The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

[MajinVegetaPD]

Bojack and crew VS Movie 8 Broly.

Even if it were one-on-one, Bojack isn't just most likely at least a little stronger than Broli, but he's definitely smarter and more skilled too. Broli might have a minor defense advantage because of how much of a friggin' tank he is in his LSS state, but I'm sure Bojack would be able to overcome it. Add in the backup from the rest of his crew (especially with their constricting and power-lowering energy strings technique), and their victory is essentially 100% assured.

Doesn't Broly keep getting stronger though? Would Bojack finish off Broly fast enough before Broly surpassed him in strength?

[Kaboom]

Doesn't Broly keep getting stronger though? Would Bojack finish off Broly fast enough before Broly surpassed him in strength?

His maximum strength grows gradually over time, sure. But not drastically in a short amount of time during a single battle, like many fans assume it does (and FUNimation's translation of his infamous line in Movie 8 didn't help). He's not going to start out a battle a lot weaker than his opponent and just miraculously grow stronger than them during their fight.

[RandomGuy96]

Doesn't Broly keep getting stronger though?

No.

[Eternal Super Saiyan]

What does Vegetto being or not being BPxBP have to do with Vegetto failing to realize his own power? Maybe once you fuse you don't instantly realize your power, who cares? It's completely irrelevant.

How is it irrelevant? It makes Vegetto look stupid. If his battle power is BPxBP, his base form would be much, much stronger than Boo, even at his 50%. Yet Vegetto decided that using Super Saiyan was the best way to kick his ass & humiliate him to the point that he would try to absorb him.

Um, try 0.05% - He'd still be stronger than Super Buuhan.

Considering the Manga never shown Base Vegetto, can we assume this is because Vegetto thought it was necessary to transform in order to defeat him? Base Vegetto was only Anime if I recall, which means it's filler. Yet another reason I'm not believing "Base times Base" thing. Someone who on my list is already 100,000x stronger wouldn't need to undergo any transformation of any sort. His pinky alone has more power to do the job...

[KentalSSJ6]

Considering the page number... Mr. Satan in his prime VS Videl pre-Gohan training.

[RandomGuy96]

Considering the page number... Mr. Satan in his prime VS Videl pre-Gohan training.

Does Satan get weapons?

[KentalSSJ6]

Considering the page number... Mr. Satan in his prime VS Videl pre-Gohan training.

Does Satan get weapons?

Pure hand to hand.

[mysticboy]

Considering the page number... Mr. Satan in his prime VS Videl pre-Gohan training.

Mr. Satan.

[hleV]

Someone who on my list is already 100,000x stronger wouldn't need to undergo any transformation of any sort.

Unless... well, you don't know you're 100,000x or whatever stronger, which is what happened to Vegetto. Goku was told to go SS after fusing if he wants. Vegetto went SS, wrecked Boo and finally admitted he didn't think at first he was so strong. Manga in no way whatsoever conflicts with Vegetto being as amazing as Goku's BP x Vegeta's. It may just seem off because it's an absolute and not-so-necessary overkill (which I find pretty awesome TBH, an "endgame" Dragon Ball character), but that's not a reason to dismiss or question a guidebook's statement.

[KentalSSJ6]

Didn't Kaboom say take the Vegetto business somewhere else?

[Eternal Super Saiyan]

Bojack VS. Dabura

Buu Saga Piccolo VS. 50% Perfect Cell (Pre-SPC)

Ya, that Vegetto topic is a never ending revolving discussion so I guess it's a good time to stop

[KentalSSJ6]

Bojack VS. Dabura

Buu Saga Piccolo VS. 50% Perfect Cell (Pre-SPC)

Ya, that Vegetto topic is a never ending revolving discussion so I guess it's a good time to stop

I'd say Bojack if he can avoid Dabra's spit.

Not really sure.

[RandomGuy96]

Bojack VS. Dabura

Buu Saga Piccolo VS. 50% Perfect Cell (Pre-SPC)

Ya, that Vegetto topic is a never ending revolving discussion so I guess it's a good time to stop

Dabra stomps.

Cell absolutely murders here. Goku, at about half his power, completely blew everyone else out of the water, and was heavily implied as being superior to Piccolo. Cell had a big advantage on Goku in his suppressed state, and after he beat Goku, did two more big power ups to fight Gohan. This is all before the whole 'Super Perfect' business. I also think that the Cell Juniors, one of which easily beating Piccolo, are equal to one third of Perfect Cell's strength.

[Kaboom]

Bojack VS. Dabura

Dabra's going to give "base" Bojack one helluva fight and possibly beat him, especially thanks to his magic skills. But his only slim hope of beating bulked-up Bojack is to land a lucky shot with his petrifying spit.

Buu Saga Piccolo VS. 50% Perfect Cell (Pre-SPC)

Assuming you mean 50% of Cell's "full power" which he didn't premiere until fighting SS2 Gohan... Then that coincidentally puts him at right around the same level of power I grant Kaioshin, so Piccolo's outclassed and can't win.

[rereboy]

Goku, at about half his power, completely blew everyone else out of the water, and was heavily implied as being superior to Piccolo.

That was before Piccolo went into the ROSAT. Also, he probably improved during those 7 years until the Buu saga, even if not much.

[Eternal Super Saiyan]

During the Cell Games I can imagine Piccolo (post ROSAT) being around Imperfect Cell (2nd form).

And 7 years is quite a gap for improvement. He probably wasn't whole lot weaker than Supreme Kai, maybe only by a fraction.
He's likely stronger than SSJ Goten or SSJ Trunks when they are not fused together.

I also don't agree that SSJ Goten was close to SSJ Gohan, I find it possible that since Gohan wanted Goten to train with him, maybe he was just lowering his power level for Goten. We can't use them sparring as any sort of an example for power comparison really.

[RandomGuy96]

Goku, at about half his power, completely blew everyone else out of the water, and was heavily implied as being superior to Piccolo.

That was before Piccolo went into the ROSAT. Also, he probably improved during those 7 years until the Buu saga, even if not much.

He was still implied to be superior to Piccolo at that level after the ROSAT trip.

And 7 years is quite a gap for improvement. He probably wasn't whole lot weaker than Supreme Kai, maybe only by a fraction.
He's likely stronger than SSJ Goten or SSJ Trunks when they are not fused together.

He outright states that Kaioshin is worlds above him.

I also don't agree that SSJ Goten was close to SSJ Gohan, I find it possible that since Gohan wanted Goten to train with him, maybe he was just lowering his power level for Goten. We can't use them sparring as any sort of an example for power comparison really.

That's never suggested anywhere, and really doesn't match either this scene or Vegeta's spar with Trunks.

[Doctor.]

100% Freeza vs Boo arc Vegeta (base)

It had to be done.

[RandomGuy96]

100% Freeza vs Boo arc Vegeta (base)

It had to be done.

Freeza pounds Vegeta into the ground.

[rereboy]

He was still implied to be superior to Piccolo at that level after the ROSAT trip.

Don't remember any of that.