The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Kid Buu » Sat Jun 14, 2014 1:17 am

Tenshinhan Vs Piccolo: Equal Power Levels

I've been thinking about this one a lot recently. It's noted Goku has a similar fighting style to Piccolo once Goku is trained by Kami, but Tenshinhan train with Kami later on. Also Ten trains with King Kai much longer than Piccolo did, so I think Tenshinhan has the advantage in skill. They both have a lot of attacks, but most of them are exploitable (Ten's Multiform, Piccolo's Giant Size, etc).
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by TheGmGoken » Sat Jun 14, 2014 1:27 am

Can we count filler?

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Kid Buu » Sat Jun 14, 2014 1:41 am

Yeah, but what's different in filler?
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by TheGmGoken » Sat Jun 14, 2014 1:44 am

Kid Buu wrote:Yeah, but what's different in filler?
I'm GUESSING because Ten stayed on King Kai longer he used something similar to Kaioken.

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Post by Hugo Boss » Sun Jun 15, 2014 11:52 am

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Hellspawn28 » Sun Jun 15, 2014 7:28 pm

Base Vegito vs. Hildegarn (Second form)

Vegito can't go SSj. Who wins?
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Post by White Oni » Sun Jun 15, 2014 8:33 pm

Hellspawn28 wrote:Base Vegito vs. Hildegarn (Second form)

Vegito can't go SSj. Who wins?
Base Vegito rapes.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by xmysticgohanx » Sun Jun 15, 2014 9:17 pm

White Oni wrote:
Hellspawn28 wrote:Base Vegito vs. Hildegarn (Second form)

Vegito can't go SSj. Who wins?
Base Vegito rapes.
Yes, I have Base Vegito at Buutenks' power level.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by TheGmGoken » Sun Jun 15, 2014 9:27 pm

xmysticgohanx wrote:
White Oni wrote:
Hellspawn28 wrote:Base Vegito vs. Hildegarn (Second form)

Vegito can't go SSj. Who wins?
Base Vegito rapes.
Yes, I have Base Vegito at Buutenks' power level.

Krillin's Kienzan vs SSJ Vegito
Cell broke Kienzan(filler). I'm sure Vegetto can

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by TheGmGoken » Mon Jun 16, 2014 12:54 am

Kid Buu wrote:Tenshinhan Vs Piccolo: Equal Power Levels

I've been thinking about this one a lot recently. It's noted Goku has a similar fighting style to Piccolo once Goku is trained by Kami, but Tenshinhan train with Kami later on. Also Ten trains with King Kai much longer than Piccolo did, so I think Tenshinhan has the advantage in skill. They both have a lot of attacks, but most of them are exploitable (Ten's Multiform, Piccolo's Giant Size, etc).
I think Piccolo could take Ten. In a fight like stronger attacks matter. Ten is a smart fighter like Piccolo, so I can see this being a good match-up. I think Piccolo has a little more over Ten, though.
I think it depends on which Piccolo this is too.

Because if this is Pre Frieza arc Piccolo, then he just has his own experience from himself and his Father.

If this Artificial Human Arc, then he's got his own along with Nails experience.

If this is Late Cell or Boo Arc, then you have Kami's experience too, I know Kami isn't too big on fighting but he's a big thinker and would give him an intelligence advantage.

Personally, if it's the second two then I feel Piccolo/The Namek would take this due to having more experience and an edge overall in more skill and knowledge. I feel if it's the first one, then I think it would be more of a Piccolo Vs. Goku at the Budokai (I can't remember which it was again... someone please remind me) kind of fight, being a very close fight, coming down to one last minute move IMO.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Hitiro » Mon Jun 16, 2014 3:03 pm

TheGmGoken wrote:
Kid Buu wrote:Tenshinhan Vs Piccolo: Equal Power Levels

I've been thinking about this one a lot recently. It's noted Goku has a similar fighting style to Piccolo once Goku is trained by Kami, but Tenshinhan train with Kami later on. Also Ten trains with King Kai much longer than Piccolo did, so I think Tenshinhan has the advantage in skill. They both have a lot of attacks, but most of them are exploitable (Ten's Multiform, Piccolo's Giant Size, etc).
I think Piccolo could take Ten. In a fight like stronger attacks matter. Ten is a smart fighter like Piccolo, so I can see this being a good match-up. I think Piccolo has a little more over Ten, though.
I think it depends on which Piccolo this is too.

Because if this is Pre Freeza arc Piccolo, then he just has his own experience from himself and his Father.

If this Artificial Human Arc, then he's got his own along with Nails experience.

If this is Late Cell or Boo Arc, then you have Kami's experience too, I know Kami isn't too big on fighting but he's a big thinker and would give him an intelligence advantage.

