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Post by Pickle_Jar » Tue Jan 31, 2017 4:43 pm

I'm guessing this is a case of "Toriyama forgot" but...

I swear I heard it said in DBZ that Nameks don't eat, they just drink water. That kinda contradicted itty bitty kid!Piccolo eating a fish in Dragon Ball. For the record, I saw DB after DBZ. I puzzled over it and then decided kid!Piccolo was doing what little kids do-- put stuff in his mouth to figure it out. :think:

Then this happens in Super.

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I guess Dende meant Nameks don't have to eat to survive, but they can eat if they want to because something tastes good.

Now I want to see Piccolo try a ghost pepper. Those things murder your tongue. :lol:
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Post by Khin » Tue Jan 31, 2017 5:43 pm

Pickle_Jar wrote:I guess Dende meant Nameks don't have to eat to survive, but they can eat if they want to because something tastes good.
Most likely, yeah. Dende probably just meant that Namekians don’t need to eat food to survive, as water is enough to give them sufficient amount of nutrients needed. He said that Namekians “don’t eat things like these, and are fine with just water”. It leaves the idea that the Namekians can eat, but don’t to, quite possible. We humans don’t need candies and chocolates either, but that doesn’t mean we can’t put these things in our mouth and eat it.

Dende’s statement seems to imply that he and the Namekians on Namek don’t eat (at least not regularly), maybe they just feel it’s worthless to, much like how some people don’t like to smoke or eat unhealthy foods. Since Namekians are fine with just water, eating stuff is their equivalent of us eating things like candies.

In the son of Katatz’ case, he grew up on Earth, not knowing that he’s an alien due to losing his memories, he probably don’t know that his needs is different compared to that of the earthlings, so after observing people around him and finding out that they eat stuff, he did the same thing. After some time, he would get used to that habit, and would feel the urge to eat something in the same way people who smoke feel the urge to continue smoking (even if we humans don’t need tobacco to survive), which is why we saw Piccolo Daimao, his children, and Piccolo eat something.
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Post by Anime Kitten » Tue Jan 31, 2017 5:43 pm

TheUltimateNinja wrote:[spoiler]Compared to the rest that's wrong with that fight, Hit being weak is the least of its problems. Anyway, I'll list 3 facts about the fight and let you deduce the issue:
1) Hit's timeskip only works on people near or below his level.

2) Hit's timeskip works perfectly on 10% SSBlue Vegeta and he gets completely thrashed.

3) SSJ Goku is stated to be stronger than Hit.[/spoiler]
Huh. Well, there's always the ever-(un)reliable two-Base theory!
Pickle_Jar wrote:I swear I heard it said in DBZ that Nameks don't eat, they just drink water.
Yeah, Dende wouldn't eat the food provided by Bulma(?) because Namekians supposedly don't eat. Unless there's something I can't remember or that's hidden by FUNimation, Super just retconned it. My headcanon would be that Piccolo just eats Earth food because he's been there long enough to be accustomed to it.
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Re: Non-thread-worthy discussions

Post by Gog » Tue Jan 31, 2017 5:52 pm

Pickle_Jar wrote:I'm guessing this is a case of "Toriyama forgot" but...

I swear I heard it said in DBZ that Nameks don't eat, they just drink water. That kinda contradicted itty bitty kid!Piccolo eating a fish in Dragon Ball. For the record, I saw DB after DBZ. I puzzled over it and then decided kid!Piccolo was doing what little kids do-- put stuff in his mouth to figure it out. :think:

Then this happens in Super.

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I guess Dende meant Nameks don't have to eat to survive, but they can eat if they want to because something tastes good.

Now I want to see Piccolo try a ghost pepper. Those things murder your tongue. :lol:
yeah, wasn't this already common knowledge? I mean wasn't it obvious?

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Re: Non-thread-worthy discussions

Post by Pickle_Jar » Tue Jan 31, 2017 7:17 pm

^ Well, I only saw Piccolo eat once in DB, and I never saw him eat in DBZ except for Senzu beans. Then he acted all grossed out by the Saiyajin eating habits at the World Martial Arts Tournament in the early Buu saga. THEN we see him holding a plate and chopsticks in Super.

