Official On-Going DBZ 2013 Movie Thread: "Battle of Gods"

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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2013 Movie Thread: "Battle of Gods

Post by Draken » Tue Apr 16, 2013 5:48 pm

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Draken wrote:You just said when he got mad he used his full power :problem:
He did. Oob unleashed his power when he got mad, and went full power when he threw the Kiai on Goku (D7 stated that he raised his power by throwing the Kiai). Oob was strong, but he could get that strong only when he was mad, and on top of that, he didn't even know how to fight. He had no idea about ki. So, while Oob met Goku's expectations about his power (he was as strong as Pure Boo), Goku had to train him first, to teach him how to control his power, and how to use ki. So that in the end, they could have an awesome fight together.
Kid Buu full power should be able to easily one shot someone 400x weaker than him. The kiai should have blown Goku apart.

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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2013 Movie Thread: "Battle of Gods

Post by Saiyan Prince Vegeta » Tue Apr 16, 2013 5:49 pm

I know right @Alakazam, BoG doesn't even imply anything in GT might have happened yet some people are willing to bend what has been stated previously to fit in with it. I don't care if GT follows it, but IMO it can't at the moment.

Anyway, I love the picture where Vegeta and Bulma both have their arms folded, I wonder if that was meant to be like that, or it just happened and nobody even noticed. :P

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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2013 Movie Thread: "Battle of Gods

Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Tue Apr 16, 2013 5:51 pm

Draken wrote:Kid Buu full power should be able to easily one shot someone 400x weaker than him.
Oob most likely wasn't at Boo's level when he was having his brief fight with Goku. Not until the Kiai.
Draken wrote:The kiai should have blown Goku apart.
The Kiai is used to attack & send away things, and Goku did get damaged.
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2013 Movie Thread: "Battle of Gods

Post by Draken » Tue Apr 16, 2013 5:55 pm

DBZGTKOSDH wrote:
Draken wrote:Kid Buu full power should be able to easily one shot someone 400x weaker than him.
Oob most likely wasn't at Boo's level when he was having his brief fight with Goku. Not until the Kiai.
Draken wrote:The kiai should have blown Goku apart.
The Kiai is used to attack & send away things, and Goku did get damaged.
A Kiai is like a powerful blast that emulates the force of something like a punch or kick, only invisible through the use of ki. Using a full powered kiai on someone 400x weaker than you would probably blow them apart, or at least snap his neck or something =/.

Anyways come on, you are clearly looking at things to fit your own interpretation, as I have already stated, and I'm looking at my things to fit my own interpretation, as I have stated. Why can't you let it go lol.

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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2013 Movie Thread: "Battle of Gods

Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Tue Apr 16, 2013 6:00 pm

No, the Kiai is not as strong as a punch. It attacks & sends people flying, according to the Daizenshuu.
Draken wrote:Anyways come on, you are clearly looking at things to fit your own interpretation, as I have already stated, and I'm looking at my things to fit my own interpretation, as I have stated. Why can't you let it go lol.
I go by the statements in the manga, and the statements clearly show that Goku was expecting Oob to be as strong as Pure Boo, and that Oob met Goku's expectations. Then I try to fit the whole fight with those statements.
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.

Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2013 Movie Thread: "Battle of Gods

Post by The Monkey King » Tue Apr 16, 2013 6:10 pm

There should be a separate thread for BoG and GT relations :lol:

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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2013 Movie Thread: "Battle of Gods

Post by Draken » Tue Apr 16, 2013 6:21 pm

DBZGTKOSDH wrote:No, the Kiai is not as strong as a punch. It attacks & sends people flying, according to the Daizenshuu.
Draken wrote:Anyways come on, you are clearly looking at things to fit your own interpretation, as I have already stated, and I'm looking at my things to fit my own interpretation, as I have stated. Why can't you let it go lol.
I go by the statements in the manga, and the statements clearly show that Goku was expecting Oob to be as strong as Pure Boo, and that Oob met Goku's expectations. Then I try to fit the whole fight with those statements.
It's a force. You can't tell me you would expect to live after being hit with, say 40000 pounds of force. (assuming you can only give out 100 pounds of force)

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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2013 Movie Thread: "Battle of Gods

Post by nekobi » Wed Apr 17, 2013 12:27 am

I apologize if this has been asked before, but does anyone know how long this will be in theaters in Japan? I'm going to be in Fukuoka at the end of May so I'm wondering if maybe I'll have the chance to see it while I'm there.