Personally, if it's the second two then I feel Piccolo/The Namek would take this due to having more experience and an edge overall in more skill and knowledge. I feel if it's the first one, then I think it would be more of a Piccolo Vs. Goku at the Budokai (I can't remember which it was again... someone please remind me) kind of fight, being a very close fight, coming down to one last minute move IMO.
Wouldn't the destructive power of the Kikoho be devastating to Piccolo if Tienshinhan used it? It's understandable that the upgraded version could only hold Semi-perfect Cell back. With the stark difference in Tienshinhan and Cell's battle powers it is understandable. Equal Tienshinhan and Piccolo would mean a Kikoho nuke to Piccolo's face.

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Post by TheGmGoken » Mon Jun 16, 2014 3:13 pm

Piccolo is faster and would avoid the attack like Goku did. Unlike Cell Piccolo would expect it. Piccolo could use Makosoppa(SBC) but that takes time unless piccolo uses multi form. Ten also got an attack similar to Kaioken if we use filler.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Hitiro » Mon Jun 16, 2014 3:26 pm

TheGmGoken wrote:Piccolo is faster and would avoid the attack like Goku did. Unlike Cell Piccolo would expect it. Piccolo could use Makosoppa(SBC) but that takes time unless piccolo uses multi form. Ten also got an attack similar to Kaioken if we use filler.
Are we assuming Piccolo knows of the Kikoho now? Because I don't believe Piccolo has any knowledge of the technique. Goku was also warned to dodge it before he used it so Goku had a heads up he was going to use that attack. Had Goku not been warned prior to the attack I don't think he would have been able to dodge it.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by TheGmGoken » Mon Jun 16, 2014 3:30 pm

Hitiro wrote:
TheGmGoken wrote:Piccolo is faster and would avoid the attack like Goku did. Unlike Cell Piccolo would expect it. Piccolo could use Makosoppa(SBC) but that takes time unless piccolo uses multi form. Ten also got an attack similar to Kaioken if we use filler.
Are we assuming Piccolo knows of the Kikoho now? Because I don't believe Piccolo has any knowledge of the technique. Goku was also warned to dodge it before he used it so Goku had a heads up he was going to use that attack. Had Goku not been warned prior to the attack I don't think he would have been able to dodge it.
Didn't piccolo see a mini Kikoho and one against Nappa? I suspect that Piccolo at least knows not to charge in.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Hitiro » Mon Jun 16, 2014 3:35 pm

TheGmGoken wrote:Didn't piccolo see a mini Kikoho and one against Nappa? I suspect that Piccolo at least knows not to charge in.
I actually forgot about that. So I guess Piccolo does have the advantage, lol.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by New_Guy » Mon Jun 16, 2014 3:50 pm

Goten vs Ledgic
This would certainly have a different and better outcome than when Trunks attempted to battle Ledgic back in the black star saga. My backup being how easily Baby made a fool out of Trunks in his infant form but got owned by Goten in his more powerful teenage form before infecting him. Since Base/Ssj Goku and Ledgic had a seemingly balanced battle I think Goten would definitely be able to go toe to toe with him and get a well deserved win out of it.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by TheGmGoken » Mon Jun 16, 2014 3:53 pm

Hitiro wrote:
TheGmGoken wrote:Didn't piccolo see a mini Kikoho and one against Nappa? I suspect that Piccolo at least knows not to charge in.
I actually forgot about that. So I guess Piccolo does have the advantage, lol.
If we use filler Ten got a kaioken like attack. Wonder how that goes

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Hitiro » Tue Jun 17, 2014 3:18 am

TheGmGoken wrote:If we use filler Ten got a kaioken like attack. Wonder how that goes
I think that would defeat the purpose of them being on equal terms. If we were to assume he learnt Kaioken, or a variant, then it is going to be Tienshinhan's win because he'll only need to double or triple his battle power for a moment to deal the final blow.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

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Buu saga SSJ4 Goku runs the Majin Gauntlet. Think he can reach/match Buuhan?
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by White Oni » Wed Jun 18, 2014 6:00 pm

KentalSSJ6 wrote:Buu saga SSJ4 Goku runs the Majin Gauntlet. Think he can reach/match Buuhan?
If he's facing each on independent occasions:

Majin buu: Decimation
Super Buu: Not a challenge
Buutenks: Close battle, could go either way, but Goku has an edge.
Buuhan: There would be a fight, but Goku wouldn't be able to pull through.

If he's fighting one right after another.

Majin Buu: Decimation
Super Buu: Not a challenge.
Buutenks: Barely pulls through.
Buuhan: Goku gets destroyed.

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