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Post by Noitsnothim » Sat Apr 13, 2019 6:52 pm

The Way I see it XGoku & XVegeta have memories of both Z & GT Goku but it cuts off there they know nothing about God Ki nor Gods Of Destruction or the angels (I Think) I believe they will get God Ki quite soon after this saga because Beat even though he's a OC he went SSG & SSGSS so surely Goku and vegeta will too soon because I believe Goku Of Z/Super & Vegeta of Z/Super Will use their newer stuff "UI & Blue Evolution"

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Post by Rakurai » Sat Apr 13, 2019 10:19 pm

Somewhat random but I noticed while watching the latest CGI trailer for the Demon Gods arc again (from surfing through the SDBH YT channel :lol:).

https://youtu.be/_5-7PvCgtY4?t=81

When we see XGogeta at the end, he has the orange vest pads instead of yellow... as well as orange eyeliner instead of red. :crazy: Now I like the orange more than the yellow in general but c'mon Bandai are we at least not trying to maintain some consistency around here?
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Post by Melkaniator » Sun Apr 14, 2019 12:17 am

mahakaishin1991 wrote: Tue Mar 26, 2019 9:53 am
Melkaniator wrote: Tue Mar 26, 2019 8:28 am
mahakaishin1991 wrote: Mon Mar 18, 2019 5:22 pm
Cumber's design? what about it?
SS3 Goku color-swap with eyebrows, it's like he was from a "create your own character mode".
I massively disagree with this. Dude looks nothing like Goku.

You could claim any super saiyan 3 is a goku remodel since the hair is the least unique between users of the form.
It's SS3 Goku's hair, but black.

And no, that "claim" issue is not something I would do, since...

#1) SS3 is a Saiya-jin transformation, Cumber's is his base form.

#2) Even SS3 Trunks, and Gohan (the one that should be the exact copy) don't look like exactly like Goku, unlike Cumber.
Steven Bloodriver wrote: Tue Mar 26, 2019 1:24 pm Son Goku bears almost no resemblance to the likes of Kanba.
Yeah, I mean... He has eyebrows, lol, totally different.
Steven Bloodriver wrote: Tue Mar 26, 2019 1:24 pm While, Raditz from Dragon Ball Z and Rigor from Dragon Ball New Age look a lot more like Kanba than Son Goku.
Raditz?!

Since when does Raditz have a bang hanging over his forehead? :roll:
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Post by Kenneth La Torre » Sun Apr 14, 2019 1:26 am

Since the heroes series treats ssj4 as an equivalent of ssb to the xeno heroes, i wonder if ssj4 can be mixed with god ki or UI. A UI ssj4 would look dope. Definitely dont see blue and god on the xenos anytime.

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Post by Dark_Tzitzimine » Sun Apr 14, 2019 2:10 am

Personally I don't think the Xenos will get God forms unless the normal versions get SSJ4 in exchange (in hindsight, Vegito getting SSJ4 should've been a sign of Gogeta Blue's coming), if only because giving them God forms would make SSJ4 redundant, and that in turn would impact negatively on SSJ4 marketability, and we all know that Toei/Bandai would never make anything that would hurt their profits.

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Post by sunsetshimmer » Sun Apr 14, 2019 6:53 am

Rakurai wrote: Sat Apr 13, 2019 10:19 pm When we see XGogeta at the end, he has the orange vest pads instead of yellow... as well as orange eyeliner instead of red. :crazy: Now I like the orange more than the yellow in general but c'mon Bandai are we at least not trying to maintain some consistency around here?
The same way Goku Xeno SSJ4 in game has red fur that looks completely different than his original GT version, yet all cutscenes and anime episodes show him to have pink fur.
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Post by Grand Marshal 1 » Sun Apr 14, 2019 3:03 pm

sunsetshimmer wrote: Sun Apr 14, 2019 6:53 am
Rakurai wrote: Sat Apr 13, 2019 10:19 pm When we see XGogeta at the end, he has the orange vest pads instead of yellow... as well as orange eyeliner instead of red. :crazy: Now I like the orange more than the yellow in general but c'mon Bandai are we at least not trying to maintain some consistency around here?
The same way Goku Xeno SSJ4 in game has red fur that looks completely different than his original GT version, yet all cutscenes and anime episodes show him to have pink fur.
I agree.

Furthermore, I don't know if you had noticed but the user's hair color as a Super Saiyan God, is meant to be the same as the user's fur color while in Super Saiyan 4. Goku had (at least in the BoG movie) magenta-colored hair and his fur in GT was somewhat of a light red, while Vegeta had a deep red fur color and in DBS: Broly his Super Saiyan God kinda had a more redish color than that of Goku's.

