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RandomGuy96 · Post by **RandomGuy96** » Sat Apr 27, 2013 6:06 am

Yakon's power was given at about 1/4 of Buu Saga SS Goku. That is waaaaaaaaaay more than enough to roflstomp Android Arc characters.

omegalucas · Post by **omegalucas** » Sat Apr 27, 2013 7:07 am

I'm thinking this happens when Trunks is a kid, because if it happened later (like "after" the Cell Games) then I think Gohan would be in the tournament... unless he came to life and then died again of course.

Puto · Post by **Puto** » Sat Apr 27, 2013 8:04 am

Godo wrote: Dabra, on the other hand, is another matter.
I doubt they would be able to defeat him, even together, without getting some super awesome boost. Either that, or they use Mafuba. :)

Well, they could just kill Babidi, which would free Dabra from his mind-control anyway, and then they wouldn't have to deal with him at all.

Marco Polo · Post by **Marco Polo** » Sat Apr 27, 2013 8:30 am

Puto wrote:Well, they could just kill Babidi, which would free Dabra from his mind-control anyway, and then they wouldn't have to deal with him at all.

Why wouldn't they have to deal with him? He's the Demon King.

rereboy · Post by **rereboy** » Sat Apr 27, 2013 11:06 am

Saiga wrote:
rereboy wrote:
Gyt Kaliba wrote:The art looks good, I am intrigued. But...wait, Gohan's still alive for this? That's different and could prove fun - most 'future Boo arc' stuff I see seems to always take place after Trunks has returned to the future.
Which wouldn't make sense at all. Chronologically, Babidi arrived on Earth when Trunks was a child. In the future of future Trunks there is no reason for him to arrive later than that.
Who says Babidi has to arrive at the same time in two completely different timelines?

Nothing that Trunks altered in the past would have any impact on Babidi's decision of when to come to Earth because he was very far from Earth. So unless you believe that the time travel itself produces random changes not directly connected to the time traveler, yes he should have arrived at the same time.

Gyt Kaliba · Post by **Gyt Kaliba** » Sat Apr 27, 2013 11:49 am

rereboy wrote:
Gyt Kaliba wrote:The art looks good, I am intrigued. But...wait, Gohan's still alive for this? That's different and could prove fun - most 'future Boo arc' stuff I see seems to always take place after Trunks has returned to the future.
Which wouldn't make sense at all. Chronologically, Babidi arrived on Earth when Trunks was a child. In the future of future Trunks there is no reason for him to arrive later than that.

I'm not saying it makes any sense for Babidi to arrive later in Trunks' timeline, I'm just saying that seems to be how most takes on this story idea have done it in the past - at least, the stuff I've seen always did it that way. So I'm kind of excited to see it play out differently here, especially if it gives us more Future Gohan to work with.

Saiga · Post by **Saiga** » Sat Apr 27, 2013 9:05 pm

rereboy wrote:
Nothing that Trunks altered in the past would have any impact on Babidi's decision of when to come to Earth because he was very far from Earth. So unless you believe that the time travel itself produces random changes not directly connected to the time traveler, yes he should have arrived at the same time.

But this is DBM. Most of the Universes are caused by people deciding to do something different without impetus.

rereboy · Post by **rereboy** » Sat Apr 27, 2013 9:46 pm

Saiga wrote:
rereboy wrote:
Nothing that Trunks altered in the past would have any impact on Babidi's decision of when to come to Earth because he was very far from Earth. So unless you believe that the time travel itself produces random changes not directly connected to the time traveler, yes he should have arrived at the same time.
But this is DBM. Most of the Universes are caused by people deciding to do something different without impetus.

The subject was the common theories regarding Buu's and Babidi's presence in the Future Trunk's timeline.

And regarding DBM, taking into considerations the universes specified in the cover, it seems that the point of this special will be to offer an explanation to what happened in the world of Future Trunks regarding Babidi and Buu, and not so much to show us a different universe.

Saiga · Post by **Saiga** » Sat Apr 27, 2013 10:02 pm

rereboy wrote:
The subject was the common theories regarding Buu's and Babidi's presence in the Future Trunk's timeline.

