage done, they instead only implemented more BS mechanics to "bosses" to make them more annoying to fight. Not harder, just annoying.
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Post by ArchedThunder » Thu May 31, 2018 11:24 pm

Zelvin wrote:
ArchedThunder wrote: What did they remove from XV1? All of the characters, moves and stages from the first game are in 2.
Xenoverse 2 also has a much better frame rate, engine improvements, more fighters can be on screen at a time and they polished the gameplay, so it's not something that could just be an expansion to the first game.
They noted the removal and changes of some things when XV2 launched. It's why they couldn't transfer over when transferring your One Character to act as the Hero of Time. And everything you've said could just have easily been implemented into XV1 via a patch. Just like they've been doing with XV2. There was no big overhaul to the system. There's only been relatively minor improvements. And really, having 6 players on a team isn't much of an improvement at all since it doesn't really add much to anything. And you still get that one jackass who grabs the Great ape's tail and prevents everyone else from dealing damage.

Instead of actually doing something with this system, like enabling multiple players to grab the tail at once and the more players who help swing the Oozaru around increases the amount of damage done, they instead only implemented more BS mechanics to "bosses" to make them more annoying to fight. Not harder, just annoying.
No, heavy engine reworking is not something that can be done easily with a patch.
And tell me what they removed.

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Post by Logania » Thu May 31, 2018 11:50 pm

If the future updates don't add Baby Vegeta, I'm gonna riot. I will pay for him, dammit, just gimme my Tuffle!
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