"Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

[Cabba]

Can someone provide me with a link via PM or something

Got you fam.

Thanks!

[Kanassa]

I wasn't talking about who characters are getting the spotlight there.

I know, I just think that chosing Vegeta as the main character over Goku and Trunks is a lot more bold of a move than creating new attacks.

Having Vegeta as the main character is in no way a bold move.

Hell, he was practically the main character of the Cel arc up until the-... HOLY SHIT, THIS IS THE CELL ARC ALL OVER AGAIN!

[MyNiggaGoku]

Can someone provide me with a link via PM or something

Got you fam.

Can I have it too,pretty please?

[sintzu]

Having Vegeta as the main character is in no way a bold move.

Hell, he was practically the main character of the Cel arc up until the...

It is because he was never the main character. Goku is the face of the franchise and Trunks is the face of the video games so to pick him over them when the anime didn't is a bold move IMO.

Which means he wasn't, he was just for part of it. here however, he's been the main character for the whole thing (as of now). The 2 main battles with the main villain were fought by him while Goku and Trunks did little to nothing during them.

[Kanassa]

It is because he was never the main character. Goku is the face of the franchise and Trunks is the face of the video games so to pick him over them when the anime didn't is a bold move IMO.

He's a fan favoraite character who takes up a lot of screen time anyway. There's nothing bold about it.

Which means he wasn't, he was just for part of it. here however, he's been the main character for the whole thing (as of now). The 2 main battles with the main villain were fought by him while Goku and Trunks did little to nothing during them.

So... Just like the Cell arc.

And resorting Goku and Trunks to do little to nothing makes this less of a bold move, and more of an easy move.

[sintzu]

He's a fan favoraite character who takes up a lot of screen time anyway. There's nothing bold about it.

So... Just like the Cell arc.

And resorting Goku and Trunks to do little to nothing makes this less of a bold move, and more of an easy move.

Taking up screen time isn't the same as being the lead of an arc.

In the Cell arc Gohan got the main villain. Yes Vegeta had a main role in that arc but it wasn't "THE" main role.

How is chosing the lesser popular character as the lead an easy move ?

[Kanassa]

Taking up screen time isn't the same as being the lead of an arc.

In the Cell arc Gohan got the main villain. Yes Vegeta had a main rle in that arc but it wasn't "THE" main role.

By your logic he doesn't have the main role here either then.

How is choosing the lesser popular character as the lead an easy move ?

Vegeta isn't far behind on popularity, as well as focusing on one character is much easier to write than if you incorporate the other two as well (Especially when those two have better connections to the person he's fighting). Plus, Vegeta is used to getting all this spotlight. A bold move would be pushing some of the non-saiyans into a major role like that.

[sintzu]

By your logic he doesn't have the main role here either then.

Vegeta isn't far behind on popularity.

Focusing on one character is much easier to write than if you incorporate the other two as well.

Vegeta is used to getting all this spotlight.

He's the only one who's fought the main villain of the arc so how isn't he the main character ? he also got a "new" form and told goku to stay on the sidelines twice.

No but Goku is the face of the franchise while Trunks is the face of the games which puts them above him.

The easy way would be to just focus on Goku or even Trunks, not Vegeta.

When was the last time Vegeta got the main villain all to himself while Goku just sat on the side the whole time and didn't fight him once ?

[Kanassa]

By your logic he doesn't have the main role here either then.

Vegeta isn't far behind on popularity.

Focusing on one character is much easier to write than if you incorporate the other two as well.

Vegeta is used to getting all this spotlight.

He's the only one who's fought the main villain of the arc so how isn't he the main character ? he also got a "new" form and told goku to stay on the sidelines twice.

Trunks has fought Black as well. And in the Cell arc Vegeta fought all but one of the villains, and technically Gohan couldn't of beaten Cell without him. With Goku being sidelined or giving up in the two fights he had in that arc.

No but Goku is the face of the franchise while Trunks is the face of the games which puts them above him.

How is Trunks the face of the video games? If anything, the games seem to crap on Trunks. In the one game that was supposed to be about his timeline, he quickly faded from the story entirely. And in the few games he actually gets an notable role, he's just there to get his ass kicked. The Movie villains are more the face of the games than Trunks.

And again, even if this was true them being 'above' Vegeta doesn't make him getting his role in this arc bold. Bold would be moving away from Vegeta and Goku.

The easy way would be to just focus on Goku or even Trunks, not Vegeta.

Not really, because Goku and Trunks have more to contribute from a narrative standpoint, there's more to do with them here (Which is kind for a first for Goku in a while), out of the possibilities Vegeta is one of the easiest options.

[Noah]

I wonder if the manga just differs from the anime because Toyotaro wants to, not because of Toriyama or any other reason

[sintzu]

I wonder if the manga just differs from the anime because Toyotaro wants to, not because of Toriyama or any other reason

Would he be allowed to make it that different though ? when you look at the u6 arc, it's more or less the same across both the anime and manga but the Balck are is completely different.

[mfwlegend3]

I wonder if the manga just differs from the anime because Toyotaro wants to, not because of Toriyama or any other reason

I believe Toyotaro mentioned in an interview that he doesn't want to deviate that much from Toriyama's outline.

[TheSaiyanGod]

I hope this arc finally ends in the next chapter, I had enough of this lousy content we're getting in the manga.

