Official On-Going Dragon Ball Super Movie #1 Thread: "Broly"

[Helios518]

Super's animation has been very inconsistent, though many episodes in the TOP have looked very good, especially episode 130.

Those are exceptions that require you to cherrypick them as standout frames.

True, Super's animation overall isn't that great, but I don't think its horrible like some people say (I've seen a lot of people on Facebook say the animation is awful).

Of course, people tend to exaggerate, but I could imagine when one of the most popular anime/manga of all time doesn't look as good as it can be because of poor decisions, then there's going to be a problem.

[Champa The Destroyer]

Those are exceptions that require you to cherrypick them as standout frames.

True, Super's animation overall isn't that great, but I don't think its horrible like some people say (I've seen a lot of people on Facebook say the animation is awful).

Of course, people tend to exaggerate, but I could imagine when one of the most popular anime/manga of all time doesn't look as good as it can be because of poor decisions, then there's going to be a problem.

True, especially with how poor the animation was in the BOG and ROF arcs.

[ZeroNeonix]

I see him combining it with regular ssj. Gold hair, silver eyes and the ultra instinct aura inside the ssj aura.

That'd be cool, but with the current lore (and I know the show has never been consistent with lore), god energy is calmer than mortal energy. And Super Saiyan energy is very wild. That's why Goku was able to combine Kaioken with Blue but not standard Super Saiyan. Going by the same logic, it might be easier to combine Ultra Instinct with Super Saiyan Blue.

[Hellspawn28]

I wonder if Goku will beat the main villain in one shot with UI?

[Champa The Destroyer]

I wonder how big of a role Beerus and Whis will play in the movie.

[SingleFringe&Sparks]

I wonder if Goku will beat the main villain in one shot with UI?

I don't want him to use it. I want this movie to feel more classic DBZ, and have it only use SS forms to demonstrate their own innate power. SSB at most.

[Baggie_Saiyan]

Y'know I been thinking I want to go into this movie pretty blind to be honest if the plan of a near global release happens. Avengers is out next month and I haven't seen a single drop of footage, last year I did that for most films I watched.

I feel like the teaser is enough quench me to be honest. We have Toriyama's comments, we know Toei are doing their best to make this visually fantastic, we know there is new art style we know various big names already confirmed, we have glimpses of a villain. I mean what more do we need to tick us over until December?

[Hellspawn28]

I doubt the main villain will be stronger than Jiren and I'm okay with that. Not everyone in the series needs to use ABC logic, I like how Super did move away from that for the most part.

[Champa The Destroyer]

Will Vegeta even be that relevant at all considering he is MUCH weaker than Goku at this point?

[ZeroNeonix]

Will Vegeta even be that relevant at all considering he is MUCH weaker than Goku at this point?

Is he? I dunno about that. He had that extra time in the Hyperbolic Time chamber and came out strong enough to beat back Rosé Black. Seemed like he was technically stronger than Goku at that point. Goku just had the advantage of having Kaioken. Then Vegeta got that Evolution form, which seemed to be fighting on equal ground with Super Saiyan Blue Kaioken Goku. Goku still has Ultra Instinct, but that seems like a last resort kinda technique right now. I think Vegeta is more than strong enough to keep up.

[SingleFringe&Sparks]

Will Vegeta even be that relevant at all considering he is MUCH weaker than Goku at this point?

Is he? I dunno about that. He had that extra time in the Hyperbolic Time chamber and came out strong enough to beat back Rosé Black. Seemed like he was technically stronger than Goku at that point. Goku just had the advantage of having Kaioken. Then Vegeta got that Evolution form, which seemed to be fighting on equal ground with Super Saiyan Blue Kaioken Goku. Goku still has Ultra Instinct, but that seems like a last resort kinda technique right now. I think Vegeta is more than strong enough to keep up.

Its why I prefer them being closer together in the manga or around the same growth pace. I had hoped with Super that the gap would finally be closed so that they can work together now, but nope. They decided to retread the same issue by forcing Goku upward anyway. If this is a movie about Saiyan roots, there is no reason Goku needs to be the center of it now.

[kn83]

Will Vegeta even be that relevant at all considering he is MUCH weaker than Goku at this point?

Is he? I dunno about that. He had that extra time in the Hyperbolic Time chamber and came out strong enough to beat back Rosé Black. Seemed like he was technically stronger than Goku at that point. Goku just had the advantage of having Kaioken. Then Vegeta got that Evolution form, which seemed to be fighting on equal ground with Super Saiyan Blue Kaioken Goku. Goku still has Ultra Instinct, but that seems like a last resort kinda technique right now. I think Vegeta is more than strong enough to keep up.

