Official On-Going DBZ 2015 Movie Thread: "Resurrection 'F'"

[Friezacooler]

Dbz was Bleach before bleach was cool.

No. Bleach is crap.

Don't you think this attitude is three or four Freeza forms too later?

There is no correlation between the old transformations and this joke. Now he is a Gold Saint.

And about Jaco, what is he even gonna do? We have guys beating Gohan a Piccolo around, what can he possibly do? Just wondering.

Beat them up maybe after Piccolo and Gohan lost to them lol. won't be surprised if they forgot on purpose, Gohan and Piccolo have become stronger during the Cell saga haha. And if the movie gets made with a I don't care mentality about those characters as long as it is entertaining. why power up fodders if you can be lazy and forget the strength they had in the past Piccolo and Gohan are clearly characters toei has never cared about lol. specially how they treated them in the past movies LOOL.

[TheGmGoken]

Remember when some fans said "Just wait. Toriyama is going to make Freeza's form awesome but simple".


Well....I was wrong . I was wrong by a lot. The more I look at the form. The more I hate it. I remained positive about everything in the movie until we see the movie. But no! I won't accept this ugly form. It's the worst transformation I've ever seen in ANY anime (or manga). This is disgusting. Atrocious. Awful. Words can't describe how bad this purple and gold(nice royal reference) piece of shit looks.

[Beerus-sama]

That shot of Vegeta over Goku. I hope it's not something like "Weakling, I'll handle this." or a switcheroo deal again. I hope it's something like Vegeta helping Goku get up and then promising to defeat Freeza.

while the first thing sounds a bit bad at this point for Vegeta, the last thing doesn't sounds like Vegeta at all (the part when he promises...)

[Doctor.]

That shot of Vegeta over Goku. I hope it's not something like "Weakling, I'll handle this." or a switcheroo deal again. I hope it's something like Vegeta helping Goku get up and then promising to defeat Freeza.

while the first thing sounds a bit bad at this point for Vegeta, the last thing doesn't sounds like Vegeta at all (the part when he promises...)

It does. He's friends with Goku now, he's his rival, and just like Goku promised to avenge the Saiyans for Vegeta on Namek, now this comes full circle and Vegeta does the same thing.

[Dyno]

Toriyama can't come up with good things anymore... See Minus.

It is time for him to retire and let those two guys handle his work.

[Kakarot9001]

You should deal with

1. the fact that you cannot get a simple joke
2. side-story and not canonical is not the same thing
3. Dragon Ball has no fully established canonicty and GT is undefined

1. Nope

2. Yes it is.

3. Oh I don't think so! How you explain why Goku never used SSJG which is more powerful than SSJ4 in GT? And why Freeza was so weak in GT and years before (FnF) he was the strongest yet. GT is a pure flaw, if they trying to making something to fit with GT storyline they would never introduce those new transformations. So that's a confirmation that they are trully ignoring this, GT never will be canon.

[Kamiccolo9]

CM saying they were beautiful, and Lord Beerus saying "they really weren't" isn't the latter saying that the former was wrong? When did this sudden shift in the perceptions of the English language happen?

And if you didn't know what I was talking about, why did you waste the last 4 pages arguing with me about it? You didn't seem to have a problem understanding my intent then.

He is stating his opinion. He is stating that he disagrees, that he doesn't think the CGI was good and he offers a visual example. That's what he does.

By your logic, its impossible to disagree with anyone without it implying that we are stating that the other person is "wrong" or without always finishing the sentence with "in my opinion".

I didn't know what you were talking about someone stating that the other person "was wrong" because nobody said such.

My sole point in this argument was to make you realize that its unrealistic to demand and criticize someone for only offering a single example of the bad CGI, instead of a whole dissection of the CGI of the movie, like you apparently wanted...

A disagreement would be "I disagree" or, "I think you are wrong." "They're really not" is an objective statement that someone is wrong.

My logic is also the logic of this site, which I posted for you a page or so back, and you subsequently ignored. If you make a point, support it. A single image is not a valid post. Simply agreeing or disagreeing is not a valid post. Rule 3 under the forum rules link, unless that's "too unrealistic."

This "dissection" you refer to could be obtained by a 10 second trip from here to Youtube. I myself did it in 8, but whatever. I don't think, nor would I expect anyone else to, that spending well under a minute to gather your proof is any kind of unrealistic effort.

[Retan]

Remember when some fans said "Just wait. Toriyama is going to make Freeza's form awesome but simple".


Well....I was wrong . I was wrong by a lot. The more I look at the form. The more I hate it. I remained positive about everything in the movie until we see the movie. But no! I won't accept this ugly form. It's the worst transformation I've ever seen in ANY anime (or manga). This is disgusting. Atrocious. Awful. Words can't describe how bad this purple and gold(nice royal reference) piece of shit looks.

See I'm the opposite of this, the more I look at it the more comfortable I get with it.

[fadeddreams5]

Remember when some fans said "Just wait. Toriyama is going to make Freeza's form awesome but simple".


