Dragon Ball Super: TV Ratings Discussion Thread

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Re: Dragon Ball Super: TV Ratings Discussion Thread

Post by Bullza » Thu Jul 07, 2016 10:35 am

Well the average for the first 4 episodes of each saga look like this

Beerus arc - 6.7%
Frieza arc - 5.9%
Champa arc - 6.2%
Black arc - 7.1%

So it's easily doing the best so far and I expect the gap between it and the Beerus arc to grow. The latest 4 episodes have had the best consecutive ratings of any other 4 back to back episodes thus far.

I'd also say they were the best 4 consecutive episodes as well.

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Post by HeroR » Thu Jul 07, 2016 11:25 am

Bullza wrote:Well the average for the first 4 episodes of each saga look like this

Beerus arc - 6.7%
Frieza arc - 5.9%
Champa arc - 6.2%
Black arc - 7.1%

So it's easily doing the best so far and I expect the gap between it and the Beerus arc to grow. The latest 4 episodes have had the best consecutive ratings of any other 4 back to back episodes thus far.

I'd also say they were the best 4 consecutive episodes as well.
There are differences. The first two arcs were retellings and Resurrection 'F' Saga started with in-between stuff with Freeza not being revival until the fifth episode. Champa Saga had its beginning spoiled by the manga, so people knew what to expect or less. Future Trunks Saga, we have no clue what was happening and we still don't to some extent. It also has a mystery angle about who or what Black Goku is and what are his motives. So, it may not be the tone itself that is making people watch, but more, 'what is happening here?', especially with each episode ending on a cliffhanger.

So, I think it's too simple to say that Future Trunks Saga has higher ratings so far because of its darker tone. It's a combination of several things. It also can be the time of the year since One Piece is getting some of its higher ratings too and nothing special is really happening at the moment.
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precita wrote:Goku will still be around but take a Buu saga approach backseat.
Goku barely took a backseat in the Buu saga, at best he took a leisurely stroll round back while everyone else cried for him to come back.

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Post by Bullza » Thu Jul 07, 2016 11:46 am

Oh it definitely wouldn't be just because it was dark, I'd say it was a number of reasons

- Trunks returned to the series and he was always very popular

- Black Goku and the mystery behind him

- The manga hasn't already spoiled it

- It's been pretty good since the arc started

There hasn't been a villain since Cell that raises as many questions or is as mysterious as what Black is. The series is general is not usually like that so people wondering whose controlling Black Goku and why and how is probably keeping people tuning in every week.

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Post by HeroR » Thu Jul 07, 2016 12:29 pm

Bullza wrote:Oh it definitely wouldn't be just because it was dark, I'd say it was a number of reasons

- Trunks returned to the series and he was always very popular

- Black Goku and the mystery behind him

- The manga hasn't already spoiled it

- It's been pretty good since the arc started

There hasn't been a villain since Cell that raises as many questions or is as mysterious as what Black is. The series is general is not usually like that so people wondering whose controlling Black Goku and why and how is probably keeping people tuning in every week.
I agree with this. The whole thing with Black has left the entire community guessing. And if the recent episode spoilers are anything to go by, we may not learn who/what Black is in Episode 53 like we thought. Instead, it opens more questions.
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precita wrote:Goku will still be around but take a Buu saga approach backseat.
Goku barely took a backseat in the Buu saga, at best he took a leisurely stroll round back while everyone else cried for him to come back.

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Post by Konig » Tue Jul 12, 2016 8:42 pm

http://www.videor.co.jp/data/ratedata/top10.htm
Live Ratings: July 4 to July 10:

1. Sazae [11.1]
2. Crayon Shin-chan [10.0]
3. Doraemon [8.6]
4. One Piece [8.5]
5. Chibi Maruko-chan [7.8]
6. Dragon Ball Super [7.3]
7. Detective Conan [7.2]
8. Ace Attorney [4.3]
9. Sofia the First [3.3]
10-11. Yokai Watch [3.2]
10-11. Maho Precure! [3.2]

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Post by Sodhi » Tue Jul 12, 2016 8:46 pm

Wow another good week. Looks like not matter how high conan gets, we beat it.

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Post by SuperGohan » Tue Jul 12, 2016 8:55 pm

In 5 episodes, 3 times above 7% , this great , but I expect even more from growing.

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Post by Alee9977 » Tue Jul 12, 2016 9:29 pm

Great, japanese people are interested in Black and Future Trunks.
I don't know how much money Toei earns in a week having 3 of their series on the top 10.

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Post by Sodhi » Tue Jul 12, 2016 10:39 pm

Alee9977 wrote:I don't know how much money Toei earns in a week having 3 of their series on the top 10.
Not much. All this means is that a lot of people are viewing the show and a lot of people will probably buy the merchandise.