Its why I prefer them being closer together in the manga or around the same growth pace. I had hoped with Super that the gap would finally be closed so that they can work together now, but nope. They decided to retread the same issue by forcing Goku upward anyway. If this is a movie about Saiyan roots, there is no reason Goku needs to be the center of it now.

They could just give Vegeta UI, problem solved.

[SingleFringe&Sparks]

Is he? I dunno about that. He had that extra time in the Hyperbolic Time chamber and came out strong enough to beat back Rosé Black. Seemed like he was technically stronger than Goku at that point. Goku just had the advantage of having Kaioken. Then Vegeta got that Evolution form, which seemed to be fighting on equal ground with Super Saiyan Blue Kaioken Goku. Goku still has Ultra Instinct, but that seems like a last resort kinda technique right now. I think Vegeta is more than strong enough to keep up.

Its why I prefer them being closer together in the manga or around the same growth pace. I had hoped with Super that the gap would finally be closed so that they can work together now, but nope. They decided to retread the same issue by forcing Goku upward anyway. If this is a movie about Saiyan roots, there is no reason Goku needs to be the center of it now.

They could just give Vegeta UI, problem solved.

It shouldn't be that simple. Z never did that. Though I'm someone that actually misses training for new forms and dislike the "forms on demand" that Super does.

[jeffbr92]

I wonder if Goku will beat the main villain in one shot with UI?

No as the villain might be many times stronger than Jiren so Goku might need unlock a new form in order to defeat him.

[Champa The Destroyer]

Will Vegeta even be that relevant at all considering he is MUCH weaker than Goku at this point?

Is he? I dunno about that. He had that extra time in the Hyperbolic Time chamber and came out strong enough to beat back Rosé Black. Seemed like he was technically stronger than Goku at that point. Goku just had the advantage of having Kaioken. Then Vegeta got that Evolution form, which seemed to be fighting on equal ground with Super Saiyan Blue Kaioken Goku. Goku still has Ultra Instinct, but that seems like a last resort kinda technique right now. I think Vegeta is more than strong enough to keep up.

I think that if they're in the same forms, Vegeta is just as strong or maybe even a little stronger (because of extra ROSAT time), but if the main villain is even close to Jiren level, Vegeta shouldn't be able to keep up with him unless he gets a new form.

[kn83]

Its why I prefer them being closer together in the manga or around the same growth pace. I had hoped with Super that the gap would finally be closed so that they can work together now, but nope. They decided to retread the same issue by forcing Goku upward anyway. If this is a movie about Saiyan roots, there is no reason Goku needs to be the center of it now.

They could just give Vegeta UI, problem solved.

It shouldn't be that simple. Z never did that. Though I'm someone that actually misses training for new forms and dislike the "forms on demand" that Super does.

Goku, Trunks and Goten didn't train for SSJ1, Gohan didn't train for SSJ2 and Gotenks didn't train for SSJ3. How was Z any different?

[ZeroNeonix]

They could just give Vegeta UI, problem solved.

It shouldn't be that simple. Z never did that. Though I'm someone that actually misses training for new forms and dislike the "forms on demand" that Super does.

Goku, Trunks and Goten didn't train for SSJ1, Gohan didn't train for SSJ2 and Gotenks didn't train for SSJ3. How was Z any different?

Goku and Trunks transformed after experiencing loss. Gohan trained for a whole year to prepare for SS2 (he just perfected the form during the Cell Games). Gotenks trained in the Hyperbolic Time Chamber until Super Buu arrived, and they learned it off screen. But yes, characters have been known to transform without effort just for the sake of getting them caught up. Vegeta learning Super Saiyan was the show's first example. Then Goten and Trunks (Present timeline) learn it without even trying. The Buu Saga was the year of the Super Saiyan Bargain Bin Sale.

[majinwarman]

I wonder if Goku will beat the main villain in one shot with UI?

No as the villain might be many times stronger than Jiren so Goku might need unlock a new form in order to defeat him.

I don't want another form for Goku. I hope that doesn't happen at all.

[Champa The Destroyer]

I wonder if Goku will beat the main villain in one shot with UI?

No as the villain might be many times stronger than Jiren so Goku might need unlock a new form in order to defeat him.

That is a possibility, though the villain could also be a lot weaker then Jiren, as of right now, we have no idea how strong the villain will be.

[jeffbr92]

I don't want another form for Goku. I hope that doesn't happen at all.

Me too, but remember we had that in the last two movies (SSJ God and Blue)

That is a possibility, though the villain could also be a lot weaker then Jiren, as of right now, we have no idea how strong the villain will be.

Yes and if the villain is a Saiyan who came out of nowhere and is way stronger than Jiren, this will be way more BS than Freeza power jump on RoF.