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Post by Gog » Thu Feb 02, 2017 7:39 pm

LightBing wrote:Future Bulma is the one of the most impactfull characters in the series and the least recognized of them, by far!

Honestly, Bulma overall doesn't get enough credit for all she did in the series.
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Post by Noah » Thu Feb 02, 2017 8:45 pm

LightBing wrote:Future Bulma is the one of the most impactfull characters in the series and the least recognized of them, by far!

Honestly, Bulma overall doesn't get enough credit for all she did in the series.
Interesting, care to elaborate that?
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Post by Soppa Saia People » Fri Feb 03, 2017 12:19 am

Noah wrote:
LightBing wrote:Future Bulma is the one of the most impactfull characters in the series and the least recognized of them, by far!

Honestly, Bulma overall doesn't get enough credit for all she did in the series.
Interesting, care to elaborate that?
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Post by ekrolo2 » Fri Feb 03, 2017 9:23 am

I wouldn't be surprised if Toriyama recolored Super Saiyan for F (firstly into white then into blue) just because he thought having two orange guys fighting one another would look boring.
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Post by Noah » Fri Feb 03, 2017 9:45 am

I think he thought that a movie without new transformations would it make less appealing to the audience.
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Post by Gog » Fri Feb 03, 2017 6:33 pm

Why are King Cold's and Coola's gem's blue? Is it because their older than Freeza?

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Post by ekrolo2 » Fri Feb 03, 2017 6:41 pm

Noah wrote:I think he thought that a movie without new transformations would it make less appealing to the audience.
But he gave a new one to Freeza, surely that counts enough?

Plus a lot of the older Z movies hinged less on new forms being introduced as they were about which new bad guy Goku's gonna fight now.
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Post by Noah » Fri Feb 03, 2017 8:44 pm

ekrolo2 wrote:But he gave a new one to Freeza, surely that counts enough?

Plus a lot of the older Z movies hinged less on new forms being introduced as they were about which new bad guy Goku's gonna fight now.
He probably gave a new form to Freeza was it would make more convincing that he indeed was way stronger than before (even though it's bad explained).
Older Z movies didn't have Toriyama touch (which is not bad to me), so counting on BoG and RoF, movies that introduced new forms, Toriyama probably think this way.
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Post by Gog » Sat Feb 04, 2017 2:37 am

Why does super saiyan look like it does?

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Post by Jinzoningen MULE » Sat Feb 04, 2017 2:40 am

Gog wrote:Why does super saiyan look like it does?
Super Saiyan is a metaphor for fire, and is designed after a candle. Also, there's a story about it being easier on Toriyama's assistant.
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Post by TheUltimateNinja » Sat Feb 04, 2017 2:58 am

Jinzoningen MULE wrote:
Gog wrote:Why does super saiyan look like it does?
Super Saiyan is a metaphor for fire, and is designed after a candle. Also, there's a story about it being easier on Toriyama's assistant.
Supposedly doing all black hair was quite tedious back in the day, having it white made things a lot more convenient.

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Post by Nejishiki » Sat Feb 04, 2017 4:28 am

Noah wrote:Older Z movies didn't have Toriyama touch (which is not bad to me), so counting on BoG and RoF, movies that introduced new forms, Toriyama probably think this way.
Super Saiyan God was present before Toriyama's rewrite. It just so happens he reworked its appearance. I find that there's no guarantee he'd develop Super Saiyan God from scratch like with Super Saiyan Blue's creation.

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Post by SHINOBI-03 » Sat Feb 04, 2017 11:34 am

I've been getting back on track and marathoning DBZ where I left off back at early Namek arc and today I finally finished the Freeza arc.

Now people complain about its length and pointless padding, but honestly, watching the episodes back to back didn't annoy that much with the except of a moment or two. The only reason the Goku vs Freeza battle were dragged that long was due to the stuff happening on the sidelines. But when it was just Goku vs Freeza, it flowed rather smoothly. The episodes themselves didn't feel that long to be honest.

Of course, this is not like the fans who went through this on a weekly basis so more power to you all.
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Post by Jinzoningen MULE » Sat Feb 04, 2017 7:40 pm

SHINOBI-03 wrote:I've been getting back on track and marathoning DBZ where I left off back at early Namek arc and today I finally finished the Freeza arc.

Now people complain about its length and pointless padding, but honestly, watching the episodes back to back didn't annoy that much with the except of a moment or two. The only reason the Goku vs Freeza battle were dragged that long was due to the stuff happening on the sidelines. But when it was just Goku vs Freeza, it flowed rather smoothly. The episodes themselves didn't feel that long to be honest.

Of course, this is not like the fans who went through this on a weekly basis so more power to you all.
I'm on a GT rewatch, and I'm having a similar experience. The pacing isn't half as bad as everyone remembers and the episodes do a fantastic job at world-building while providing an entertaining narrative. I'm hoping the Baby and 17 Arcs end up being better than I remember, too.
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Post by Gog » Sat Feb 04, 2017 9:58 pm

How does Kid Buu exist while evil Buu does?

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Post by Jinzoningen MULE » Sat Feb 04, 2017 10:00 pm

Gog wrote:How does Kid Buu exist while evil Buu does?
Pure Boo isn't the same thing as Evil Boo. One is a ruthless animal, one is a creature of pure rage. If you're asking how Super Boo - Fat Boo = Pure Boo, your guess is as good as mine.
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Post by Gog » Sat Feb 04, 2017 10:02 pm

Jinzoningen MULE wrote:
Gog wrote:How does Kid Buu exist while evil Buu does?
Pure Boo isn't the same thing as Evil Boo. One is a ruthless animal, one is a creature of pure rage. If you're asking how Super Boo - Fat Boo = Pure Boo, your guess is as good as mine.
It's especially baffling when you realize that technically evil Buu should be pure buu

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Post by kinisking » Sun Feb 05, 2017 9:07 am

I think Whis debating on whether he has enough time to eat lunch while Goku fights Beerus and hit closing his eyes were awesome ways to create hype for the opponent. I remember when Hit closed his eyes towards Vegeta going SSB. The hype was through the roof.
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Re: Non-thread-worthy discussions

Post by Gog » Sun Feb 05, 2017 3:20 pm

Nejishiki wrote:
Noah wrote:Older Z movies didn't have Toriyama touch (which is not bad to me), so counting on BoG and RoF, movies that introduced new forms, Toriyama probably think this way.
Super Saiyan God was present before Toriyama's rewrite. It just so happens he reworked its appearance. I find that there's no guarantee he'd develop Super Saiyan God from scratch like with Super Saiyan Blue's creation.
I actually really want to see the original designs of Super Saiyan God. Probably will never see it, but I really want to see it.

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Post by Noah » Sun Feb 05, 2017 3:22 pm

Gog wrote:I actually really want to see the original designs of Super Saiyan God. Probably will never see it, but I really want to see it.
Just imagine a buff blonde guy with a cape, something like that would be.
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