"Dragon Ball XENOVERSE 2" Official Discussion Thread

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Re: "Dragon Ball XENOVERSE 2" Official Discussion Thread

Post by Dbzfan94 » Sun Jun 10, 2018 11:33 am

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Nia wrote:Still hoping they just throw in some classic DB villains. Come on, give OG Dragon Ball some love!
We should've gotten Kid Goku and King Piccolo by now at the very least.
Bbut we already have GT Goku and Piccolo
We have Kid Trunks, Z Future Trunks, GT Trunks and Super Trunks already. Why is it wrong to have those two?

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Post by Nia » Sun Jun 10, 2018 12:28 pm

TobyS wrote:Is fashionable suite the same thing as trendy suit?
I'd assume so, yeah. It's a bit tough to tell, due to the whole "Google Translate" thing, but it seems like the only fit for that.

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Post by Kanassa » Sun Jun 10, 2018 12:36 pm

Dbzfan94 wrote:
Kanassa wrote:
sintzu wrote:
We should've gotten Kid Goku and King Piccolo by now at the very least.
Bbut we already have GT Goku and Piccolo
We have Kid Trunks, Z Future Trunks, GT Trunks and Super Trunks already. Why is it wrong to have those two?
I didn't say it was wrong, I was saying it was confusing because we basically already have them. And why the hell are you mentioning Kid Trunks?
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Post by Dbzfan94 » Sun Jun 10, 2018 5:20 pm

Kanassa wrote:
Dbzfan94 wrote:
Kanassa wrote: Bbut we already have GT Goku and Piccolo
We have Kid Trunks, Z Future Trunks, GT Trunks and Super Trunks already. Why is it wrong to have those two?
I didn't say it was wrong, I was saying it was confusing because we basically already have them. And why the hell are you mentioning Kid Trunks?
Why wouldn’t I? He’s the same character just like Kid Goku and GT Goku. It’s still Goku.

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Post by Kanassa » Sun Jun 10, 2018 10:05 pm

Dbzfan94 wrote:
Kanassa wrote:
Dbzfan94 wrote:
We have Kid Trunks, Z Future Trunks, GT Trunks and Super Trunks already. Why is it wrong to have those two?
I didn't say it was wrong, I was saying it was confusing because we basically already have them. And why the hell are you mentioning Kid Trunks?
Why wouldn’t I? He’s the same character just like Kid Goku and GT Goku. It’s still Goku.
Kid Trunks is not the same as Future Trunks.
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FoolsGil wrote:I hope Mark is dead. But chances are the dragonballs will bring his stupid ass back. :D
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Post by Dbzfan94 » Mon Jun 11, 2018 1:50 am

Kanassa wrote:
Dbzfan94 wrote:
Kanassa wrote: I didn't say it was wrong, I was saying it was confusing because we basically already have them. And why the hell are you mentioning Kid Trunks?
Why wouldn’t I? He’s the same character just like Kid Goku and GT Goku. It’s still Goku.
Kid Trunks is not the same as Future Trunks.
He’s the same as GT Trunks. Point is they have a lot of him (also a lot of Goku/Vegeta) So having a proper King Piccolo and Kid Goku is fine too.

That’s a big problem with the preset system as a whole but that’s another story.

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Post by Zelvin » Mon Jun 11, 2018 10:30 am

AnimeNation101 wrote: Lets be honest. Most dont just want copies or combinations of the potential unleashed or kaioken transformation. The buff form is something any human can obtain since Matser Roshi is a human. They might as well just use that instead of using transformation concepts that are already for all races. Feels like a cop out.
Touching back on this and as already said, pretty much everyone can do the buff form, so it's not something "humans" can do. In act, Roshi was pretty much the only one who could. And that pretty much does have to do with it being closer to how he was in his youth. Krillin, Yamcha, Tenshinhan, Chouzu and other Earthling's have never buffed up like that. It was just Roshi's thing. And then we have Trunks, Freeza, Frost, Goku, Cell, Broly, Bojack, etc etc, who all transform and buff up. So just giving Earthling's a "buff" transformation not only doesn't really fit them as a race, it'd be rather pointless overall.