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Post by Draken » Wed Apr 17, 2013 12:34 am

nekobi wrote:I apologize if this has been asked before, but does anyone know how long this will be in theaters in Japan? I'm going to be in Fukuoka at the end of May so I'm wondering if maybe I'll have the chance to see it while I'm there.
I thought it was typically around 6 months?

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Post by seansmith9322 » Wed Apr 17, 2013 12:46 am

Draken wrote:
nekobi wrote:I apologize if this has been asked before, but does anyone know how long this will be in theaters in Japan? I'm going to be in Fukuoka at the end of May so I'm wondering if maybe I'll have the chance to see it while I'm there.
I thought it was typically around 6 months?
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Post by Insertclevername » Wed Apr 17, 2013 12:51 am

If it's six weeks you might have a chance nekobi!
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Post by DragonBoxZTheMovies » Wed Apr 17, 2013 12:54 am

Did they re-screen the Jump Special?
http://www.cinematoday.jp/page/N0052075

Oh, and more attendance figures:
http://www.cinematoday.jp/page/N0052179

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Post by Insertclevername » Wed Apr 17, 2013 12:55 am

Being able to see the Jump Special on the big screen would be...amazing... :)
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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2013 Movie Thread: "Battle of Gods

Post by nekobi » Wed Apr 17, 2013 1:07 am

Hmm...hopefully it's more than 6 weeks because I won't be there until May 25. :( I guess I will just have to wait and see!

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Post by Chuquita » Wed Apr 17, 2013 4:23 am

I was just lamenting the lack of smiling ssjg Goku art. 2ch thread delivers:
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Not sure what magazine. Could be this month's VJump, but I don't know if it is or not.
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Post by kei17 » Wed Apr 17, 2013 5:11 am

I dislike the jaw that artist draws.

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Post by alakazam^ » Wed Apr 17, 2013 6:00 am

Chuquita wrote:Not sure what magazine. Could be this month's VJump, but I don't know if it is or not.
It says "VJump" in the top right corner of the card.

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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2013 Movie Thread: "Battle of Gods

Post by Bullza » Wed Apr 17, 2013 9:14 am

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/intl/japan ... cal&p=.htm

As of the 14th Battle of Gods has made $23.6 million or 2.32 billion Yen in total. It made $2.45 million or 241 million Yen for the weekend.

It's a pretty hefty drop from last weekend but it's ok because last weekend it held up really well. Though it seems it's because all the kids are back in school now. It's sixth and final week should be Golden Week where it may see an increase over the previous week.

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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2013 Movie Thread: "Battle of Gods

Post by Chuquita » Wed Apr 17, 2013 12:53 pm

alakazam^ wrote:
Chuquita wrote:Not sure what magazine. Could be this month's VJump, but I don't know if it is or not.
It says "VJump" in the top right corner of the card.
*Notices the logo now.*
This tends to happen to me when I post so late at night.

Since it is VJump, I look forward to any other DB stuff in the issue.VJump's preview page didn't mention DB at all this month so I'm pleasantly surprised.
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Post by Kakarot88 » Wed Apr 17, 2013 1:14 pm

With regard to the New Dragon Ball World Exhibit and timeline : http://www.kanzenshuu.com/2013/04/17/re ... l-exhibit/


Do you think that means that GT is part of the official timeline now, despite:
(1) the Pilaf Gang turning chibi in the movie and being really old in GT
(2) Gohan being able to use his full power without needing to go Super Saiyan due to Elder Kai in the movie but no longer having his full potential unlocked in GT and still going Super Saiyan?

Now, I vaguely recall some interview I thought I read on this website that Toriyama tried to explain the initial postings of Gohan for Battle of Gods as a Super Saiyan because Gohan stopped training, but I could be wrong.

(3) After Battle of Gods, GT seems irreconcilable given the fact Goku’s family would know that in the presence of 5 pure hearted Saiyans Goku could go Super Saiyan God and when Vegeta shows up during Goku’s battle with Omega Shenron they have the requisite number [Pan, Trunks, Goten, Gohan were already there] and do not do that. Now, I know the new movie was obviously conceived of and written long after GT but that’s the point it does not succinctly fit in if GT is not supposed to be a cross dimensional “what if scenario” like how Toriyam view the other movies.
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