"Dragon Ball Super (Manga)" Official Discussion Thread

Discussion specifically regarding the "Dragon Ball Super" TV series premiering July 2015 in Japan, including individual threads for each episode.
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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by dbgtFO » Wed Nov 18, 2015 1:24 am

alakazam^ wrote:Is transcribing text/dialog also legally touchy?
Should be in regards to books.

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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by Chuquita » Wed Nov 18, 2015 2:31 am

It's like when you have to cite your sources in school reports, or in journalism in general. You need to get permission from your sources to use them.

As far as spoilers, I'm almost certain it's going to be today. Photos of pieces of pages on Yugioh in this month's VJump just popped up on twitter.
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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by Blade » Wed Nov 18, 2015 2:40 am

Quite right - when referencing and citing something, the word-for-word reproduction of a small passage of text is permissible when quoted within the scope of another body of work and not re-sold or outright passed off as your own.

The copying of whole sections, however, is a no-no - and the scanning and distribution of published material is out of the question.
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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by Chuquita » Wed Nov 18, 2015 2:50 am

And we have a magazine cover:
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Source: http://www.ensoku.club/contents/article?id=1708
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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by Bullza » Wed Nov 18, 2015 3:17 am

You know I'm kinda surprised that this whole time I haven't seen anyone on here or elsewhere complain about this ripping off Dragon Ball Multiverse.

I'm not saying thay it did but considering all the complaints about "Toriyama running out of ideas" leading to reusing Frieza, palette swaps for new forms and then a fat Beerus I thought for sure I'd see people complaining about this Universe 6 tournament being some kind of ripoff of that DBM manga.

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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by Chuquita » Wed Nov 18, 2015 3:37 am

I stopped reading DBM a long time ago (I lost interest. ^^; ) Super's at least differentiating itself by (what I recall about DBM) there being only one "mirror" universe, and by there not even being any humans left on Uni 6 Earth. It'll throw things even farther off of DBM's trail if everyone on Team Champa are just brand-new from-scratch characters rather than any of them being the mirror to a current DB cast member. (Though I guess by doing that it'd also be kind of "What's the point in picking the one mirror universe and then not letting the readers see any counterparts? Why not just pick any of the other 10 universes that aren't mirrors to Uni 7 then?).
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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by dbgtFO » Wed Nov 18, 2015 3:38 am

Bullza wrote:You know I'm kinda surprised that this whole time I haven't seen anyone on here or elsewhere complain about this ripping off Dragon Ball Multiverse.

I'm not saying thay it did but considering all the complaints about "Toriyama running out of ideas" leading to reusing Freeza, palette swaps for new forms and then a fat Beerus I thought for sure I'd see people complaining about this Universe 6 tournament being some kind of ripoff of that DBM manga.
I didn't complain, but I did point out it...27 pages back(the speed of which this thread grows is crazy).

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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by sintzu » Wed Nov 18, 2015 6:48 am

Here's the text if anyone's interested :
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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by saunasolmu » Wed Nov 18, 2015 7:20 am

So... from what it seems, Vegeta suggests to use Gohan because he has the highest potential and Goku basically offs him and says that Gohan is useless :clap: :lol:

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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by SansrivaaL » Wed Nov 18, 2015 7:27 am

saunasolmu wrote:So... from what it seems, Vegeta suggests to use Gohan because he has the highest potential and Goku basically offs him and says that Gohan is useless :clap: :lol:
wait what? :lol: :lol: seriously?

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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by saunasolmu » Wed Nov 18, 2015 7:30 am

SansrivaaL wrote:
saunasolmu wrote:So... from what it seems, Vegeta suggests to use Gohan because he has the highest potential and Goku basically offs him and says that Gohan is useless :clap: :lol:
wait what? :lol: :lol: seriously?
If Google translate is anything to go by.
Vegeta "Gohan is? To clearly say potential is the highest is probably him."
Goku "useless it ~ guy I was Chima~tsu Shitsukushi in Bakka study until uniforms!"

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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by sintzu » Wed Nov 18, 2015 7:32 am

saunasolmu wrote:So... from what it seems, Vegeta suggests to use Gohan because he has the highest potential and Goku basically offs him and says that Gohan is useless :clap: :lol:
Did Goku forget about the Cell games ?
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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by dbgtFO » Wed Nov 18, 2015 7:33 am

Lol, so in that case Vegeta takes on the role of annoyed Gohan-fan, who argues that Gohan could be used, because he's always shown to have the highest potential, but then Goku(Toriyama's mouth piece) shoots us down for one final time.
I still wonder who they are going to pick and maybe they'll pick Gohan after all, because let's face it, what are the alternatives?
Surely this must mean the return of Piccolo, as he is one of Toriyama's favourites??
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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by Birusu16 » Wed Nov 18, 2015 7:34 am