Well....I was wrong . I was wrong by a lot. The more I look at the form. The more I hate it. I remained positive about everything in the movie until we see the movie. But no! I won't accept this ugly form. It's the worst transformation I've ever seen in ANY anime (or manga). This is disgusting. Atrocious. Awful. Words can't describe how bad this purple and gold(nice royal reference) piece of shit looks.

What would your reaction be if Goten is presented with a bad haircut and acne?

[jjgp1112]

I just saw Freeza's new form and ugh. I despise it.

I've always seen Dragon Ball as the "different anime" or "the pioneer." Now with this, is just another Bleach, another Pokemon, another whatever. I'm hating everything about the movie so far. No expectation whatsoever.

Dragon Ball Z has been about stacking transformations since the day before forever.

[GokuRules987]

Toriyama can't come up with good things anymore... See Minus.

It is time for him to retire and let those two guys handle his work.

Toriyama should let me continue his work I'll make Goku very stronk!

and show the fans Gohan and Videl doing sexy time

[Cetra]

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1. Nope

2. Yes it is.

3. Oh I don't think so! How you explain why Goku never used SSJG which is more powerful than SSJ4 in GT? And why Freeza was so weak in GT and years before (FnF) he was the strongest yet. GT is a pure flaw, if they trying to making something to fit with GT storyline they would never introduce those new transformations. So that's a confirmation that they are trully ignoring this, GT never will be canon.

You have no idea what you are talking about.

1. You needed 2 people to actually explain you the joke.
2. No, it isn't. Trunks' sidestory is canon. Final Fantasy sidestories are canon. Many fictional sidestories are canon. Please accept that you are wrong or just don't even waste your time talking to others.
3. It does not matter what you think. Canonicity is a pure thing controlled through the power of law. If Akira Toriyama and Toei want some fully established canonicity they will fully establish it, if not some things are clear and some are undefined. No matter what, you can''t decide. And stop fantasizing about stuff like "this is stronger than that" which was never stated.

Reported for trolling.

[Beerus-sama]

That shot of Vegeta over Goku. I hope it's not something like "Weakling, I'll handle this." or a switcheroo deal again. I hope it's something like Vegeta helping Goku get up and then promising to defeat Freeza.

while the first thing sounds a bit bad at this point for Vegeta, the last thing doesn't sounds like Vegeta at all (the part when he promises...)

It does. He's friends with Goku now, he's his rival, and just like Goku promised to avenge the Saiyans for Vegeta on Namek, now this comes full circle and Vegeta does the same thing.

but thats because that's how Goku is, Vegeta has pride that wont let him say that even if he has changed.

[Dyno]

Vegeta has pride that wont let him say that even if he has changed.

Well, Vegeta has pride and danced in the last movie... I think not even "pride" can protect him anymore.

[TheGmGoken]

Remember when some fans said "Just wait. Toriyama is going to make Freeza's form awesome but simple".


Well....I was wrong . I was wrong by a lot. The more I look at the form. The more I hate it. I remained positive about everything in the movie until we see the movie. But no! I won't accept this ugly form. It's the worst transformation I've ever seen in ANY anime (or manga). This is disgusting. Atrocious. Awful. Words can't describe how bad this purple and gold(nice royal reference) piece of shit looks.

What would your reaction be if Goten is presented with a bad haircut and acne?

Yes we get it. I'm a Goten fanboy . My post was about Freeza not Goten.

[JulieYBM]

Official upload of the trailer, yes, I came, too.

[Rozay]

So... Toriyama's new transformations are just recolor jobs now, huh. Next movie is gonna be what? Black Cell?
That said... I don't hate it. Just as I didn't hate SSJG. Didn't love it either, but oh well

By the way, I love the thought that there were some people that dismissed GT because it was "too colorful".

The thing I'm excited the most about this is that it seems like Vegeta will be the one to handle Frieza after Goku takes a beating.

[SonsOfUlron21]

3rd trailer is out guys.

[Beerus-sama]

Vegeta has pride that wont let him say that even if he has changed.

Well, Vegeta has pride and danced in the last movie... I think not even "pride" can protect him anymore.

But that was something unavoidable, it was that or earth is gone.
Here you want Vegeta to say something that for his character would sound cheesy and not like him just so he can repeat the scene were Goku promised to beat freeza and avenge all the saiyajin back in Namek.

[fadeddreams5]

Toriyama can't come up with good things anymore... See Minus.

It is time for him to retire and let those two guys handle his work.

One of those guys wrote Broly into a story and intended to make him a good guy.

The other sent Bardock into a world filled with Mario-looking characters, and messed with the plot of the original special, which happens to be my favorite standalone original DBZ work.

Toriyama gave us Minus, stripped SSJ2 and SSJ3 away from us, continued to make Gohan a bitch, and made Frieza a (super saiyan) prodigy.

Toei gave us GT.

Hollywood gave us Dragon Ball Evolution.

idk. I don't trust anyone anymore. By comparison, Toriyama is still the best.