I guess ChiChi is a good cook if the guy who never eats wants to eat it. :D
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Post by Jinzoningen MULE » Wed Feb 01, 2017 3:04 am

I recently noticed some moisture damage in my copy of the manga, and am trying to determine whether or not it warrants a replacement. There are a few pages I have my eye on, but the one with the most damage is the last page of DB Chapter 2, but I'd like to have a reference point before paying for a whole volume again, y'know? To that end, I was wondering if someone could snap a quick photo of that page, preferably from the Vizbig Edition, but any version will do, really.

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Post by dbgtFO » Wed Feb 01, 2017 3:14 am

dbgtFO wrote:"Dende" is apparently slang for dick.
I honestly wonder why and whether or not it became slang before or after DBZ came to the US.
Nobody knows?

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Post by RandomGuy96 » Wed Feb 01, 2017 3:47 am

dbgtFO wrote:
dbgtFO wrote:"Dende" is apparently slang for dick.
I honestly wonder why and whether or not it became slang before or after DBZ came to the US.
Nobody knows?
I've literally never heard that slang, and couldn't find anything backing it up on the Internet outside of Urban Dictionary, which is a cesspool of shitposting.
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He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.
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Post by SHINOBI-03 » Wed Feb 01, 2017 12:50 pm

People complain about DB Super ruining some characters, I say it helped making one certain character I didn't really care for become one of my favorites, and that's 18/Lazuli.

For real, she has become my new favorite Dragon Ball character because the show wrote her so damn well and made her one of the most likable characters after not giving much of a damn about her in Z and GT. Before, she appeared as one greedy selfish woman and I didn't think her relationship with Kuririn was that believable, but seeing her in Super and how she joked with Trunks and her vastly improved relationship with Kuririn has changed my mind about her and I'm loving her now.
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Re: Non-thread-worthy discussions

Post by Pickle_Jar » Wed Feb 01, 2017 2:00 pm

Piccolo needs to take care of more babies. He's destroying me with cuteness in Super. :lol:

Both links go to youtube clips.

Seriously, this is killing me in the best way. I'd love to see how Scott McNeil dubs that. (Sorry, I'm not into Chris Sabat's Piccolo voice...it doesn't work for me.)

Watch for Piccolo's "oh shit!" face, it's hysterical. He's such a mama hen.

What makes that so much sweeter is NONE of that would be happening if Piccolo never took off with Gohan at the beginning of DBZ. He's had character development that is just as profound as Vegeta's.

Now I want to see Piccolo use one of Pan's nasty poo diapers as a weapon in a fight JUST FOR LULZ.
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Post by Gog » Wed Feb 01, 2017 3:55 pm

Pickle_Jar wrote:Piccolo needs to take care of more babies. He's destroying me with cuteness in Super. :lol:

Both links go to youtube clips.

Seriously, this is killing me in the best way. I'd love to see how Scott McNeil dubs that. (Sorry, I'm not into Chris Sabat's Piccolo voice...it doesn't work for me.)

Watch for Piccolo's "oh shit!" face, it's hysterical. He's such a mama hen.

What makes that so much sweeter is NONE of that would be happening if Piccolo never took off with Gohan at the beginning of DBZ. He's had character development that is just as profound as Vegeta's.

Now I want to see Piccolo use one of Pan's nasty poo diapers as a weapon in a fight JUST FOR LULZ.
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Post by Noah » Wed Feb 01, 2017 4:30 pm

AlexJunin wrote:The brazilian VA of Goku, Wendel Bezerra, uploaded a video in your YouTube channel dubbing Black, he made 6 versions of the voice (notice that the voice 5 was a joke because he dubs Spongebob in Brazil), which voice do you guys like most?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJ5cxbcL9Ao
Voice 2 and 4 were the best IMO
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Post by LightBing » Wed Feb 01, 2017 5:44 pm

Future Bulma is the one of the most impactfull characters in the series and the least recognized of them, by far!

Honestly, Bulma overall doesn't get enough credit for all she did in the series.

