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Post by Rakurai » Wed Apr 03, 2019 8:24 am

Noitsnothim wrote: Wed Apr 03, 2019 3:44 am you mean Shisami? The one who fought Piccolo in RoF (Also once again thank you very much Rakurai for these translations) Love seeing the differences between all 3 continuities of SDBH (Video game, Manga, Anime) Please keep up the good work as I shall continue to wait for more and more!
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Saiga wrote: Wed Apr 03, 2019 7:08 am Thanks for providing these as always, Rakurai. Couple of questions - is there anything to the Cumber fight between UM4 and UM5? It seems we go from SSB Goku and Vegeta fighting SS1 Cumber, to Cumber revealing SS3... and then we have SSG Goku and Cooler vs SS1 Cumber. He doesn't use SS3 until the Xeno Saiyans arrive, so that seems really weird.

Also, wasn't Cumber meant to comment on SSG Goku having red hair?
Most likely Cumber went SSJ3 and then powered down later on, only to power up again when the Xeno duo arrived. In general, it's implied that things have happened in b/w UM releases, though they tend to be just minor stuff like traveling or searching or continuation of a battle (which would explain Goku powering down to SSG). But it's also possible they might've just backtracked the cutscene video at the end of UM4.

No recognition of red hair or anything. I don't think I missed any dialogue from the video I used but I'll look up other videos showing the same dialogue just in case.
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Post by Saiga » Wed Apr 03, 2019 7:03 pm

Okay, I thought that originated from the arcade - I know Cumber reacted to SSG Goku's red hair in the manga (it's why he broke his restraints) and I think he did in the anime as well when Goku went SSG.

I know the different mediums do things very differently but given that SSG is in all of them, I'd thought that Cumber recognizing it was meant to be common as well
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Post by Rakurai » Wed Apr 03, 2019 11:30 pm

Saiga wrote: Wed Apr 03, 2019 7:03 pm Okay, I thought that originated from the arcade - I know Cumber reacted to SSG Goku's red hair in the manga (it's why he broke his restraints) and I think he did in the anime as well when Goku went SSG.

I know the different mediums do things very differently but given that SSG is in all of them, I'd thought that Cumber recognizing it was meant to be common as well
Yeah that was a strange omission for me too. I checked other videos which include his battle dialogue as well but he never mentions getting triggered by the red hair. So that's an anime/manga exclusive reference. But I think it's not that necessary since his UM2 card references him as an ancient Saiyan anyway, which is why he would have that SSG association. And in the manga/anime, that's likely the hint they throw to allude to that fact. Ehh...
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Post by Gt91 » Thu Apr 04, 2019 8:26 am

First scans about the next manga chapter

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Post by Rinsankajugin » Thu Apr 04, 2019 9:24 am

Gt91 wrote: Thu Apr 04, 2019 8:26 am First scans about the next manga chapter

https://twitter.com/suisoukiraki
Hold up... it looks like there's 2 chapters of SDBH this time?? There's of course the Universal Conflict stuff (with a dash of Dyspo), but there's also Finn fighting GT Gogeta!

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Rinsankajugin wrote: Thu Apr 04, 2019 9:24 am Hold up... it looks like there's 2 chapters of SDBH this time?? There's of course the Universal Conflict stuff (with a dash of Dyspo), but there's also Finn fighting GT Gogeta!
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Post by Rinsankajugin » Thu Apr 04, 2019 11:02 am

VegettoEX wrote: Thu Apr 04, 2019 10:50 am
Rinsankajugin wrote: Thu Apr 04, 2019 9:24 am Hold up... it looks like there's 2 chapters of SDBH this time?? There's of course the Universal Conflict stuff (with a dash of Dyspo), but there's also Finn fighting GT Gogeta!
https://www.kanzenshuu.com/2019/03/18/m ... ion-manga/
Now that's a whollop, that mangaka really has a lot on his hands. Doesn't he do the Fusions and FighterZ manga too, or is that someone else?

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Post by VegettoEX » Thu Apr 04, 2019 11:11 am

Yoshitaka Nagayama handles the Super Dragon Ball Heroes-related manga (which is now "Universe Mission" as well as "Dark Demon Realm Mission" with its recent return in addition to the "Charisma Mission" shorts).

Naho Ooishi does Dragon Ball SD.

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Post by Dark_Tzitzimine » Thu Apr 04, 2019 12:13 pm

Ok, a bunch of interesting developments on those leaks.

- Cumber has his tail back, so now I'm 95% certain we'll be getting SSJ4 Cumber this year.
- Fin seems to have absorbed GT Gogeta while he was busy fighting Omega
- Seems we're getting a Gogeta Xeno vs Fin (Gogeta Absorbed) fight.

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Post by Dragotaker » Thu Apr 04, 2019 6:24 pm

Dark_Tzitzimine wrote: Thu Apr 04, 2019 12:13 pm Ok, a bunch of interesting developments on those leaks.

- Cumber has his tail back, so now I'm 95% certain we'll be getting SSJ4 Cumber this year.
- Fin seems to have absorbed GT Gogeta while he was busy fighting Omega
- Seems we're getting a Gogeta Xeno vs Fin (Gogeta Absorbed) fight.
SSJ4 is a given but since is a yearly thing for just one character i was hoping for Trunks myself but since Cumber introduction and how things are progressing i doubt it.

