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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by DBZ Mick » Tue Jul 02, 2013 12:49 am

I think I've posted this before...(haha)...

But I'm kinda sick of the canon arguments. Especially reading some Youtube comments.. 'We want GT characters for Battle of Z', 'No, we don't need them because they're not canon'. Especially with dub fans or younger fans who have no clue a lot of the moments they probably like or the movies are technically not canon. But I say who cares as long as you're enjoying something. However if it's some key fact sure then we need the manga for example to clarify it.
It is in his character to be rude and a bit crass. He's a hick, with no formal education. That is Son Goku. That is who he is.

Superman in an orange Gi was the bastard son of FUNimation. Its not The real character, it is as false as Chatku.

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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by TheGmGoken » Tue Jul 02, 2013 12:58 am

DBZ Mick wrote:I think I've posted this before...(haha)...

But I'm kinda sick of the canon arguments. Especially reading some Youtube comments.. 'We want GT characters for Battle of Z', 'No, we don't need them because they're not canon'. Especially with dub fans or younger fans who have no clue a lot of the moments they probably like or the movies are technically not canon. But I say who cares as long as you're enjoying something. However if it's some key fact sure then we need the manga for example to clarify it.
I don't think hat's unpopular. I'll take 500 million youtube Dbz debates over Yotube Dbz fanbase claiming Akira stated this and that in interviews. When most of them are english fans which IMO are the most ignorant when on Youtube. I'll go out on a limb and say about 90% of them only saw the english dub.

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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by DBZ Mick » Tue Jul 02, 2013 1:02 am

I really hate how much 'fanon' has been integrated into the dub fanbase- the stuff like 'Toriyama wanted to finish the series with Freeza', 'Toriyama received death threats if he made Gohan the hero of the Boo arc'. There is so much of that, that they still readily accept as like gospel truth.
It is in his character to be rude and a bit crass. He's a hick, with no formal education. That is Son Goku. That is who he is.

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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by TheGmGoken » Tue Jul 02, 2013 1:56 am

DBZ Mick wrote:I really hate how much 'fanon' has been integrated into the dub fanbase- the stuff like 'Toriyama wanted to finish the series with Freeza', 'Toriyama received death threats if he made Gohan the hero of the Boo arc'. There is so much of that, that they still readily accept as like gospel truth.
Yea like why is the english dub(youtube-wise) so rude, ignorant , and make up facts. I bet they get 50% of their info from Dbz wiki. IMO what makes it worst is that they think they are correct. To them Akira confirmed that Freeza mother was a Kaioshin, English is the only accurate story, and what character is stronger than what.

On Topic: If you don't count the youtube fanbase. I think DB got a great fanbase. :thumbup: . I know that's unpopular.

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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by DBZ Mick » Tue Jul 02, 2013 2:54 am

Don't get me started on the wiki, haha.
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It is in his character to be rude and a bit crass. He's a hick, with no formal education. That is Son Goku. That is who he is.

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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Ringworm128 » Fri Jul 05, 2013 2:45 am

I actually don't mind the added dialogue for the SSJ2 Gohan transformation scene in the Funi dub.

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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Dalesy » Sat Jul 06, 2013 12:48 am

I feel that Brian Drummond's voice doesn't suit the character of Vegeta at all.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Ringworm128 » Sat Jul 06, 2013 6:40 am

Linda Young is now tie with Chris Ayers for my favorite English Freeza.

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Post by TheGmGoken » Sat Jul 06, 2013 6:47 am

ringworm128 wrote:Linda Young is now tie with Chris Ayers for my favorite English Freeza.
You didn't have many options :| .

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Post by TheMightyOzaru » Sat Jul 06, 2013 11:05 am

ringworm128 wrote:Linda Young is now tie with Chris Ayers for my favorite English Freeza.
I'm sorry I know this is an unpopular opinions thread but how and why :eh: ?
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Ringworm128 » Sat Jul 06, 2013 10:22 pm

TheMightyOzaru wrote:
ringworm128 wrote:Linda Young is now tie with Chris Ayers for my favorite English Freeza.
I'm sorry I know this is an unpopular opinions thread but how and why :eh: ?
Linda Young gives Freeza a wicked snare that fits with the ruthless tyrant she also brings out his cocky side. She also has a "I'm just toying with you" vibe when she speaks and she sometimes gives Freeza a braty vibe that fits when Freeza eventually breaks down and is eventually shown to be some pathetic man child who calls his father "daddy". It's just a fun performance all round.

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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by ABED » Sat Jul 06, 2013 10:31 pm

She also makes him sound like a she, an old she at that. Add that to the constant sexual innuendo and awful jokes, and it's a recipe for disaster. I don't hear wicked, I hear an actor desperately trying to sound wicked.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by DBZ Mick » Sat Jul 06, 2013 10:32 pm

Her voice reminds me of Rita from Power Rangers.
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Post by ABED » Sat Jul 06, 2013 10:35 pm

DBZ Mick wrote:Her voice reminds me of Rita from Power Rangers.
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So true.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Ringworm128 » Sat Jul 06, 2013 10:37 pm

You should hear Freeza's Blue Water actor. And Linda Young making Freeza sound like a female never really bothered me since IMO a semi masculin female voice works just as well as the semi feminine voice Ayers uses for an androgyness character like Freeza and the rasp works for a lizard like character such as Freeza. And I find it pretty easy to look past the fact it's a womans voice just like I can look past the fact Goku is voiced by a woman.

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Post by ABED » Sat Jul 06, 2013 10:52 pm

Nozawa brings out Goku's youthful purity. Freeza may be androgynous, but he's clearly a he and among his defining characteristics is his polite, erudite nature, neither of which is present in Linda Young's portrayal. It's not present in the writing either.

Young doesn't have a semi-masculine voice at all. It's clearly an older lady.
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Re: Unpopular DB opinions

Post by Ringworm128 » Sat Jul 06, 2013 10:58 pm

People always bring up "Young doesn't polite" when debating Freeza voices but they forget that being a faux gentleman wasn't the only character trait Freeza had. Linda Young does a good job of bringing out Freeza's other traits and she makes the role her own without worrying about copying the other roles.

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Post by ABED » Sat Jul 06, 2013 11:01 pm

ringworm128 wrote:People always bring up "Young doesn't polite" when debating Freeza voices but they forget that being a faux gentleman wasn't the only character trait Freeza had. Linda Young does a good job of bringing out Freeza's other traits and she makes the role her own without worrying about copying the other roles.
No, it wasn't the only but it was prominent. He only sheds the facade when he gets pissed.

Are you talking about the traits that FUNi gave Freeza? This isn't about copying other roles and making it her own. There is only one characterization and he was written wrong until Kai.
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Post by Gyt Kaliba » Sat Jul 06, 2013 11:03 pm

I'd have to agree - to an extent, at least. Linda Young may not be the best choice for the role, and is certainly not my preferred voice for the character anymore - but what dialogue she had that wasn't a bad joke or innuendo, was at least done with a good villain-ish vibe.

That said though, the bad jokes/innuendo bothered me even when I was a much younger fan, and still does, much more so than anything else about the old take on the character.
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Post by ABED » Sat Jul 06, 2013 11:12 pm

I prefer my villains to be a little less mustache twirly. Freeza's polite and posh demeanor was a nice contrast to his vile nature.
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