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Post by huzaifa_ahmed » Wed Feb 01, 2017 7:29 pm

The Ocean dub of Gintama finally went through. Michael Daingerfield Hall (most commonly known as David Kaye's replacement, but he's a great actor) is Gintoki, Jocelyn Loewen (Gretel from Black Lagoon) is Kagura, Shinpachi is Michael Adamwaithe (Raye Penber from Death Note, Colossus from X-Men Evolution), Andrew Francis (Iceman in Evolution, Megaman.EXE) is Sakamoto. *cries from joy*. (I kind of wanted Trevor Devall as Gintoki, but still overjoyed)

I know this is all only tangentially related, but...I kind of thought this'd end up a bit like Ocean Kai. Relatively expensive, high-profile union dub that gets trashed in favor of other, cheaper dub. They are different situations, yes, but still it's nice to see these actors in a non-young-children's cartoon. Havent even heard it yet (I only read the comics & never watched the show) but it's pretty cool.

Tying back to DB...some years ago, Trevor Devall mentioned voicing someone in DBKai, never mentioned the character's name though. I'll tweet him actually. He is quite responsive & a nice dude.
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Post by 8000 Saiyan » Wed Feb 01, 2017 7:35 pm

huzaifa_ahmed wrote:The Ocean dub of Gintama finally went through. Michael Daingerfield Hall (most commonly known as David Kaye's replacement, but he's a great actor) is Gintoki, Jocelyn Loewen (Gretel from Black Lagoon) is Kagura, Shinpachi is Michael Adamwaithe (Raye Penber from Death Note, Colossus from X-Men Evolution), Andrew Francis (Iceman in Evolution, Megaman.EXE) is Sakamoto. *cries from joy*. (I kind of thought Trevor Devall would be Gintoki, but still overjoyed)
I'm disappointed with that cast. I wanted Adamthwaite for Gintoki. :(
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Post by huzaifa_ahmed » Wed Feb 01, 2017 8:03 pm

8000 Saiyan wrote:I'm disappointed with that cast. I wanted Adamthwaite for Gintoki. :(
He's in the cast anyway, so it's not like they couldnt afford him & definitely not as if their was no consideration of him (you audition for everything, & Adamwaithe & Hall are in a similar vocal range too).

Anyway, it blows my mind that this thing even exists in any official capacity. So much so that I'd even have watched a Saban/4Kids-style dub, out of sheer curiosity. Could easily have been vaporware/trashed once FUNiRoll happened, never to be spoken of again, which I was silently expecting, actually. I mightve been first to predict Laura Bailey's exit from DB awhile back, too.

I'm so happy I was wrong here.

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Post by 8000 Saiyan » Wed Feb 01, 2017 8:08 pm

huzaifa_ahmed wrote:
8000 Saiyan wrote:I'm disappointed with that cast. I wanted Adamthwaite for Gintoki. :(
He's in the cast anyway, so it's not like they couldnt afford him & definitely not as if their was no consideration of him (you audition for everything, & Adamwaithe & Hall are in a similar vocal range too).

Anyway, it blows my mind that this thing even exists in any official capacity. So much so that I'd even have watched a Saban/4Kids-style dub, out of sheer curiosity. Could easily have been vaporware/trashed once FUNiRoll happened, never to be spoken of again, which I was silently expecting, actually. I mightve been first to predict Laura Bailey's exit from DB awhile back, too.

I'm so happy I was wrong here.
All we have to do now is to hope that they do a great job and never sound awkward.
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Post by huzaifa_ahmed » Wed Feb 01, 2017 8:21 pm

8000 Saiyan wrote:
huzaifa_ahmed wrote:
8000 Saiyan wrote:I'm disappointed with that cast. I wanted Adamthwaite for Gintoki. :(
All we have to do now is to hope that they do a great job and never sound awkward.
This thing needs good scripting, in the vein of Devil is a Part Timer, Bobobobo, or Steins Gate (never seen these, but i hear them used as examples of this kind of show). It really has to adapt that humor. ADR writing is hard enough, practically like animating but way cheaper...writing good jokes on top of the sync is even harder. Ideally ofc everything'd be reanimated, but this is..not a hard sell per se, just needs good comedic writers & then promotion especially.

Keep in mind this thing is pretty expensive for a recent anime dub.

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Post by MyNiggaGoku » Thu Feb 02, 2017 6:25 am

LightBing wrote:Future Bulma is the one of the most impactfull characters in the series and the least recognized of them, by far!

Honestly, Bulma overall doesn't get enough credit for all she did in the series.
Totally agree with you.In a plethora of superhuman fighters,she stands out for her brilliant mind.Truly a staple in DB.
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Post by ekrolo2 » Thu Feb 02, 2017 8:33 am

Someone should remake the T2 opening using the Black arc footage.
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