Or I am color blind.... :crazy:
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Post by Zamasu55 » Sun Apr 14, 2019 3:23 pm

So, in the manga Jiren still hasn't appeared and ch. 7's based only on Toppo and Dyspo. Great, but why does Toppo not turn God. and destroy them all?

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Zamasu55 wrote: Sun Apr 14, 2019 3:23 pm So, in the manga Jiren still hasn't appeared and ch. 7's based only on Toppo and Dyspo. Great, but why does Toppo not turn God. and destroy them all?
Maybe because he knows it wouldn't work ( at least on Cumber ) so instead of trying, he's just trying to hold them back until Jiren gets back. He may go God in the next chapter though.

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Post by Kanassa » Sun Apr 14, 2019 3:36 pm

Zamasu55 wrote: Sun Apr 14, 2019 3:23 pm So, in the manga Jiren still hasn't appeared and ch. 7's based only on Toppo and Dyspo. Great, but why does Toppo not turn God. and destroy them all?
Because he dislikes the form and doesn't wannt to use it unless absolutely necessary?
When Super apparently shoves Goku down our throats:

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Post by Zamasu55 » Sun Apr 14, 2019 6:46 pm

Kanassa wrote: Sun Apr 14, 2019 3:36 pm
Zamasu55 wrote: Sun Apr 14, 2019 3:23 pm So, in the manga Jiren still hasn't appeared and ch. 7's based only on Toppo and Dyspo. Great, but why does Toppo not turn God. and destroy them all?
Because he dislikes the form and doesn't wannt to use it unless absolutely necessary?
And this happens to be the case.

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Post by Rakurai » Sun Apr 14, 2019 10:19 pm

sunsetshimmer wrote: Sun Apr 14, 2019 6:53 am
The same way Goku Xeno SSJ4 in game has red fur that looks completely different than his original GT version, yet all cutscenes and anime episodes show him to have pink fur.
Umm... that's not the same thing. The CGI trailer (super dope trailer btw, if anybody hasn't watched it I would highly recommend, better than any animation trailer thus far) should reflect the game's graphics engine since they are after all, the same models used in the games. This ain't an animation trailer vs. game comparison.

But I will say, orange-padded vest with black pants Gogeta looks absolutely fly as fuck. Yellow pads are bleh.
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Post by Rakurai » Sun Apr 14, 2019 10:23 pm

Dragotaker wrote: Thu Apr 11, 2019 5:32 pm is Omega Shenron from GT dead already??? i know Finn absorbed GT Gogeta while they were fighting each other, was thinking that maybe since he is going to face Xeno Gogeta he could also absorb Omega if he still somewhere to become an even bigger monstrosity, he wouldn't power up much more considering how weak me must be compared to the one Demigra brought back but still, i just want something more than Gogeta single handedly saving the day again with no effort, this Finn thing should be able to hold back more than just one mission.
Late response but basically, we don't know yet. Well, at least in the arcade we don't know what happened to him after clearing the mission with him and Fin. I haven't read the latest manga chapter so Idk what happens to him in the manga after GT G4 knocks him away. But yeah it'd be just weird if they ignored him for the rest of the arc lol.
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Post by Dragotaker » Sun Apr 14, 2019 11:16 pm

Rakurai wrote: Sun Apr 14, 2019 10:23 pm
Dragotaker wrote: Thu Apr 11, 2019 5:32 pm is Omega Shenron from GT dead already??? i know Finn absorbed GT Gogeta while they were fighting each other, was thinking that maybe since he is going to face Xeno Gogeta he could also absorb Omega if he still somewhere to become an even bigger monstrosity, he wouldn't power up much more considering how weak me must be compared to the one Demigra brought back but still, i just want something more than Gogeta single handedly saving the day again with no effort, this Finn thing should be able to hold back more than just one mission.
Late response but basically, we don't know yet. Well, at least in the arcade we don't know what happened to him after clearing the mission with him and Fin. I haven't read the latest manga chapter so Idk what happens to him in the manga after GT G4 knocks him away. But yeah it'd be just weird if they ignored him for the rest of the arc lol.
Funny you mention ''ignored'' because he just had some spotlight as close as a couple of missions ago, which i think means he won't have said spotlight again so soon, not to mention he still the GT timeline one which means he is really weak compared to their Xeno form, that's why i thought Fin should absorb and stack him together with Gogeta, don't know if it would make sense but damm it i want to see it now.

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Post by Melkaniator » Mon Apr 15, 2019 12:16 am

Dark_Tzitzimine wrote: Fri Apr 12, 2019 3:53 pm Interestingly, World Mission outright confirms that Goku Xeno and Vegeta Xeno come from GT's timeline

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMHMMQkhX7Q
Goku and Vegeta had their Z attires, Goku has Z body, Vegeta has Z hair..."GT timeline confirmed" indeed.

