Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

[rereboy]

...Dammit!

This is the most disappointed I've been story wise in the main story thus far I think. Tapion doesn't deserve this win, he did nothing in this fight but let Hirudegarn do all the dirty work. I'd have been much more interested in seeing what Kuririn could go on to do. Gah.

Guess I've got Vegetto V.S. the mystery guy to look forward to at least.

He already fought way better against Hirudegarn than he should conceivably be able to.

In the movie, Hirudegarn knocked Gotenks out of fusion in one hit and was fast enough to keep up with Gohan, Goku and the others.

In this fight, Krillin blocked a punch from Hirudegarn with his hands, and it took two direct hits from Hirudegarn for Krillin to pass out. Not to mention that he was fast enough to avoid lots of his attacks. Also, he almost pulled off a win with his strategy. The only reason why it didn't work was because Tapion (with Hirudegarn's power) didn't faint from Krillin's attack... He held on, while Hirudegarn, inevitably, defeated Krillin.

All in all, seems fair to me. I would also have been satisfied with Tapion fainting and Krillin winning when Krillin attacked, but this turn of events doesn't bother me since Krillin fought well and its probably more interesting to see Cell VS Hirudegarn.

But I did feel that the end to the fight came somewhat abruptly.

[Gyt Kaliba]

That's the thing though, this Kuririn is a completely different character, power wise anyway, compared to the Kuririn we get in the main series. He's seemingly a lot stronger, so I don't see it as so crazy that he could have been strong enough to win - but he was definitely having to use some strategies here, so even if he'd won, it wouldn't have been because he was flat out stronger or anything.

What bugs me about Tapion winning is that he did absolutely nothing to earn it. They already tanked the poor guy by making him a "musician" who can't fight, rather than giving him any fighting prowess at all...and now they've had him win a fight without doing a single thing worthwhile. It just irks me. Maybe we'll see Tapion using Hirudegarn's power as his own in the next fight instead of just letting the monster do everything for him, but it's too little too late for me at this point. Bleh.

Granted, I'm still gonna follow the comic, I'm not saying it's ruined the entire thing for me or anything. I'm just bothered by this particular fight's outcome.

[Insertclevername]

Right there with you, Gyt. I hope they give Kuririn more spotlight behind the scenes; interacting with the Saiyans of the main timeline (Gokuu, Vegeta and their offspring).

[TheMightyOzaru]

I'd say tolerab-eh, never mind, he's still obnoxious.

Meh, DBM Broly is fairly cool I'd say. Yeah it provides some of the unintelligible fans with more Broly fan wank but as a whole he has more character since he can actually from sentences. Yeah he isn't great or anything but still.

[Marco Polo]

Right there with you, Gyt. I hope they give Kuririn more spotlight behind the scenes; interacting with the Saiyans of the main timeline (Gokuu, Vegeta and their offspring).

I hope Hildegarn's attack didn't kill him.

[rereboy]

That's the thing though, this Kuririn is a completely different character, power wise anyway, compared to the Kuririn we get in the main series. He's seemingly a lot stronger, so I don't see it as so crazy that he could have been strong enough to win - but he was definitely having to use some strategies here, so even if he'd won, it wouldn't have been because he was flat out stronger or anything.

What bugs me about Tapion winning is that he did absolutely nothing to earn it. They already tanked the poor guy by making him a "musician" who can't fight, rather than giving him any fighting prowess at all...and now they've had him win a fight without doing a single thing worthwhile. It just irks me. Maybe we'll see Tapion using Hirudegarn's power as his own in the next fight instead of just letting the monster do everything for him, but it's too little too late for me at this point. Bleh.

Granted, I'm still gonna follow the comic, I'm not saying it's ruined the entire thing for me or anything. I'm just bothered by this particular fight's outcome.

And he is in fact a lot stronger than the Krillin we know. But he is not stronger than Hirudegarn, who should be beyond Krillin, no matter the universe. Having him be stronger than that would be a little to much Krillin fan wanking in my opinion. Besides, he could just as easily have won even with this level of power, he just wasn't lucky, since Tapion didn't faint.

Also, how exactly would Tapion deserve more to win if he fought using just Hirudegarn's power and not his body? He's still using power that doesn't belong to him. Seems pretty much the same to me... Anyway, the outcome of a battle shouldn't just be who "deserves" it more, in universe and out if universe. Tapion had great power, even if wasn't just his own, greater than Krillin's, so it was probable that Krillin would lose. That is a in universe reason beyond deserving to win. And out of universe, the authors probably felt that it would be more interesting for Tapion to win in regards to the story or just in regards to the dynamic of the next battle.

[Saiga]

Agreed with everything rereboy said (is that a first? ). I also find Hildegaan to be way cooler than Tapion so I'm glad he does the actual fighting.