And regarding DBM, taking into considerations the universes specified in the cover, it seems that the point of this special will be to offer an explanation to what happened in the world of Future Trunks regarding Babidi and Buu, and not so much to show us a different universe.

Even in regard to common theories Babidi doesn't have to visit Earth at the same time in every timeline. There are differences between Trunks' timeline and the main timeline that can't be explained by time travel. Also, there is a timeline where Trunks decided to use a shutdown remote instead of getting stronger, so even in the manga there is precedence for different decisions being made by the "same" characters.

miguelnuva1 · Post by **miguelnuva1** » Sat Apr 27, 2013 10:08 pm

F Gohan is on the cover and 18 and 17 killed Trunks in univ 14 didn't they? That being said this could take place with Trunks being 8 and Gohan being 15 and nothing would really change.

I'm still hopping for a Android and Super Saiyan team up against Dabura and then maybe Gohan can rage boost and kill Dabura.

RandomGuy96 · Post by **RandomGuy96** » Sat Apr 27, 2013 10:12 pm

If he can't kill the androids, there's absolutely no way he's going to scratch Yakon. Throwing in Dabura is just cruel.

Saiga · Post by **Saiga** » Sat Apr 27, 2013 10:18 pm

Yakon's kiri reading is not indicative of anything. Have a kiri around 1/4 of Super Saiyan Goku does not mean he has a Battle Power around 1/4 of Super Saiyan Goku.

rereboy · Post by **rereboy** » Sun Apr 28, 2013 9:02 am

Saiga wrote:
Even in regard to common theories Babidi doesn't have to visit Earth at the same time in every timeline. There are differences between Trunks' timeline and the main timeline that can't be explained by time travel.

Hence my "unless you believe that the time travel itself produces random changes not directly connected to the time traveler, yes he should have arrived at the same time."

What you said about the remote is not a very good argument for this though. The reason why in certain Timelines Trunks used a remote and in other he didn't was because of Cell's interference. If it wasn't for him, even in the main timeline, they would probably end up dealing with the androids by building a remote to shut them off. But when Cell showed up from the future, there really was no other way to win besides getting stronger. So its not something that can't be explained directly by the time travelers interference.

Marco Polo · Post by **Marco Polo** » Sun Apr 28, 2013 9:42 am

Timelines =/= universes

Timelines "branching off as the result of time travel" become different universes, but not all universes are timelines "branching off as the result of time travel". Some are simply parallel worlds with random (quantic?) variations.

omegalucas · Post by **omegalucas** » Sun Apr 28, 2013 2:29 pm

774... so I guess that's the same year of "our" Boo arc.

Gyt Kaliba · Post by **Gyt Kaliba** » Sun Apr 28, 2013 2:32 pm

Wait...did Gohan just sense the Androids? *blink* Uhh...huh.

Beyond that though, the art looks good, and I'm still interested to see where they go with this.

omegalucas · Post by **omegalucas** » Sun Apr 28, 2013 2:34 pm

Gyt Kaliba wrote:Wait...did Gohan just sense the Androids? *blink* Uhh...huh.

Beyond that though, the art looks good, and I'm still interested to see where they go with this.

He sensed Pui Pui or Dabura... if you look at the image he seems to be looking AT the androids now

Gyt Kaliba · Post by **Gyt Kaliba** » Sun Apr 28, 2013 2:38 pm

omegalucas wrote:
Gyt Kaliba wrote:Wait...did Gohan just sense the Androids? *blink* Uhh...huh.

Beyond that though, the art looks good, and I'm still interested to see where they go with this.
He sensed Pui Pui or Dabura... if you look at the image he seems to be looking AT the androids now

I thought of that, but...hmm...doesn't seem very clear (though probably just cuz I've only got this one page at the moment), but you're probably right. That's a pretty big mistake to make, and it looks like he's floating in the air in front of the sun there, so it probably was him looking elsewhere then.

Marco Polo · Post by **Marco Polo** » Sun Apr 28, 2013 4:26 pm

This rounder artstyle looks great. It reminds me of DB or early DBZ.

Gyt Kaliba · Post by **Gyt Kaliba** » Mon Apr 29, 2013 2:05 pm

Okay, so it definitely wasn't him sensing the androids. Moving on then.

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