Agreed, I'm not liking the changes,like the time travel explanation from Last Month and this month with Super saiyan God,I'm really hoping this ends at may or in April, because honestly Toyble already screwed up this​ saga, which is such a shame, because I had high hopes for this from the last two months chapter but this month is a down grade of story and art.The ending and the merged zamasu figth better not disappoint us

the manga needs to improve with the next saga, and get rid off the annoying traits of this product, like less exposition,more tension and character development, and stop doing homage and be a little bit more creative with the figths.I'm hoping they include the Zen matches with the dangerous trio because Is highly possible that these matches might be skipped in this continuity which I hope that is not the case

Did you want Black in the manga to gain the same crazy power boost from the anime? Pink smoke clones coming out of pink time slots? This Black has several inconsistencies and a lot of fanservice

Trunks SSJ2 of the manga does not hit nor throw away Black SSJ Rosé as in the anime, nor gains an transformation without explanation and nonsense.

It has already been said that Toriyama reviews Toyotaro's Storyboards and makes changes when needed

[DBZGTKOSDH]

So, Super Saiyan God is now Vegeta's stronger (visible) form.

Since he fixed the "you can't transform repeatedly" weakness of Super Saiyan Blue, I think Goku & Vegeta will fully master Super Saiyan Blue and fix the "you can't maintain the form for long periods" problem as well, and make it the powerful form with no significant drawbacks that we see in FnF & Super anime. I predict this will happen during the months between the Future Trunks & Universe Survival arcs, so the fully mastered Super Saiyan Blue will be ready for the Tournament of Power.

[Cabba]

Is this the last DB AF episode? But SS5 did not make a appearance here yet, i thought toyotaro made SS5
[spoiler][/spoiler]

[The gr]

I hope this arc finally ends in the next chapter, I had enough of this lousy content we're getting in the manga.

Agreed, I'm not liking the changes,like the time travel explanation from Last Month and this month with Super saiyan God,I'm really hoping this ends at may or in April, because honestly Toyble already screwed up this​ saga, which is such a shame, because I had high hopes for this from the last two months chapter but this month is a down grade of story and art.The ending and the merged zamasu figth better not disappoint us

the manga needs to improve with the next saga, and get rid off the annoying traits of this product, like less exposition,more tension and character development, and stop doing homage and be a little bit more creative with the figths.I'm hoping they include the Zen matches with the dangerous trio because Is highly possible that these matches might be skipped in this continuity which I hope that is not the case

Did you want Black in the manga to gain the same crazy power boost from the anime? Pink smoke clones coming out of pink time slots? This Black has several inconsistencies and a lot of fanservice

Trunks SSJ2 of the manga does not hit nor throw away Black SSJ Rosé as in the anime, nor gains an transformation without explanation and nonsense.

It has already been said that Toriyama reviews Toyotaro's Storyboards and makes changes when needed

Dude did I even mention that,my post is about me not liking the changes and the manga needs to improve with the next arc, yes black has some crazy power in the anime like the clones stuff, but that is version is still better than the manga

Is this the last DB AF episode? But SS5 did not make a appearance here yet, i thought toyotaro made SS5
[spoiler][/spoiler]

DB af got cancelled, and i think he did not created SS5, anyways did you enjoy AF

[TheMikado]

Is this the last DB AF episode? But SS5 did not make a appearance here yet, i thought toyotaro made SS5
[spoiler][/spoiler]

Holy crap those bang! So merged Zamasu was really always an AF character. Makes me wonder if Toriyama is just writing the outline based on what Toei/bandai and Toyotaro want to be in it.

[Bullza]

What if in the manga not only does Trunks not beat Merged Zamasu but Vegito doesn't either.

What if Goku, Vegeta and Trunks simply try to beat Merged Zamasu yet prove to be no match at all. So Goku uses the button and Zeno just kills him.

What if Merged Zamasu being "killed" and then that really bizarre sort of out of place cloud bodiless Zamasu was all just a Toei thing?

[jplaya2023]

what are you guys prediction for the next chapter?

Mines are as follows;

- Merged Z beats the holy hell outta goku and vegeta
- they retreat to gowasu and say fusion is the only way to win
- gowasu gives them potarra but the fusion does not work
- gowasu ask have they used it before and they say yes, and he tells them potarra can only be done once in your lifetime since it's permanent (like in the manga still)
- goku notes merged Z has found them and is on his way
- goku tells vegeta they need fusion and vegeta does not remember the steps and goku says he will need 3 minutes to teach him
- trunks says he will hold off merged Z while they get the dance down
- merged Z beats the crap outta trunks and tells him this is all his fault and he's the real threat.
- Trunks loses his shyt and powers up to ssj3 with blue ki surrounding his body
- gowasu notes trunks must've used godly ki to mix with his ssj ki to transform to the 3rd level
- goku and vegeta are in awe of trunks power but notes it won't last long as ssj3 drains ki fast
- trunks holds of merged Z but reverts to base when merged z is about to finish him (Trunks is saved)
- ssj blue gogeta is formed (his power alone is shaking the entire multiverse and all timelines)
chapter ends

[Noah]

What if in the manga not only does Trunks not beat Merged Zamasu but Vegito doesn't either.

What if Goku, Vegeta and Trunks simply try to beat Merged Zamasu yet prove to be no match at all. So Goku uses the button and Zeno just kills him.

What if Merged Zamasu being "killed" and then that really bizarre sort of out of place cloud bodiless Zamasu was all just a Toei thing?

Wrong thread, mate.