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Post by precita » Wed Jul 13, 2016 12:38 am

Amazes me shows like Pokemon never make these charts anymore. Then there's stuff like Naruto still going on and ratings wise its dead.

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Post by Bullza » Wed Jul 13, 2016 9:22 am

Looks like the ratings have increased again over the past weeks.

What was Episode 49's DVR ratings?

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Post by Konig » Wed Jul 13, 2016 1:22 pm

Bullza wrote:Looks like the ratings have increased again over the past weeks.

What was Episode 49's DVR ratings?
They haven't released those ratings yet (or they have hidden them somewhere, since I couldn't find them anywhere in the website, and the latest "post" in the original link refers to June 13-19 (Ep. 48): http://www.tvguide.or.jp/ranking/timerrecording_td). That's very odd, since they have already released the video recording viewing ratings.

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Post by Bigivel » Wed Jul 13, 2016 4:01 pm

Konig wrote:
Bullza wrote:Looks like the ratings have increased again over the past weeks.

What was Episode 49's DVR ratings?
They haven't released those ratings yet (or they have hidden them somewhere, since I couldn't find them anywhere in the website, and the latest "post" in the original link refers to June 13-19 (Ep. 48): http://www.tvguide.or.jp/ranking/timerrecording_td). That's very odd, since they have already released the video recording viewing ratings.
Yep, right now they are only showing the viewing ratings! :(

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Post by Lord Beerus » Wed Jul 13, 2016 4:42 pm

Man, the ratings are on the up and up. Keep it up Super. :clap:

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Post by Psykomatik » Wed Jul 13, 2016 4:42 pm

http://www.tvguide.or.jp/ranking/timesh ... index.html
Here is the DVR Rating for #49

Seventh with 46.0...

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Post by Konig » Thu Jul 14, 2016 12:08 am

Psykomatik wrote:http://www.tvguide.or.jp/ranking/timesh ... index.html
Here is the DVR Rating for #49

Seventh with 46.0...
These are the record viewing ratings, whereas the ratings usually posted here refer to record reservation. No sign of them, so far...

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Post by Psykomatik » Thu Jul 14, 2016 12:19 am

http://www.tvguide.or.jp/ranking/timesh ... index.html
These are the record viewing ratings, isn't it?

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Post by Konig » Thu Jul 14, 2016 1:09 am

Psykomatik wrote:http://www.tvguide.or.jp/ranking/timesh ... index.html
These are the record viewing ratings, isn't it?
Both are record viewing ratings. The first link refers to record viewing ratings for terrestrial television channels, while the second one refers to BS (satellite) channels.

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Post by Xeztin » Thu Jul 14, 2016 1:09 pm

In my opinion, tournament arcs aren't exciting as new villains. Don't get me wrong I enjoyed the Champa arc a lot, probably more than I should have but it just doesn't have the same mystery as a mysterious villain, Future Trunks returning, and a new Kai. The only thing the Champa arc had going for it was the curiosity of what kind of characters would be fighting as far as hype goes. I think almost everyone knew U7 would win, or that if they lost it wouldn't be too much of a deal. In my opinion, that might have been an effect on ratings in Japan but no one can really say for sure. The Champa arc wasn't marketed as heavily either.

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Re: Dragon Ball Super: TV Ratings Discussion Thread

Post by Bigivel » Fri Jul 15, 2016 3:13 am

Sodhi wrote:
Alee9977 wrote:I don't know how much money Toei earns in a week having 3 of their series on the top 10.
Not much. All this means is that a lot of people are viewing the show and a lot of people will probably buy the merchandise.
It depends of the deal done with Fuji TV(that is also a producer of One Piece) and the advertisement companies that place adds around that timeslot. Or they have a fixed value that increases and decreases given an average of a given period of time(like 1 year, each semester or trimester), or it is dynamic and is a percentage of the ratings.

In the end the value that Toei Animation earned for TV last year(2015, 1 April to 2016, 31 March) was 3,073 Million Yen(Around 30,730,000 dollars) with 8 distributed series so an average of 384 Million Yen(Around 3,840,000 dollars) per series. And assuming every series got 50 episodes that year(they didn't!) than around 7.68 Million Yen(76,800 dollars) per episode.
It is said that each episodes cost around 100,000 and 300,000 dollars. If we assume that each producer pays half the cost of production(NOTE: Almost all Toei Animation TV series aren't in a Production Committee system, but in a partnership system, normally with the TV Channel), than we have that it costed to them around 50,000 to 150,000 dollars.

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