My concept for Ultimate Kaioken feels more like something Earthling's would do because they lack the biological ability to transform like other races do. Thus needing to focus on evolving their skill and technique in order to overcome this gap in their respective strengths. Kaioken can be taught to anyone, but it was put on the backburner because it became pointless to those who could transform naturally or had ways of upgrading their power, like Namekians. So Earthling's evolving the Kaioken technique is something they would learn to do in order to keep pace with every other race.

When I think of how their transformations would work, I try to make it work in a narrative. Saiyans have transformations so Kaioken and Potential Unleashed aren't really necessary. And the purpose for PU with Gohan was just to allow him to bring out all the power he'd have when transformed without actually needing to do so and take the energy he would've spent on transforming and maintaining that state and adding it to his base power, making him stronger. But since Earthling's don't have transformations, all PU does is bring out their full innate ability. As such, it's never going to be on par with the likes of a Saiyan who can transform and multiply their stats. Thus making Kaioken all that much more of a necessity to Earthlings.
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Post by AnimeNation101 » Mon Jun 11, 2018 12:24 pm

Zelvin wrote:
AnimeNation101 wrote: Lets be honest. Most dont just want copies or combinations of the potential unleashed or kaioken transformation. The buff form is something any human can obtain since Matser Roshi is a human. They might as well just use that instead of using transformation concepts that are already for all races. Feels like a cop out.
Touching back on this and as already said, pretty much everyone can do the buff form, so it's not something "humans" can do. In act, Roshi was pretty much the only one who could. And that pretty much does have to do with it being closer to how he was in his youth. Krillin, Yamcha, Tenshinhan, Chouzu and other Earthling's have never buffed up like that. It was just Roshi's thing. And then we have Trunks, Freeza, Frost, Goku, Cell, Broly, Bojack, etc etc, who all transform and buff up. So just giving Earthling's a "buff" transformation not only doesn't really fit them as a race, it'd be rather pointless overall.

My concept for Ultimate Kaioken feels more like something Earthling's would do because they lack the biological ability to transform like other races do. Thus needing to focus on evolving their skill and technique in order to overcome this gap in their respective strengths. Kaioken can be taught to anyone, but it was put on the backburner because it became pointless to those who could transform naturally or had ways of upgrading their power, like Namekians. So Earthling's evolving the Kaioken technique is something they would learn to do in order to keep pace with every other race.

When I think of how their transformations would work, I try to make it work in a narrative. Saiyans have transformations so Kaioken and Potential Unleashed aren't really necessary. And the purpose for PU with Gohan was just to allow him to bring out all the power he'd have when transformed without actually needing to do so and take the energy he would've spent on transforming and maintaining that state and adding it to his base power, making him stronger. But since Earthling's don't have transformations, all PU does is bring out their full innate ability. As such, it's never going to be on par with the likes of a Saiyan who can transform and multiply their stats. Thus making Kaioken all that much more of a necessity to Earthlings.
The same case could be made with Namekians. Not all should be able to go giant but they all have the ability. It shows that Dimps doesn’t care.
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Post by Zelvin » Mon Jun 11, 2018 12:40 pm

AnimeNation101 wrote: The same case could be made with Namekians. Not all should be able to go giant but they all have the ability. It shows that Dimps doesn’t care.
And that's part of their biology as another manifestation of their stretching ability. Heck the only times Piccolo used it was in the 23rd Budokai and in the anime filler with the Garlic Jr. Saga. So it's not like it really had much purpose. But it was tossed in there because it's what was used in Dragon Ball Online.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xeKcOzYegWs
Frankly it seemed to work better in DBO than in XV2. And yet, the Budokai trailer for DBO still had a better transformation for Namekians with the red-eyes as if indicating Super Namekian.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p84nBxAwQOs
In all honesty, the Super Namekian or Namekian Fusion state would've been far more preferable to Giant Namekian as it's something any Namekian could achieve. Which became more so apparent in Dragon Ball Super.
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Post by Kanassa » Mon Jun 11, 2018 12:57 pm