[Gyt Kaliba]

And he is in fact a lot stronger than the Krillin we know. But he is not stronger than Hirudegarn, who should be beyond Krillin, no matter the universe. Having him be stronger than that would be a little to much Krillin fan wanking in my opinion. Besides, he could just as easily have won even with this level of power, he just wasn't lucky, since Tapion didn't faint.

Like I said, I'm fine with Kuririn being weaker than Hirudegarn. My only issue is the fact that he went into this match on his own, fighting at his best, and showing that he's got a lot of really cool new moves (like the Kienzan thing he had going on towards the end here) to show off. On the flip side, the only thing Tapion showcased is an ability to send out Hirudegarn in the hopes of it taking down his opponent for him, and not even being smart enough to stay out of the way before getting hit. It just feels really off to me to have Kuririn lose here, especially after their constant reminders that Tapion isn't anything without Hirudegarn.

Also, how exactly would Tapion deserve more to win if he fought using just Hirudegarn's power and not his body? He's still using power that doesn't belong to him. Seems pretty much the same to me...

If he'd been using Hirudegarn's power from within, then it still wouldn't have been his power maybe, but at least he'd have been actually doing something instead of, again, standing there like a lump on a log. It could have even been a thing where he had all this power, but wasn't that adept at using it (kinda like Oob at first), to even the playing field a little more. Or to pull even more from Naruto sort-of, maybe Hirudegarn's power would slowly become Tapion's own natural power as he uses it more and more - or kind of like Kurama in Yu Yu Hakusho as well.

Anyway, the outcome of a battle shouldn't just be who "deserves" it more, in universe and out if universe. Tapion had great power, even if wasn't just his own, greater than Krillin's, so it was probable that Krillin would lose. That is a in universe reason beyond deserving to win. And out of universe, the authors probably felt that it would be more interesting for Tapion to win in regards to the story or just in regards to the dynamic of the next battle.

I can agree to that, but that's just where I disagree with them. I find it more interesting if Kuririn had won, and to see just how far he could go against Cell. Granted, it's probably not very far, but I still would have preferred this over Tapion throwing the proverbial Pokeball out to use Hirudegarn yet again. But again, that's just me I guess.

[coola]

Sigh, all this pointless filler, I'm sorry to say that, but even Namek filler isn`t as annoying as fillers here

[DBZGTKOSDH]

Lol with Vegeta competing with Goku even in food.

[Hellspawn28]

I'm surprise to see Tapion winning. He is going to have to fight Cell soon and I'm going to bet that Cell is going to kill him.

[Gyt Kaliba]

And once again, Goku proves himself to be a truly great parent. Father of the Year material here.

I wonder what Gohan's request was...and remind me again, this is the Gohan from the Vegetto universe, not our canon one, right?

Sigh, all this pointless filler, I'm sorry to say that, but even Namek filler isn`t as annoying as fillers here

I dunno, it looks like we'll be getting some character interaction, so I'm actually looking forward to this a little. And with how long the Kuririn/Tapion fight ran, they're going to want to space it out a little before we jump into Vegetto's fight.

[Tzigi]

I wonder what Gohan's request was...and remind me again, this is the Gohan from the Vegetto universe, not our canon one, right?

Right. You can see here that the one who went to talk to the Kaio Shins was the one from universe 16:


and the other one (the "canon"/universe 18 one) went to talk to the "Super Saiyans"/universe 13 here:

[Marco Polo]

Whoever said the new artist draw the heads of the characters way too small was definitely right

[Saiga]

I didn't even notice that we were already halfway through the second round. It feels like it's moving much faster than the first round (although obviously there are half the fights to get through).

And I don't mind the filler break. I would also like to see some more character interactions. I'm surprised Salagir is having both Gohan's do things, despite neither being a competitor. It's nice.

[rereboy]

Sigh, all this pointless filler, I'm sorry to say that, but even Namek filler isn`t as annoying as fillers here

I hope you're joking...

[TonyTheTiger]

I wouldn't even call this "filler." The lack of the characters interacting outside of matches is something that bugs me about DBM. So the more breaks the better. After all, the rest of the tournament will actually move pretty quickly from here on out since each round will progressively have fewer matches. I think there are only like 20-something left.

[Rocketman]

If it wasn't the same old stupid-ass HURR HE EATS LOT OF FUD, maybe.

[coola]

Sigh, all this pointless filler, I'm sorry to say that, but even Namek filler isn`t as annoying as fillers here

I hope you're joking...

Well, if that break gonna include some character interaction, than it isn`t too bad, but, if it`s same joke repeat for few pages, than no, i think Namek filler is better than this.

[AnimeMaakuo]

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