They went through some of the GT events, doesn't mean they're from GT though.
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Post by Rakurai » Mon Apr 15, 2019 12:39 am

Dragotaker wrote: Sun Apr 14, 2019 11:16 pm Funny you mention ''ignored'' because he just had some spotlight as close as a couple of missions ago, which i think means he won't have said spotlight again so soon, not to mention he still the GT timeline one which means he is really weak compared to their Xeno form, that's why i thought Fin should absorb and stack him together with Gogeta, don't know if it would make sense but damm it i want to see it now.
Nothing a little Mechikabura or Demigra magic can't fix. Just give him some demon energy and he can power up further and become relevant again.
Melkaniator wrote: Mon Apr 15, 2019 12:16 am Goku and Vegeta had their Z attires, Goku has Z body, Vegeta has Z hair..."GT timeline confirmed" indeed.

They went through some of the GT events, doesn't mean they're from GT though.
They may not be straight incarnations of their GT anime counterparts but it's clear that they are based off of that timeline and the old Z movies, as opposed to modern DB involving the multiverse, Hakaishins, god ki, and all that BoG-pre-EoZ jazz.
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Post by Grand Marshal 1 » Mon Apr 15, 2019 2:59 am

Rakurai wrote: Mon Apr 15, 2019 12:39 am
Dragotaker wrote: Sun Apr 14, 2019 11:16 pm Funny you mention ''ignored'' because he just had some spotlight as close as a couple of missions ago, which i think means he won't have said spotlight again so soon, not to mention he still the GT timeline one which means he is really weak compared to their Xeno form, that's why i thought Fin should absorb and stack him together with Gogeta, don't know if it would make sense but damm it i want to see it now.
Nothing a little Mechikabura or Demigra magic can't fix. Just give him some demon energy and he can power up further and become relevant again.
Melkaniator wrote: Mon Apr 15, 2019 12:16 am Goku and Vegeta had their Z attires, Goku has Z body, Vegeta has Z hair..."GT timeline confirmed" indeed.

They went through some of the GT events, doesn't mean they're from GT though.
They may not be straight incarnations of their GT anime counterparts but it's clear that they are based off of that timeline and the old Z movies, as opposed to modern DB involving the multiverse, Hakaishins, god ki, and all that BoG-pre-EoZ jazz.
However, they did go through a specific "Sueer" event, didn't they? When did Xeno Goku transform into a Super Saiyan God? After he experience his "GT" events? Did they actually go through BoG much later on?

Actually, did we ever get to know who faced Xeno Goku as a Super Saiyan God?
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Post by mahakaishin1991 » Mon Apr 15, 2019 5:49 am

Melkaniator wrote: Sun Apr 14, 2019 12:17 am
mahakaishin1991 wrote: Tue Mar 26, 2019 9:53 am
Melkaniator wrote: Tue Mar 26, 2019 8:28 am
SS3 Goku color-swap with eyebrows, it's like he was from a "create your own character mode".
I massively disagree with this. Dude looks nothing like Goku.

You could claim any super saiyan 3 is a goku remodel since the hair is the least unique between users of the form.
It's SS3 Goku's hair, but black.

And no, that "claim" issue is not something I would do, since...

#1) SS3 is a Saiya-jin transformation, Cumber's is his base form.

#2) Even SS3 Trunks, and Gohan (the one that should be the exact copy) don't look like exactly like Goku, unlike Cumber.
Steven Bloodriver wrote: Tue Mar 26, 2019 1:24 pm Son Goku bears almost no resemblance to the likes of Kanba.
Yeah, I mean... He has eyebrows, lol, totally different.
Steven Bloodriver wrote: Tue Mar 26, 2019 1:24 pm While, Raditz from Dragon Ball Z and Rigor from Dragon Ball New Age look a lot more like Kanba than Son Goku.
Raditz?!

Since when does Raditz have a bang hanging over his forehead? :roll:
Oh no, well I guess that Nappa is a copy of Freeza cause they both bald lolololol


thats your logic. Cumber has nothing in common with goku, and his hair isnt spiked correctly to look like SS3 Goku but black.

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Post by ankokudaishogun » Mon Apr 15, 2019 3:22 pm

Grand Marshal 1 wrote: Mon Apr 15, 2019 2:59 am However, they did go through a specific "Sueer" event, didn't they?
That happened in a 3DS game, not in this one

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Post by Dark_Tzitzimine » Mon Apr 15, 2019 3:44 pm

If anything Cumber is just a sort of a mix different saiyans designs: long black mane of hair like Raditz, scar on his cheek like Bardock, body build similar to Broly's.

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