Super Animation Catalogue 2.0

[Avok]

I love Maeda's designs but I think the franchise peaked at the Boo arc. There are so many strong and well directed scenes in that arc.

[ArchedThunder]

I love Maeda's designs but I think the franchise peaked at the Boo arc. There are so many strong and well directed scenes in that arc.

The Buu arc is definitely the peak of the franchise, visually, even though there is still plenty of ugliness from Uchiyama and Ebisawa.

[Amir]

The Buu arc had awesome art because of the designs but the animation wasn't that good, other than that cut by Yamamuro, SSJ2 Goku vs Kid Buu and that's it from what I can remember.

[Dai-Saiyajin]

I love Maeda's designs but I think the franchise peaked at the Boo arc. There are so many strong and well directed scenes in that arc.

The Buu arc is definitely the peak of the franchise, visually, even though there is still plenty of ugliness from Uchiyama and Ebisawa.

The Ebisawa episodes improved a lot and looked very good in the buu saga, the Uchiyama ones were serviceable and there are less episodes by him during this arc than the others. All episodes by Shingo Ishikawa, Keisuke Masunaga, Yuuji Hakamada, Hisada and Yamamuro looked incredible good from an art standpoint and a lot of them also were very good in terms of animation too. Also, Nakatsuru was simply the best CD that DB ever had.

[MainJPW]

What? It looks great, I really don't get it.
All the saiyans faces look roughly the same without the hair. Especially with a smirk like this.

Base Goku's and (formerly) Gohan's eyes don't resemble Vegeta's.
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Gohan looks 100% Gohan.

His face and out of nowhere widow's peak 100% makes him look like Vegeta.

[Asura]

I actually think Universe Survival arc is the best looking arc of the franchise.

- We finally crossed the barrier where the art/animation are consistent enough and we don't a single bad looking episode.
- The post-production work is just incredible and that's the main reason why I think this. The filter was a good addition and the art direction just makes this arc stand out from everything we ever had in such a good way.

For the first time I will bother to gather my favourite shots and create a gallery which I will post here when the arc ends.

By franchise you mean just for Super, right...?

Because I'd be shocked if someone said there's another arc in Super that looks better than this one, I should assume it's obvious how much better it consistently looks than any other arc, although you never know with some people. But if you're talking about the entire franchise, like DB, DBZ, GT, and DBS? Noooo way. I agree with the others who said the Buu arc is absolute pinnacle of the franchise.

[emperior]

I remember the 23rd Budokai Tenkaichi was consistent and had some great animation, and the designs were incredibly good too!
Saiyan arc was also very good, though both 23rd BT and Saiyan arc are short arcs compared to Namek, Androids, Buu and the currently airing Universal Survival arc.
Buu arc was great but I clearly remember some episodes where the characters muscles looked weird. But apart from those episodes the arc was very consistent in terms of animation, and it looked very good most of the times.

[Simere]

I just gave watching DBS on Daisuki a go and noticed the colors were quite different from CR's. Why is that? Which is how it's supposed to look?

[BakaManiaHD]

Does anyone know who animated this? It looked really good
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[ogkftg]

An update on the new Saint Seiya show, Super won't have to worry about losing staff to it since it's CG, not a 2D anime. Interestingly the writing staff is entirely western, direction and design is still all Japanese people though.
Also contrary to early speculation, it's not directed by Morio Hatano, but instead Yoshiharu Ashino.

It was actually announced a couple months ago that there are going to be 3 Saint Seiya projects, The CGI Netflix series, A live-action project(probably a film), and the spin-off anime Saintia Sho which will be 2D animated. Morio Hatano was suspected to be working on one of the projects and with the confirmation that Yoshiharu Ashino is directing the CG series that more than likely means he'll be working on the spin-off anime but we have yet to get any confirmations to say for sure.

[Sodhi]

Does anyone know who animated this? It looked really good
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This is presumed to be done by Kuroyanagi Kenji.

[Nasryyy]

Does anyone know who animated this? It looked really good
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what's with the coloring, from where i watched it doesn't look like this, can you tell me where did you get it from or if you added some filter cause i really like it

[FortuneSSJ]

I actually think Universe Survival arc is the best looking arc of the franchise.

You mean for DBS right?

By franchise you mean just for Super, right...?

If I said franchise, I obviously mean from every DB anime we got - DB, DBZ/Kai, GT and Super.

I agree with the others who said the Buu arc is absolute pinnacle of the franchise.

It looks good but it's outdated. DB/DBZ/GT are old shows and when it comes to visual quality/graphics they can only compare to other shows of that time.
As for Kai, it's DBZ with make up. Just like with an old person, it makes it look a little younger but still can't hide its age.

The art and animation of the old shows can still be better than the new ones, in fact that's what happened with Super's first arcs, but the graphics will always be inferior. It's just like comparing a PS2 game to a PS4 game.

[Asura]

I actually think Universe Survival arc is the best looking arc of the franchise.

You mean for DBS right?

By franchise you mean just for Super, right...?

If I said franchise, I obviously mean from every DB anime we got - DB, DBZ/Kai, GT and Super.

I agree with the others who said the Buu arc is absolute pinnacle of the franchise.