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Post by Bebi Hatchiyack » Thu Apr 04, 2019 6:26 pm

I've saw few pages of the Manga Super Dragon Ball Heroes is it me or does Demigra have a new henchmen/women ? :eh:
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Post by Noitsnothim » Fri Apr 05, 2019 4:21 am

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Prognosticating here but I believe this is CC Gogeta and I think he'll appear in the next Heroes episode to fight Oren & Kamen's fusion while Jiren fights Hearts

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Noitsnothim wrote: Fri Apr 05, 2019 4:21 am Image
Prognosticating here but I believe this is CC Gogeta and I think he'll appear in the next Heroes episode to fight Oren & Kamen's fusion while Jiren fights Hearts
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Post by Rakurai » Fri Apr 05, 2019 7:07 am

Noitsnothim wrote: Fri Apr 05, 2019 4:21 am
Prognosticating here but I believe this is CC Gogeta and I think he'll appear in the next Heroes episode to fight Oren & Kamen's fusion while Jiren fights Hearts
Pretty sure that's XGogeta, not CC Gogeta. First, CC Goku and Vegeta don't know how to fusion dance and in Super, learn it while fighting Broly (though admittedly they could always learn it during a UM). Second,

https://twitter.com/suisoukiraki/status ... 2155740160

The color scheme of the clothes fit. Also, he becomes SSJ4 so no way it's CC Gogeta.
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Post by Kenneth La Torre » Fri Apr 05, 2019 8:03 am

Rakurai wrote: Fri Apr 05, 2019 7:07 am
Noitsnothim wrote: Fri Apr 05, 2019 4:21 am
Prognosticating here but I believe this is CC Gogeta and I think he'll appear in the next Heroes episode to fight Oren & Kamen's fusion while Jiren fights Hearts
Pretty sure that's XGogeta, not CC Gogeta. First, CC Goku and Vegeta don't know how to fusion dance and in Super, learn it while fighting Broly (though admittedly they could always learn it during a UM). Second,

https://twitter.com/suisoukiraki/status ... 2155740160

The color scheme of the clothes fit. Also, he becomes SSJ4 so no way it's CC Gogeta.
The one that becomes ssj4 is GT Gogeta in this chapter. Tho the other is likely xeno gogeta

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Post by Rakurai » Fri Apr 05, 2019 8:19 am

Kenneth La Torre wrote: Fri Apr 05, 2019 8:03 am
The one that becomes ssj4 is GT Gogeta in this chapter. Tho the other is likely xeno gogeta
The preview of the chapter on the Saikyo Jump website shows the Time Patrol arriving to the GT-verse just as SSJ4 Gogeta is beating up Super Yi Xing Long. Furthermore, the color scheme for GT Gogeta is different, his pants are white and his sash is dark (in manga color). Xeno Gogeta's pants are black and his sash is lighter in color. The link I shared is that of XGogeta transforming to SSJ4.

From what I gather based on the preview and leaks. It's gonna be XG4 vs Dark Gogeta.
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Rakurai wrote: Fri Apr 05, 2019 7:07 amPretty sure that's XGogeta, not CC Gogeta. First, CC Goku and Vegeta don't know how to fusion dance and in Super, learn it while fighting Broly (though admittedly they could always learn it during a UM).
Goku definitely knows the fusion dance, as he is the one who brought the idea in the first place and taught Goten and Trunks. Also, the manga can ignore the movie and go with the manga instead, where Vegeta says he knows the poses as he saw everything from the Otherworld.

Xeno Gogeta has a shirt underneath the vest.

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Post by Rakurai » Fri Apr 05, 2019 9:13 am

Grimlock wrote: Fri Apr 05, 2019 9:04 am
Rakurai wrote: Fri Apr 05, 2019 7:07 amPretty sure that's XGogeta, not CC Gogeta. First, CC Goku and Vegeta don't know how to fusion dance and in Super, learn it while fighting Broly (though admittedly they could always learn it during a UM).
Goku definitely knows the fusion dance, as he is the one who brought the idea in the first place and taught Goten and Trunks. Also, the manga can ignore the movie and go with the manga instead, where Vegeta says he knows the poses as he saw everything from the Otherworld.

Xeno Gogeta has a shirt underneath the vest.
Sorry, I meant that Goku and Vegeta don't know how to Fusion Dance properly together. And yes even though Vegeta made it seem as if he knew in Z, that's been retconned with the latest film imo.

XGoku and XVegeta are wearing their new attire or perhaps nothing underneath their trenchcoats. It's more than possible that their fusion attire would change as a result (given their Metamoran clothes are Xeno unique to begin with).

Anyways that's definitely XGogeta. The color scheme gives it away, and again the link I shared shows a SSJ4 Gogeta powering up in XGogeta's clothes (second image has Gogeta's black hair in transition).

EDIT: Nvm XVegeta's still wearing his Saiyan armor underneath the trenchcoat, though can't say the same about XGoku. If XGoku is wearing something underneath his trenchcoat then chalk up XGogeta's lack of shirt up to inconsistency then.
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Post by shadowfox87 » Fri Apr 05, 2019 11:02 am

Was Demigra previously banished to the Demon Realm before he was sent to the Crack of Time / Time Chasm by Chronoa? I'm asking since it seems that Demigra has some history with Mechikabura. He resents him and was part of his army once, so he must have met him. In the flashbacks, we see Young Demigra fighting Chronoa with Gravy and Putine, but the latter were sent to the Demon Realm. Perhaps, Demigra used his magical prowess to escape the Demon Realm and attack Chronoa once again?

I can't seem to find any game dialogue to verify this.
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