So the Universe 7 team is Beerus, Whis, Goku, and Vegeta. They still need one more fighter. Vegeta suggests Gohan, but Goku essentially says hell no since he's not a fighter anymore. :lol:

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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by sintzu » Wed Nov 18, 2015 7:37 am

Birusu16 wrote:So the Universe 7 team is Beerus, Whis, Goku, and Vegeta. They still need one more fighter. Vegeta suggests Gohan, but Goku essentially says hell no since he's not a fighter anymore. :lol:
Beerus&Whis can't be a part of the team so as of now we only have 2 fighters.
dbgtFO wrote:Lol, so in that case Vegeta takes on the role of annoyed Gohan-fan, who argues that Gohan could be used, because he's always shown to have the highest potential, but then Goku(Toriyama's mouth piece) shoots us down for one final time.
It's such a shame to see the story's original author treat his characters like this especially someone like Gohan who was very important in Z.
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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by Birusu16 » Wed Nov 18, 2015 7:40 am

sintzu wrote:
Birusu16 wrote:So the Universe 7 team is Beerus, Whis, Goku, and Vegeta. They still need one more fighter. Vegeta suggests Gohan, but Goku essentially says hell no since he's not a fighter anymore. :lol:
Beerus&Whis can't be a part of the team so as of now we only have 2 fighters.
They are part of the team.

Flashback of Champa and Beerus
Champa is mad at Beerus for eating Champa's birthday cake ( or at least the top of it .)
Beerus thought it was for his bithday since they were born the same day.
Champa is mad pissed and attacks Beerus. A few planets explodes.
Vados and Whis laugh at their childish masters.
Champa says Planet Suits from universe 6 makes the best desserts and cakes.
Beerus says it's universe 7.
Whis and Vados knocks both of them KO.
Whis gives the idea of a tournament about food.

Return in the present.

Champa shows 6 dragon balls from U6.
He says he'll call Shenron to switch the earth from U7 to U6 if he wins the tournament.
Goku notices the dragon balls whichs surprises Vados and Champa.
Beerus explains thoses also exists in U7
Goku says it's a namekian who created them on Earth.

Champa says "As expected. A long time ago it was just one huge wish ball that was split into 7. And there is a limit to the wishes.
However, once you assemble the 7 Dragon Balls into one, the scale is different. One is a big as a planet. A Wish Star, if you want. That's how big it is.
And there are no limits, they grant ANY wish. They are called "Super Dragon Balls".

Beerus mocks Champa, he still needs another Dragon Ball to create a Super DB.
Goku says "Pretty please, I wanna fight in the tourney ... "
Beerus recruits Whis, Goku and Vegeta for the tourney. They still lack one fighter. ( Beerus is part of the team of course. )
Vegeta asks to recruit Gohan because as he says:"As far as latent potential goes, Gohan is N°1."
Goku refuses to take Gohan because he spends his time working and studying. Goku reveals Gohan lost his fighting outfit too.
Bulma created a new Dragon Radar for the Super DB.

Translation by Yagami from NF.

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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by sintzu » Wed Nov 18, 2015 7:44 am

Birusu16 wrote:Champa says "A long time ago it was just one huge wish ball that was split into 7.
Didn't Master Roshi say this about earth's balls in a filler episode ?
Birusu16 wrote: Beerus recruits Whis, Goku and Vegeta for the tourney. They still lack one fighter. ( Beerus is part of the team of course. )
This goes against what was said in Chapter 5 :

"We will choose humans to fight for us from our own Earths.” “…yeah, how about a 5 man group battle?”
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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by Xeogran » Wed Nov 18, 2015 7:52 am

Is it finally the time we will see 100% Beerus and 100% FREAKING WHIS?! :o

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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by Jaetinh » Wed Nov 18, 2015 7:52 am

Whis and Beerus participating in the tournament as fighters is a let down for me. I'd prefer them just to be on the sidelines as teachers and then give 3 other Z-Fighters the opportunity to be useful. So now we're back to Goku + Vegeta going to U6 with one more fighter that probably isn't even going to be Gohan. At least let it be Piccolo then, he deserves it. Don't bring along the annoying kids.

Since Whis and Beerus are joining, Champa and Vados will join too which means we also only get 3 new U6 fighters introduced instead of 5.

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Re: Super's manga by Toyotarō

Post by dbgtFO » Wed Nov 18, 2015 7:54 am

sintzu wrote:
Birusu16 wrote:Champa says "A long time ago it was just one huge wish ball that was split into 7.
Didn't Master Roshi say this about earth's balls in a filler episode ?
Indeed he did, funny how that turned out :lol:

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