It looks good but it's outdated. DB/DBZ/GT are old shows and when it comes to visual quality/graphics they can only compare to other shows of that time.
As for Kai, it's DBZ with make up. Just like with an old person, it makes it look a little younger but still can't hide its age.

The art and animation of the old shows can still be better than the new ones, in fact that's what happened with Super's first arcs, but the graphics will always be inferior. It's just like comparing a PS2 game to a PS4 game.

I'm confused as to what you consider "graphics" and how it differs from "art and animation".

[FortuneSSJ]

I'm confused as to what you consider "graphics" and how it differs from "art and animation".

Art is the drawings. Animation is the movement.
By graphics I mean the overall visual quality, the footage quality...

Everyone is able to tell if an anime/game is old or new by looking to it's graphics and see how it was done.
You can also use Disney Movies as example, by comparing the new ones to the old ones. I don't know how to explain it better to you.

The most radical example I can give you is for you to compare an old black and white Movie with a Movie in color. "Outdated" is the keyword here.

[Baggie_Saiyan]

While the Buu arc does look nice and consistent art wise I'd say DBS has better flat out animation moments, like for the Buu arc people constantly bring up the Majin Vegeta Goku fight. Nothing else in the Buu arc comes close to that and that fight happened so early into the arc.

I just gave watching DBS on Daisuki a go and noticed the colors were quite different from CR's. Why is that? Which is how it's supposed to look?

Yeah the Daisuki stream is better. Ajay clarified a while ago why it's he said it's because it has a higher bitrate.

[PMD]

Does anyone know who animated this? It looked really good
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I don't know who animated it, but I always loved that scene. It has some really cool shots of SSJ3 Goku, and the loosy animation at the end, when Goku beats Trunks it's pretty cool too. But the clip you posted has some editing and different colours.

Here's the entire fight:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gdXZ5rBvdLQ

[Asura]

I'm confused as to what you consider "graphics" and how it differs from "art and animation".

Art is the drawings. Animation is the movement.
By graphics I mean the overall visual quality, the footage quality...

Everyone is able to tell if an anime/game is old or new by looking to it's graphics and see how it was done.
You can also use Disney Movies as example, by comparing the new ones to the old ones. I don't know how to explain it better to you.

The most radical example I can give you is for you to compare an old black and white Movie with a Movie in color. "Outdated" is the keyword here.

I wouldn't say anime and video games are a fair comparison. A newer video game will almost always look better than an older one, but that's not always true for anime. With the advent of the digital age, it's really become two different styles more than just simply old and new. Skyrim will undoubtedly 100% look better than Super Mario 64, but when it comes to anime it's really more up to personal preference, which is whether you prefer hand-drawn or digital. Newer animes will mostly be digital, older animes will be hand-drawn. In my opinion the Buu saga looks a lot better "graphically" than Super does because I prefer hand drawings to digital. In terms of footage quality I don't really know how to factor that in to video game graphic terms, but I don't see it as that big of a deal (at least when comparing the latest Z blu-ray releases and Super). Maybe we could say it's the difference between 8x anti-aliasing and 16x or something .

[ArchedThunder]

These Yamamuro designs for the Gohan two parter are pretty nice.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DGV7FTFUAAEEc3p.jpg:orig
I think it's interesting that Yamamuro's edit of the old Saiyaman design for the battle damage has simpler shading and the muscle detailing on Barry's various forms is fairly simple.
I wonder when he did these and when he started the designs for the current arc. I really hope he's able to redo some of the main cast's designs for the next arc, even if it's ultimately just Goku and Vegeta he gets to redo.
Hell, I wouldn't mind if he took the current Gohan full body shots, drew Goku's head over Gohan's, added the Go symbol and then did new headshots for the design. Though ultimately I would rather a new Goku design have a slightly wider torso and thicker arms than this Gohan, but these proportions wouldn't bother me.

Also I'm surprised that it seems like Yamamuro did a lot of the new designs in the 10 weeks of filler, I would have thought that animation supervisors would have been responsible for more of them, like how Yamamuro seemingly didn't do the baseball episode designs.

[riversxv]

These Yamamuro designs for the Gohan two parter are pretty nice.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DGV7FTFUAAEEc3p.jpg:orig
I think it's interesting that Yamamuro's edit of the old Saiyaman design for the battle damage has simpler shading and the muscle detailing on Barry's various forms is fairly simple.
I wonder when he did these and when he started the designs for the current arc. I really hope he's able to redo some of the main cast's designs for the next arc, even if it's ultimately just Goku and Vegeta he gets to redo.
Hell, I wouldn't mind if he took the current Gohan full body shots, drew Goku's head over Gohan's, added the Go symbol and then did new headshots for the design. Though ultimately I would rather a new Goku design have a slightly wider torso and thicker arms than this Gohan, but these proportions wouldn't bother me.

Also I'm surprised that it seems like Yamamuro did a lot of the new designs in the 10 weeks of filler, I would have thought that animation supervisors would have been responsible for more of them, like how Yamamuro seemingly didn't do the baseball episode designs.

One of his illustrations that I really liked was the one with Future Trunks holding baby Pan. His nose and eyes looked good and his ear even had the full earlobe drawn in