AnimeNation101 wrote:It shows that Dimps doesn’t care.
Throwing around that word so flimsily is just a meme at this point, isn't it?
When Super apparently shoves Goku down our throats:

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Post by Kanassa » Fri Jun 15, 2018 1:18 pm

Think we're gonna get anything on the new DLC soon? Or do you think it'll be saved for next month's news?
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Kanassa wrote:
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Post by ZeroDio » Fri Jun 15, 2018 1:21 pm

Kanassa wrote:Think we're gonna get anything on the new DLC soon? Or do you think it'll be saved for next month's news?
Yea i feel July V-Jump or August V-Jump is when we will get news

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Post by ZeroNeonix » Fri Jun 15, 2018 1:25 pm

Kanassa wrote:Think we're gonna get anything on the new DLC soon? Or do you think it'll be saved for next month's news?
Well, it's been about four months since Extra Pack 2 released, right? I guess it depends on how quickly Dimps decided to make more content. If it was right away, we should be due for some news very soon.

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Post by ZeroDio » Fri Jun 15, 2018 7:11 pm

So it looks like the 17 Raid isn’t happen

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Post by sintzu » Fri Jun 15, 2018 7:31 pm

Kanassa wrote:Think we're gonna get anything on the new DLC soon? Or do you think it'll be saved for next month's news?
They've already announced it so there's no reason to keep us waiting, especially with Bandai most likely wanting to get XV2 out of the way to completely focus on FighterZ. We should find out within the next day or two through leaks.
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Post by Kanassa » Fri Jun 15, 2018 8:47 pm

sintzu wrote:
Kanassa wrote:Think we're gonna get anything on the new DLC soon? Or do you think it'll be saved for next month's news?
They've already announced it so there's no reason to keep us waiting, especially with Bandai most likely wanting to get XV2 out of the way to completely focus on FighterZ. We should find out within the next day or two through leaks.
'Get XV2 out of the way'? What are you on about?
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Post by sintzu » Fri Jun 15, 2018 11:29 pm

Kanassa wrote:'Get XV2 out of the way'? What are you on about?
I mean finish up XV2's content to give FighterZ their full attention which I don't mean in a bad way if that's what it sounds like.
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Post by Kanassa » Fri Jun 15, 2018 11:51 pm

sintzu wrote:
Kanassa wrote:'Get XV2 out of the way'? What are you on about?
I mean finish up XV2's content to give FighterZ their full attention which I don't mean in a bad way if that's what it sounds like.
Again, what does that mean? Do you think that for some reason that something is being taken away from FighterZ while Xenoverse 2 is still getting content?
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Post by Dbzfan94 » Sat Jun 16, 2018 12:05 am

Kanassa wrote:
AnimeNation101 wrote:It shows that Dimps doesn’t care.
Throwing around that word so flimsily is just a meme at this point, isn't it?
Is there a reason you have to jump on people every time someone expresses an opinion here? It really feels like you're being contrarian just to be a dick.

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Post by Kanassa » Sat Jun 16, 2018 1:08 am

Dbzfan94 wrote:
Kanassa wrote:
AnimeNation101 wrote:It shows that Dimps doesn’t care.
Throwing around that word so flimsily is just a meme at this point, isn't it?
Is there a reason you have to jump on people every time someone expresses an opinion here? It really feels like you're being contrarian just to be a dick.
And this is me 'jumping on people every time they express an opinion' how? I'm merely seeing something I heavily disagree about a phrase that is so easily thrown about that its annoying.
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